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Jan 15, 2018 17:35:45   #
OldGlory1951 Loc: Burien, Washington
 
What Would A 21st Century U.S. Civil War Look Like?

The U.S. Civil War was an ugly time in American history. The death toll of that war and the animosity which epitomized the war in many peoples’ minds have left a lasting impact on American culture and society. In fact, the Civil War was so ugly that, I think it is safe to say, no person who has studied the details of the war would want another one.

Still, many people seem to have this idea on their minds, whether we are talking about white supremacists or antifa protesters. I suspect that both of these groups have idealized ideas about what that kind of war would be like, so let’s think about what a 21st Century U.S. Civil War would be like.

Notably different this time around would be who is fighting who. In the Civil War, the fight was between large regions of the country (North versus South), but that’s less likely to be the case this time around. E.M. Cadwaladr has this to say (hat tip to here for the source):

The lines of demarcation now are only somewhat regional, and tend to correspond to differences between urban and rural populations, as well as differences of race and class. A second American Civil War would be much more similar to the Spanish Civil War, with the leftists dominating the cities and conservatives controlling the countryside. Conflicts of this nature, with enemies mixed geographically, are a formula for spontaneous mass bloodletting. India-Pakistan during the 1947 partition comes to mind as another modern example. Given an absence of legitimate government and the friction of proximity, ordinary people can be moved to settle grievances by killing one another without the need for governments to egg them on.

If you doubt that this type of urban/rural split is happening, simply look at a county-by-county voting map for the last several Presidential elections. Even in “blue” states (states in which the overall vote went for the Democratic candidate), the concentration of blue counties was nearly always in urban areas. In other words, rural counties of blue states still went red (Republican).

Cadwaladr also points out that our society is a much more economically interdependent society than during the time period of the U.S. Civil War. At the time of the Civil War, people often owned and operated small farms. Even if their primary occupation was not as a farmer, it was very common for people to grow their own food and raise their own livestock. That’s not the case now. Relatively speaking, very few people produce their own food, especially in urban areas, and people are, thus, dependent on transportation and supply chains which would be disrupted by a modern civil war. In other words, people would not be able to get food and other necessary items. What would this failure of the food system cause people to do? It’s likely to cause an increase in violence in many areas (almost certainly in urban areas).

Frankly, when it comes down to it, a modern civil war could end up being a war of attrition as to who can outlast the other (assuming that the urban areas can secure food supplies). If urban areas cannot secure food, then a siege on urban areas would, in effect, happen because the rural areas would be able to more easily transition back to a self-sufficient life.

So, our recommendation is, if you are the least bit concerned about the possibility of another civil war, that you make sure that your skills in growing food and raising livestock are sharp and already being used and that you consider moving moving to a rural area if you currently live in an urban area. Because, if a civil war happens again, it will be better to be prepared than sorry.
http://www.survivalinstitute.com



It would be Sheer Bloody Hell !!!! worse than the Past. We are having double the Trouble!!!!.The KKK, White Supremacists , the Antifa, etc... need i say more? Yes i was born in the Deep South of Louisiana, but because i am of Mixed Breed, my people back in the days of the awful slavery and deaths,struggled with their lives to survive, just to see another day. Yet these Racist Organizations still want to destroy and relive in the Past. They can't let the Dead Dog!!! Lie. My race is Black, White, Native American, and Cajun, and i am damn Proud. Not a Racist Bone in my Body. Now what do y'all think of what we would be going through today if the Old Civil War came back to haunt us, today.?

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Jan 15, 2018 18:06:49   #
wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia
 
OldGlory1951 wrote:
What Would A 21st Century U.S. Civil War Look Like?

The U.S. Civil War was an ugly time in American history. The death toll of that war and the animosity which epitomized the war in many peoples’ minds have left a lasting impact on American culture and society. In fact, the Civil War was so ugly that, I think it is safe to say, no person who has studied the details of the war would want another one.

Still, many people seem to have this idea on their minds, whether we are talking about white supremacists or antifa protesters. I suspect that both of these groups have idealized ideas about what that kind of war would be like, so let’s think about what a 21st Century U.S. Civil War would be like.

Notably different this time around would be who is fighting who. In the Civil War, the fight was between large regions of the country (North versus South), but that’s less likely to be the case this time around. E.M. Cadwaladr has this to say (hat tip to here for the source):

The lines of demarcation now are only somewhat regional, and tend to correspond to differences between urban and rural populations, as well as differences of race and class. A second American Civil War would be much more similar to the Spanish Civil War, with the leftists dominating the cities and conservatives controlling the countryside. Conflicts of this nature, with enemies mixed geographically, are a formula for spontaneous mass bloodletting. India-Pakistan during the 1947 partition comes to mind as another modern example. Given an absence of legitimate government and the friction of proximity, ordinary people can be moved to settle grievances by killing one another without the need for governments to egg them on.

If you doubt that this type of urban/rural split is happening, simply look at a county-by-county voting map for the last several Presidential elections. Even in “blue” states (states in which the overall vote went for the Democratic candidate), the concentration of blue counties was nearly always in urban areas. In other words, rural counties of blue states still went red (Republican).

Cadwaladr also points out that our society is a much more economically interdependent society than during the time period of the U.S. Civil War. At the time of the Civil War, people often owned and operated small farms. Even if their primary occupation was not as a farmer, it was very common for people to grow their own food and raise their own livestock. That’s not the case now. Relatively speaking, very few people produce their own food, especially in urban areas, and people are, thus, dependent on transportation and supply chains which would be disrupted by a modern civil war. In other words, people would not be able to get food and other necessary items. What would this failure of the food system cause people to do? It’s likely to cause an increase in violence in many areas (almost certainly in urban areas).

Frankly, when it comes down to it, a modern civil war could end up being a war of attrition as to who can outlast the other (assuming that the urban areas can secure food supplies). If urban areas cannot secure food, then a siege on urban areas would, in effect, happen because the rural areas would be able to more easily transition back to a self-sufficient life.

So, our recommendation is, if you are the least bit concerned about the possibility of another civil war, that you make sure that your skills in growing food and raising livestock are sharp and already being used and that you consider moving moving to a rural area if you currently live in an urban area. Because, if a civil war happens again, it will be better to be prepared than sorry.
http://www.survivalinstitute.com



It would be Sheer Bloody Hell !!!! worse than the Past. We are having double the Trouble!!!!.The KKK, White Supremacists , the Antifa, etc... need i say more? Yes i was born in the Deep South of Louisiana, but because i am of Mixed Breed, my people back in the days of the awful slavery and deaths,struggled with their lives to survive, just to see another day. Yet these Racist Organizations still want to destroy and relive in the Past. They can't let the Dead Dog!!! Lie. My race is Black, White, Native American, and Cajun, and i am damn Proud. Not a Racist Bone in my Body. Now what do y'all think of what we would be going through today if the Old Civil War came back to haunt us, today.?
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Sounds pretty accurate , it would certainly be ugly. I was born in Tenn. but spent most of my life in GA. I am a southerner. We don't do hate in any form at my house. Would never want to take a human life. Certainly not a fellow American. I have been setting extras to the side for a couple years now. It's hard to tell how bad it would get or how quick. But we have a inexperienced generation that does nit know how to provide for themselves. I believe panic would be the order of the day.

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Jan 15, 2018 18:12:52   #
OldGlory1951 Loc: Burien, Washington
 
wuzblynd wrote:
Sounds pretty accurate , it would certainly be ugly. I was born in Tenn. but spent most of my life in GA. I am a southerner. We don't do hate in any form at my house. Would never want to take a human life. Certainly not a fellow American. I have been setting extras to the side for a couple years now. It's hard to tell how bad it would get or how quick. But we have a inexperienced generation that does nit know how to provide for themselves. I believe panic would be the order of the day.




Well my Fellow Southerner, i am Proud of you for having a good Heart. God Bless You...

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Jan 15, 2018 19:52:59   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
OldGlory1951 wrote:
Well my Fellow Southerner, i am Proud of you for having a good Heart. God Bless You...


I agree it would be along the urban-rural divide. And it would be bloody as hell with 10s of millions of desperate refugees, not to mention the countless souls who would lose their lives. Those wishing for another civil war forget the jauntiness of the two armies in the first Civil War, thinking it would be great sport to put a licking on the other side, running to join up before the war was over. They had no idea of the meat-grinding that was to come. I think many who wish for another war are thinking of it in the same way.

It is awful to contemplate.

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Jan 15, 2018 20:01:07   #
wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia
 
OldGlory1951 wrote:
Well my Fellow Southerner, i am Proud of you for having a good Heart. God Bless You...





Thank you brother! May God bless you also! As a matter of fact , may He rain blessings on you till you can't stand anymore!! I am very proud of the south, it is something special. Good hearts are produced in a environment of goodness, like, the south!! We still hold the door open for anyone coming in or out of a store, and hardly ever walk past someone without somehow acknowledging them. There are still people who think we still live like the 1960s . colored and white drinking fountains! I get a good laugh out of them. Have family in the Homa lafayette area.

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Jan 15, 2018 20:45:12   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
OldGlory1951 wrote:
Yes i was born in the Deep South of Louisiana, Now what do y'all think of what we would be going through today if the Old Civil War came back to haunt us, today.?


Tell me about it, I was hired by NOPD in 1976 when it was still wild around there...to be honest I can't remember an early AM where i didn't see a blood trail on a sidewalk... And than racism started fading & folks finally started to get along, but it was all slowly torn apart once again with the subversiveness of O'bama's administration and now with the non stop media racist projection it's just as bad as it was back than.

The leftist's are just following the OSF's funded divide n' conquer/purple revolution.

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Jan 21, 2018 15:59:38   #
OldGlory1951 Loc: Burien, Washington
 
11r20 wrote:
Tell me about it, I was hired by NOPD in 1976 when it was still wild around there...to be honest I can't remember an early AM where i didn't see a blood trail on a sidewalk... And than racism started fading & folks finally started to get along, but it was all slowly torn apart once again with the subversiveness of O'bama's administration and now with the non stop media racist projection it's just as bad as it was back than.

The leftist's are just following the OSF's funded divide n' conquer/purple revolution.
Tell me about it, I was hired by NOPD in 1976 when... (show quote)





You sure got that Right!!!! 11r20

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