How do I really feel about the left? (Page 8): Nice try troll. We have the most expensive higher education because of government loans and over inflated salaries. What incentive do...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Nice try troll. We have the most expensive higher education because of government loans and over inflated salaries. What incentive do colleges have to compete on price when students can easily obtain student loans that may or may not be paid back? Have you ever looked at what administrators pull down at these bastions of higher learning?

johnmont wrote:

That depends on where you work and who you work for.There are some places where you can give great value and get nowhere.Why do we have the most expensive higher education in the world?To keep the lower classes out?

Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia

teabag09 wrote:

You probably won't get a response from Nicky other than you're stupid. Mike

Thanks teabag, and my thanks to Bahmer, Boofhead, and JFlorio for their nice comments.

Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia

boofhead wrote:

And from me; well done.

I might add that in the good column you could remove a lot of it by simply stating that conservatives support the Republic. And in the bad column, point out that the Founders abhored the idea of a Democracy, which is the goal of all Liberals because it allows mob rule.

My intention was to lay out a more complete list of the good and bad as a reference to all of the plusses and minuses we face today. What I perceive is attempts to erode our system one piece at a time, so we need to be on guard to reinforce each of the good foundations of our Republic.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

JFlorio wrote:

I have and do. I own a small business. I notice you don't have an answer. What system would you prefer? You're like a professional whiner or something. Bet your a blast at a party.

All I will say to that is how much of your business is with Bankers & Big Money

How much is it from the average people on the street?

I was self employed for over 50 years. Most of my work was for rental property owners & dealing with their tenants.
The bottom line was I had to do as much as the tenants wanted while charging what the owners were willing to pay.

Let me say that I was good at what I did.
My view was that it was more important to every ones well being if the tenants could afford the cost needed to give them what the wanted.

I have lived with the ideal that it is better for most if the general public has extra money rather than big bankers.

So I say who spends there money on what you have to offer.

The system we have to day is doing a great job for those with Big Money & not near the job that should be done for the man on the street.

Now just who is it that puts their money in you cash drawer.

GmanTerry

johnmont wrote:

That depends on where you work and who you work for.There are some places where you can give great value and get nowhere.Why do we have the most expensive higher education in the world?To keep the lower classes out?

Actually that reason is quite simple. It's another example of 'Unintended Consequences'. When I went to school, fifty five years ago, my generation was able to work our way through school. The costs were reasonable. In 1958 the government became involved. They started the program to help students get degrees in Engineering, Science and Medicine. It was later expanded to cover everything. The idea was to help turn out better graduates by loaning the tuition money instead of the students having to work, study and go to school. The problem turned out to be the Universities. When they figured out that students would shoulder higher costs for an education, the schools started building and expanding. This raised the costs. Also adding to the increased cost was expanding the campus to support the larger body of students. The idea that everyone has to attend and the subsequent expansion, raised the cost of education. This continues to this very day. So a government program initially intended to help students attend universities became the cash cow for the schools and it is still expanding today. As Pogo famously said, "We have met the enemy and he is us".

Semper Fi

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

All kinds of people. Mostly middle class with a smattering of wealthy. Who is supporting the big bankers or advocating for them on this site?
Most don't know that those two idiots Dodd and Frank who were to curb big bank expansion quietly did the opposite and killed small family banks. I still don't understand what you are always upset about. People with money have power and life's not fair? Well no shit Sherlock. You still didn't give your idea of a solution. Just who and what is the man on the street and who determines his value?

Floyd Brown wrote:

All I will say to that is how much of your busines... (show quote)

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

"How do I really feel about the left?"

As if the left cares what a hater thinks of them. I just laugh. Have your fun....and as a former vice president once told a senator...'go....yourself'. And that's how I really feel about the right.

Thanky, thanky very much.

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

working class stiff wrote:

"How do I really feel about the left?"

As if the left cares what a hater thinks of them. I just laugh. Have your fun....and as a former vice president once told a senator...'go....yourself'. And that's how I really feel about the right.

Thanky, thanky very much.

Well, you're entitled to your piss ant, no count opinion. I don't hate, just like antagonizing people who can't accept reality. You must be one.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

2wheeljunkie wrote:

Well, you're entitled to your piss ant, no count opinion. I don't hate, just like antagonizing people who can't accept reality. You must be one.

As are you....entitled to your own piss ant , no count opinion. And you're right, I gladly don't accept your reality. That you claim not to hate is betrayed by your opening post. Up is down, left is right in your world as far as I can see. See you in the funny papers.

johnmont

Nickolai wrote:

Those are the middle class whos kids have to work 15 times longer to pay off their student loans than the baby boomers, the average working stiffs wows wages have been flat since 1973. The millions who lost their homes to foreclosure ect

There was a,time when you could actually work your way through collage on the minimum wage if you stayed at home .Now it costs two or three times the minimum wage per year.

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

working class stiff wrote:

As are you....entitled to your own piss ant , no count opinion. And you're right, I gladly don't accept your reality. That you claim not to hate is betrayed by your opening post. Up is down, left is right in your world as far as I can see. See you in the funny papers.

A little humor escapes you, too bad. After 8 yrs of Obama, and Hillary's loss, you people are acting like pathetic, spoiled children. Here's the latest funnies, enjoy.

debeda

GmanTerry wrote:

Actually that reason is quite simple. It's another... (show quote)

Very true!! So many times government programs tend to increase costs for those that must pay.

kankune Loc: Iowa

Manning345 wrote:

MALARKEY. I saw your posts that you caged from th... (show quote)

Awesome post Manning. You laid it out prefectly!

teabag09

That's because the Govt. got involved with the finances. Govt. student loans. Do some research and then put input into the conversation. Mike

johnmont wrote:

There was a,time when you could actually work your way through collage on the minimum wage if you stayed at home .Now it costs two or three times the minimum wage per year.

Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia

kankune wrote:

Awesome post Manning. You laid it out prefectly!

Thank you, kankune. I may have to stooge around for a few days to create so more ammunition, or else I just might replay some of the same stuff, figuring that the Lefties didn't read it in the first place.