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Jan 10, 2018 11:23:39   #
S. Maturin
 
Mom8052 wrote:
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Good Democrats, which I am one, believe that one follows the teaching of the Constitution and the Bible to decide what would be best for this country. True, I voted for Obat the first time, also voted for the bushes. All three screwed up our country. They were all swamp creatures in my mind after the fact. Is Trump good for our Country? Well, so far he has done more in the past year than the last 4 combined.


Perhaps too many of us (I used to be one) think that we can vote our preferred candidate into office and sit back and spectate for four or eight years.

That is not how it works.. participation has to go up. We may be expecting too much from the type of person who will do what politicians will for the honor of lording it over the rest of us and by not keeping their wee piggies to the fire, they go *astray* almost every one of them (D),(R), (I)... no matter.. they all- almost all- will eventually go astray.

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Jan 11, 2018 07:21:10   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Perhaps too many of us (I used to be one) think that we can vote our preferred candidate into office and sit back and spectate for four or eight years.

That is not how it works.. participation has to go up. We may be expecting too much from the type of person who will do what politicians will for the honor of lording it over the rest of us and by not keeping their wee piggies to the fire, they go *astray* almost every one of them (D),(R), (I)... no matter.. they all- almost all- will eventually go astray.
Perhaps too many of us (I used to be one) think th... (show quote)


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AGREED, but I do believe that they go *astray* because of the influence that their party either demands on them or the training they receive in order to do the job in the House and Senate. Public voices are needed to keep them on the right and promised path. Not what the party wants. My Senators don't much like me because I ask them to do what is right, but they repeat what you hear on TV. My Representative that is now running for Governor knew me personally and kept me inform at to how he was doing on the subjects I was concerned about. Involvement is the the key, no matter whom it is.

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Jan 11, 2018 07:41:35   #
Richard Rowland
 
Sassy Lass wrote:
I think he has totally outfoxed the buffoons on the left, and is such a relief from the silver-tongued commie snake Obammy. You leftists don't know which way to turn next (Russia collusion, obstruction of justice, now mentally unfit), and none of it is sticking. In the meantime, Nunes and others are inexorably moving forward with the REAL story -- DNC collusion with the Russians, a totally unlawful spying on an incoming administration, based on a fake dossier, and now an investigation into Uranium One and RICO on the Clinton Foundation. Put your boots on, Kevyn, you're party is just about over,
I think he has totally outfoxed the buffoons on th... (show quote)


I like the way you think, Sassy.

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Jan 11, 2018 09:42:59   #
S. Maturin
 
Mom8052 wrote:
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AGREED, but I do believe that they go *astray* because of the influence that their party either demands on them or the training they receive in order to do the job in the House and Senate. Public voices are needed to keep them on the right and promised path. Not what the party wants. My Senators don't much like me because I ask them to do what is right, but they repeat what you hear on TV. My Representative that is now running for Governor knew me personally and kept me inform at to how he was doing on the subjects I was concerned about. Involvement is the the key, no matter whom it is.
~~~~~~~~~~~ br AGREED, but I do believe that they ... (show quote)


You serve as an excellent example for those who would take citizenship seriously.

Too many voters think that all citizenship requires is a vote every four or two years and then complaining on sites like this 24/7.

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Jan 11, 2018 12:38:18   #
Craig AZ Loc: Superior, AZ
 
Mom8052 wrote:
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AGREED, but I do believe that they go *astray* because of the influence that their party either demands on them or the training they receive in order to do the job in the House and Senate. Public voices are needed to keep them on the right and promised path. Not what the party wants. My Senators don't much like me because I ask them to do what is right, but they repeat what you hear on TV. My Representative that is now running for Governor knew me personally and kept me inform at to how he was doing on the subjects I was concerned about. Involvement is the the key, no matter whom it is.
~~~~~~~~~~~ br AGREED, but I do believe that they ... (show quote)




Hell participation is one thing, but you have representation that is worth a shit. I was even Medevac'd from Vietnam with my Senator and even liked him then I did meet him, but everything he did said and was proved to me what he really was and that is what I always thought he was a traitor and with every move, thought and action proved it to me. I've written to them but neither one of them would I expect much help from, however I am participating greatly for the removal of both of my senators.

Yeah you guessed it I'm in AZ and my sen. are McCain and Flake I've been campaigning for Kelli Ward and Sheriff Joe, for we know we need good leadership all looking for the basic good of all and weeding out the bad, like McCain I've watched him and Hillary their entire time as politicians and have come to only one conclusion that there could be, that they were the worst of the lot as far as being for the people. It doesn't mater if you are a Dem, Rep or like me a Ind.. Trump threw his hat into the ring as a ind. and the Reps kind of adopted him not the other way around. The only thing is that they have to be true to their convictions and so far the only one I can tell is, is Trump, the only thing wrong is his adoptive family has no intension on backing him, because half their group in the wrong as it is being left up to a narrow few that haven't been corrupted yet to weed out the rest from the crimes they have committed already against the rest of us and the world, in the name of whomever they are working for.

I do agree that power corrupts and that absolute power corrupts absolutely and Obama was a perfect example of that very thing happening, but Trump he has had power all his life and still hasn't lost his way of god, the illusion of what the country was before and could be again, however he knows that first he has to clear the criminals out that have been miss using their power and a good trial and cleansing is the only way to do it. Trump is trying to press the reset button on our government and that is exactly what we need in our government, our constitution and our free will.

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Jan 12, 2018 08:49:17   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
Craig AZ wrote:
Hell participation is one thing, but you have representation that is worth a shit. I was even Medevac'd from Vietnam with my Senator and even liked him then I did meet him, but everything he did said and was proved to me what he really was and that is what I always thought he was a traitor and with every move, thought and action proved it to me. I've written to them but neither one of them would I expect much help from, however I am participating greatly for the removal of both of my senators.

Yeah you guessed it I'm in AZ and my sen. are McCain and Flake I've been campaigning for Kelli Ward and Sheriff Joe, for we know we need good leadership all looking for the basic good of all and weeding out the bad, like McCain I've watched him and Hillary their entire time as politicians and have come to only one conclusion that there could be, that they were the worst of the lot as far as being for the people. It doesn't mater if you are a Dem, Rep or like me a Ind.. Trump threw his hat into the ring as a ind. and the Reps kind of adopted him not the other way around. The only thing is that they have to be true to their convictions and so far the only one I can tell is, is Trump, the only thing wrong is his adoptive family has no intension on backing him, because half their group in the wrong as it is being left up to a narrow few that haven't been corrupted yet to weed out the rest from the crimes they have committed already against the rest of us and the world, in the name of whomever they are working for.

I do agree that power corrupts and that absolute power corrupts absolutely and Obama was a perfect example of that very thing happening, but Trump he has had power all his life and still hasn't lost his way of god, the illusion of what the country was before and could be again, however he knows that first he has to clear the criminals out that have been miss using their power and a good trial and cleansing is the only way to do it. Trump is trying to press the reset button on our government and that is exactly what we need in our government, our constitution and our free will.
Hell participation is one thing, but you have repr... (show quote)


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Reset button doesn't work! You have to have more than a President that cares about the American, you have to have the backing of the People placed into office by the people of their state....which should be closely watched to make sure that the will of the people is represented.

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Jan 12, 2018 14:01:25   #
Craig AZ Loc: Superior, AZ
 
Mom8052 wrote:
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Reset button doesn't work! You have to have more than a President that cares about the American, you have to have the backing of the People placed into office by the people of their state....which should be closely watched to make sure that the will of the people is represented.



Course it helps if the people you put into office don't sit back and throw tantrums, just because of someone else you voted for got in, so they refuse to play nice with, just because he took away some of their lollipops.

Let's faces it you have to have voted in people that WILL do what you want them to, in their next vote and see to it they won't be bought or can't be threatened or blackmailed into doing something else.

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Jan 12, 2018 15:01:21   #
emarine
 
11r20 wrote:
((laugh)) suffering from class envy?




Na... it's just ironic when someone claims he is the champion of the working class & craps on a gold throne... watch out now before you purchase a bridge from him too... now I'm laughing also...

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Jan 12, 2018 15:31:04   #
emarine
 
Nickolai wrote:
That's not true Christians Muslims and Jews lived side by side in peace from the end of the Christian Crusades in 1300 during the Ottoman Empire until the Balfour Declaration in 1917 when the zionst got Britain to declare Palestine a national homeland for Jews even thought 750,000 Palestinians already occupied the land that contained only 10,000 Jews by the mid 1920's Zionists were immigrating to Palestine and reiging terror down on small villages clearing out the people. David Ben Gurion Zionist terrorist and the first Prime Minister of Israel said in 1937 " the Palestinians must go" before Israel we had no enemies in the mid east
That's not true Christians Muslims and Jews lived... (show quote)




Niki buddy... you are incorrect in your time line & numbers... however there were more Arabs than Jews in the early 20's mostly all farmers...the real problems started in 28 with the inception of the Muslim Brotherhood & the mass migration of Arabs from the surrounding Arab country's wanting to push Jews off the improved farm land purchased from the King of Jorden's family ... the original Jews were pacifists ... it was in influx of German Jews in 33 who started fighting back making Israel a state...

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Jan 12, 2018 16:35:17   #
Craig AZ Loc: Superior, AZ
 
emarine wrote:
Na... it's just ironic when someone claims he is the champion of the working class & craps on a gold throne... watch out now before you purchase a bridge from him too... now I'm laughing also...



So far he hasn't done a damn thing that would call for all that kind of thinking and disrespect. Trump has accomplished nearly 95% of the campaign promises that he made, which is a feat that no other president can say.

1.) He has had a very impressive run so far and surpassed every president since Ike in accomplishments and serving the people, the constitution and the nation. Stopping trillions from being sucked out of our treasury, into personal accounts as payoffs, bribes and kick backs.

2.) I saw in the breaking news where Trump has had more then 81 accomplishments so far, so there is way to many for me to write out here and if he didn't have to drag everything out of the DNC he would have done much more.

3.) He is the first president to make his war an all out effort on World Wide Organized Crime and Terrorism.
{ It's a big job but I consider it to be a World War, that they started and we have to win. }

We all should watch close because we're making history these next few days, weeks, months or years and because of Trump we are being able to see it all and make up our own minds, course not right away, for there will be a closed door grand jury, with a senate oversight committee and DOJ, all very closed in, but the best chance we have to ever seeing that truth would be Trump, if he stays as open as he has been this last year, these records won't become another Kennedy file.
Trump is much more open and you not waiting 5-20 years before the records are released, we wants all to know what happened before the next generation comes into power and that only comes from a government that goes through all of our constitutional chain of command.

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Jan 12, 2018 16:52:13   #
emarine
 
Craig AZ wrote:
So far he hasn't done a damn thing that would call for all that kind of thinking and disrespect. Trump has accomplished nearly 95% of the campaign promises that he made, which is a feat that no other president can say.

1.) He has had a very impressive run so far and surpassed every president since Ike in accomplishments and serving the people, the constitution and the nation. Stopping trillions from being sucked out of our treasury, into personal accounts as payoffs, bribes and kick backs.

2.) I saw in the breaking news where Trump has had more then 81 accomplishments so far, so there is way to many for me to write out here and if he didn't have to drag everything out of the DNC he would have done much more.

3.) He is the first president to make his war an all out effort on World Wide Organized Crime and Terrorism.
{ It's a big job but I consider it to be a World War, that they started and we have to win. }

We all should watch close because we're making history these next few days, weeks, months or years and because of Trump we are being able to see it all and make up our own minds, course not right away, for there will be a closed door grand jury, with a senate oversight committee and DOJ, all very closed in, but the best chance we have to ever seeing that truth would be Trump, if he stays as open as he has been this last year, these records won't become another Kennedy file.
Trump is much more open and you not waiting 5-20 years before the records are released, we wants all to know what happened before the next generation comes into power and that only comes from a government that goes through all of our constitutional chain of command.
So far he hasn't done a damn thing that would call... (show quote)



Man you sure have it down... you must take notes watching Fox News... 95% BS...

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Jan 12, 2018 17:22:30   #
Craig AZ Loc: Superior, AZ
 
emarine wrote:
Man you sure have it down... you must take notes watching Fox News... 95% BS...



Yeah I watch some Fox, but I also
watch the committees sessions \
court trails
interviews with the senators, like Gowdy, Jordan and Nunes

I get my information right from the horses mouths and I've especially enjoyed the Oversight Committee and the DOJ.

It just now started to come back alive under Trump, because with Obama it was pretty dead and secretive, really nothing was wrong, because there was no wrong when it came to them. Obama's DOJ did not prosecute one crime in their entire eight years, when in every other administration there had been at lease one every year.

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Jan 12, 2018 18:21:09   #
emarine
 
Craig AZ wrote:
Yeah I watch some Fox, but I also
watch the committees sessions \
court trails
interviews with the senators, like Gowdy, Jordan and Nunes

I get my information right from the horses mouths and I've especially enjoyed the Oversight Committee and the DOJ.

It just now started to come back alive under Trump, because with Obama it was pretty dead and secretive, really nothing was wrong, because there was no wrong when it came to them. Obama's DOJ did not prosecute one crime in their entire eight years, when in every other administration there had been at lease one every year.
Yeah I watch some Fox, but I also br watch the c... (show quote)




That's interesting ... my favorite thing is sourcing where the money comes from then seeing how they vote...

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Jan 12, 2018 18:29:23   #
Craig AZ Loc: Superior, AZ
 
emarine wrote:
Na... it's just ironic when someone claims he is the champion of the working class & craps on a gold throne... watch out now before you purchase a bridge from him too... now I'm laughing also...




Just as much as it is for millionaires to kneel and protest for equal rights of the down trodden as they sit in their big mansions eating caviar and drinking Champaign.

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Jan 12, 2018 18:53:53   #
Craig AZ Loc: Superior, AZ
 
emarine wrote:
That's interesting ... my favorite thing is sourcing where the money comes from then seeing how they vote...




Yeah have you ever watched the Senate Appropriations Committees and the Oversight.

Things like the $50m they allocated for information and training, of no one.
$20m for firewood that never appeared.
$9m for a study that developed into a 135 page document. ( Chaffetz was real pissed at that one)
$835k for more informants
$75k for 25 bicycles (that one got to Gowdy)

There were many more and much more money some time even billions, like the $2.2b that disappeared from our SS and Welfare
The $150m that Obama confiscated from the VA fund and gave $100m of it to the refugees three days later.

The list goes on and on with everyone's hands in the cookie jar, or how else can that Debra Weiner's IT making a five figure salary, but still able to have nearly $6m in savings.

Other Senators starting with nothing, but ending with hundreds of millions in savings and never doing a damn thing their entire lives for the people they robbed.

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