Teaparty scandal Brewing (Page 2): Bo you and I do not see eye to eye many topics but surely this web site was set up to have meaningful dialog on current political topics. Insulting...

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

BoJester wrote:

Speaking of namecalling shitferbrains, you and your ilk cannot comment without namecalling.
The source for this post is the DailyCaller, a rightwing site, owned by Tucker Carlson.
Now learn from your mistakes, and quit being the poster child for conservtiveteaparty stupidity

Bo you and I do not see eye to eye many topics but surely this web site was set up to have meaningful dialog on current political topics. Insulting and name calling is just a distraction and deterrent to finding resolution to our most pressing problems.

Let's try this again.

Do you believe that governmental corruption is a problem that should be addressed?

moonbeam Loc: hiding

This is the wrong state to choose when speaking of the KKK. I've never heard of even a chapter here in Texas. No, you are speaking about the lower southern states. Texas has always been the less of the prejudiced states BECAUSE of its influx of differing groups besides the Mexicans, there are the Germans, Alsace, Chexks, and Poles. I do believe we would (although I myself am Jewish and my grandparents were brilliant in choosing San Antonio as a place to open a fur company as they were furriers by trade)! San Antonio, has always been known as a crossroads town. So please let's keep that group out of Texas and even associated with it. Live Love from the great country of Texas!

Retired669 wrote:

I like the way you answer! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

SchoonerPete

BoJester wrote:

Speaking of namecalling shitferbrains, you and your ilk cannot comment without namecalling.
The source for this post is the DailyCaller, a rightwing site, owned by Tucker Carlson.
Now learn from your mistakes, and quit being the poster child for conservtiveteaparty stupidity

Stupidity??? You're the poster child for that, pal!

Donmac Loc: Lincoln, RI

Name the corruption. I have only seen real people with concern for the direction of this country by the clearly lawless w/h. Sorry!!! Your nonsense falls on deaf ears.

BoJester

Perhaps you should read what you post before you cut and paste.

You may astound yourself.

SchoonerPete wrote:

Stupidity??? You're the poster child for that, pal!

BoJester

The problem is defining what is real corruption, and what is political ideology. That fact alone clouds the issue because partisans will always support their views.

Constitutional libertarian wrote:

Bo you and I do not see eye to eye many topics but surely this web site was set up to have meaningful dialog on current political topics. Insulting and name calling is just a distraction and deterrent to finding resolution to our most pressing problems.

Let's try this again.

Do you believe that governmental corruption is a problem that should be addressed?

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

BoJester wrote:

The problem is defining what is real corruption, and what is political ideology. That fact alone clouds the issue because partisans will always support their views.

Now, that's an interesting admission from a liberal - corruption is not a function of right or wrong, it's all relative. A clearer sign of the absence of values made clear.

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

BoJester wrote:

The problem is defining what is real corruption, and what is political ideology. That fact alone clouds the issue because partisans will always support their views.

Agreed,

I purposefully phrased my question as open ended as I could giving you the opportunity to see it as non partisan as possible.

From your perspective and political ideology what would you classify as corrupt and how would you approach correcting it?

emarine

Kevyn wrote:

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Wow Kevin... that was direct and to the point :lol:

BoJester

All non-profits that are tax exempt and push partisan political views.
Citizens United position that corporations are people, but not prosecutable
Tax exempt status for groups such as the NFL, NHL
Unequal access to the media
Tax exemption for charities and churches, mosques, temples, lodges
Lobbies that provide money and perks to politicians
The military-industrial complex that uses the cost-plus basis for government contracts

To your point, there is much corruption or possible corruption in any of the above examples.

But each entity is of vital importance to certain special interests.

Constitutional libertarian wrote:

Agreed,

I purposefully phrased my question as open ended as I could giving you the opportunity to see it as non partisan as possible.

From your perspective and political ideology what would you classify as corrupt and how would you approach correcting it?

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

Dave wrote:

Now, that's an interesting admission from a liberal - corruption is not a function of right or wrong, it's all relative. A clearer sign of the absence of values made clear.

Now now I am not attacking anyone with the direction of my dialog. Nor am I trying to back him into a hypocritical corner like have done to many on here in the past.

I am suggesting that even among the most extreme ideologically opposed people we can find common problems that we can all agree on. And have a discussion about them in a rational non confrontational manner.

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

BoJester wrote:

All non-profits that are tax exempt and push parti... (show quote)

Again agreed,

We are all in or are categorized as being in any number of different special interest groups.

And I see there is a common theme in your ideas of what constitutes corruption.

That different groups of people, organizations or special interest groups get special treatment. Now I wish very hard not to put words in your mouth. But would it be safe to say that you believe that everyone should be equal with no preferential treatment. An example of which you gave being taxation, that no one should be above paying their fair share of taxes.

What legislation would you be in favor of that would help ensure that no one is above paying taxes. Remember the Supreme Court decided the ACA is a tax.

BoJester

Again, what taxes are you specifically asking about?

Most purchases are subject ot sales tax, so almost all consumers pay that.

Property taxes, license taxes, fuel taxes, road use tolls and permits can be considered taxes and most all people, citizens or not pay some if not all of those taxes.

So is it the income tax, or payroll taxes that you are alluding to? And who is not paying their "fair share"

Constitutional libertarian wrote:

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Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

BoJester wrote:

Again, what taxes are you specifically asking about?

Most purchases are subject ot sales tax, so almost all consumers pay that.

Property taxes, license taxes, fuel taxes, road use tolls and permits can be considered taxes and most all people, citizens or not pay some if not all of those taxes.

So is it the income tax, or payroll taxes that you are alluding to? And who is not paying their "fair share"

I think we can agree that non tax status on professional sports is outrageous and they should be taxed accordingly as a business or corporation.

You also named quite a few others as well particularly non profits. You said politically ideological groups, charities, community organizations like lodges and all religious affiliated groups, and we should add labor unions to your list since they are classified as non-for-profit 501(c)3's as well.

Should we address as a nation if these types of organizations should be taxed the same as any other for profit companies?

Oh I forgot a few like the performing arts non profits, hospitals and universities.

73STNGLKABEE

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