Mr Shako Loc: Colo Spgs

I read and re-read your citations. For the life of me, I find no reference whatever to Key being "angry that some of his friends were defeated by Black soldiers who had joined the British army to be free." What friends? What former black slaves? What battle? Bladensburg?

I think you're the one who needs to learn "a little more history."

moldyoldy

It so happens that whites are the overwhelming killers of cops.

moldyoldy

Always willing to educate.
Of particular note was Key’s opposition to the idea of the Colonial Marines. The Marines were a battalion of runaway slaves who joined with the British Royal Army in exchange for their freedom. The Marines were not only a terrifying example of what slaves would do if given the chance, but also a repudiation of the white superiority that men like Key were so invested in.
All of these ideas and concepts came together around Aug. 24, 1815, at the Battle of Bladensburg, where Key, who was serving as a lieutenant at the time, ran into a battalion of Colonial Marines. His troops were taken to the woodshed by the very black folks he disdained, and he fled back to his home in Georgetown to lick his wounds. The British troops, emboldened by their victory in Bladensburg, then marched into Washington, D.C., burning the Library of Congress, the Capitol Building and the White House. You can imagine that Key was very much in his feelings seeing black soldiers trampling on the city he so desperately loved.
http://www.theroot.com/star-spangled-bigotry-the-hidden-racist-history-of-the-1790855893

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

We'll see how they deal with this in 2018 but as I said; the lefties wanna kill football anyway...too masculine, people getting hurt and all that, I guess. Will they send in the limp-wristed lawyers to finish the job?

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

The Colonial Marines were part of an opposing army. In battle I would have mercilessly killed every single one of them I could. Still would.

The rest of it is political melodrama. Find a new hobby.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

This may be appropriate to the discussion I'm not sure it's a quote from someone who hated the gentleman's sport of pugilism.
" The masses can be so compassionate when they are happy, carrying their sons upon their shoulders. In this way they carried Hannibal, Barclay, Savonarola, Dayton, Robespierre, Mussolini, and Nixon, yet how harsh they can be when they become angry. They conspired against Hannibal and poisoned him, burnt Savonarola at the stake, brought brown Danton to the guillotine. Robespierre was destroyed by his beloved fiancee, while the masses dragged Mussolini's corpse through the streets, and spat in Nixon's face as he departed the White House for good, after having applauded his entrance for years".
End quote.
Trump certainly is no gentleman and he's against the vast majority players of gridiron, who don't want to be servants of politics in sport, maybe Trump could go the same was as the writer of the words above, you'd never guess it but he fated much worse than Nixon.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

The masses are fickle bastards. They were already under the influence of the limp-wristers when the protest distraction came up. Masses like to see things fall apart...even things they like, sometimes.

Nixon and Mussolini?

No...I get it ...it's possible the base could turn on Trump but only he can make that happen.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

If only we could convince all the rednecks on OPP to besmirch their own emotions and advise Trump to head for the safe centre we would have contributed something really worth while, I don't think that the rednecks know what the Democrats promised World Plutocracy is, people become things no even animals just things.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

No, it is NOT wrong for NFL players to protest police brutality, but a large number of American's ARE saying 'It is unacceptable to protest through this venue'. There were SO many other ways to protest besides dishonoring the flag and the song that represents an entire country by refusing to honor it. When I stand and place my right hand over my heart, it is my privilege and an honor just to be able to do so. What the NFL is doing is disrespecting an entire country and the hero's who died for it for the acts of a few policemen who never should been allowed to wear the badge. If all 1000 were unarmed people of ANY race and ANY gender, the ratio is 3.08-6. That's 3.08 to the NEGATIVE exponential, a terribly small number. It SHOULD be 0 but that just ain't gonna happen. The rate of black to black killings is 9.82-6, a much larger number. Statistics show that black folks commit crime at a rate 1,000 greater than white folks. At 5 white to 1 black in America, guess who pops up in front of police WAY more than anybody else...black men. My point is that if whites committed crimes at the rate that blacks do, the number of white deaths due to police shootings would be proportionate. Also, my observations are that far more black than white people will not comply with police. Non compliance immediately makes a cop suspicious, usually with good reason. When you look at the number of police in America and factor in the number of police killed by gunfire in 2016, the ratio is 8.32-5. That's a much greater number than that of police doing the killing. Fact 'a' business, police kill MORE white than black, even though blacks commit crime 1,000 more often than whites. I will NEVER take up sides with or respect ANY officer that abuses their authority. But I will not blindly accept that NFL players are correctly protesting police injustice by dishonoring our flag and anthem when the inequality simply does not exist. HOWEVER, it IS the right of any NFL player to protest anything they choose, but they should have picked a different venue.

moldyoldy

Like everything else in the US, crime stats are subjective. You get 20 years for crack and six months for coke because coke is used by the upper crust. White crime gets reduced to misdemeanors, while Black is a felony. Suspended sentences and community service instead of jail.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Trump is already mostly in the center, at least on the social stuff. The Dems (rank and file) don't seem to realize how much better a friend he is to some of their issues than most other Republicans would be.

They're just really pissed (mad, not drunk...well, some may be drunk) because they took for granted the HAG would win.

When you snooze you lose is my motto!

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I'm open minded because as you have said in the past, - there are basically no overall answers,- so someone must be open minded if their not pointing to a specific answer and only expressing opinions concerning mistakes.

For a start, here's a glaring Trump mistake, if an athlete wants to protest defenceless poor people being bullied by well connected powerful elites how many ways has he got to choose from.?.

Surely a protest is about expressing commitment for your personal development as a person wanting to distinguish yourself as the image of God, the athlete could hold up a sign in the park and someone might notice his prestigious efforts in a certain field of endeavour connected to his social justice cause, but that is unlikely to happen, and it would not be a genuine protest if he had a better way to achieve his ambition.

But to avoid doing so because he opted to comply with a Political Act due to other people's ideological compulsions intruding into his spot, which he does not agree with for the reason of intrusion or the value of the act itself, is to betray his inner self aspirations causing a disingenuous personality on the streets looking to get even.

Imagine Australian or British boxers saluting God save the Queen in the ring the proposition is absurd.

The Bill of Rights is very clear, and it follows the Magna Carta.
This is from memory.

No man will be seized or imprisoned
Or outlawed or exiled
Or deprived of "his standing" or possessions,
And neither will we pursue him with force or send others to do except by a decision of "his equals" or the law of the land.

Standing and equals are the axiom principles of all social interaction.

Trump is coming across as a supporter of privlige showing disrespect for anyone who is not expressing his personal sentiments.

The Dems have got these underprivileged people under their belt, they could eaisly become the new hippy phenomenon if that happens it's over for Republicans and the Nation State.

Trump has got to move in that obviously expanding demographic egalitarian conscious direction, even by just being neutral, and not continually trying to out-do the fanatics at being fanatical.

Saying Americans don't have the right to protest in a nonviolent manner because it offends some people's political values is a ship about to be sunk.

mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma

Have you ever thought about copying and pasting the truth instead of all the trash from all the Lib rags you keep referring? You couldn't care less about Papa Johns however you are preordained to protect tour overpaid baby dumplings. Suppose I said Trump was a lunatic that happens to be White while your Godfather is an ignorant moron that happens to be black. In order to process that you need to contact your board of directors Huffington,Salon, Mother Jones, Media Matters,Daily kos, MSNBC and CNN.

moldyoldy

Being an idiot, you look at where the post comes from like Kos or Huffpost but they post stories written by others both right and left. Trump is a lunatic, that is why he spends so much time trying to convince people that he is smart. He is not smart, he inherited well.

mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma

I was going to say one cannot be a dummy and be president however I remembered 8 years of of disaster by an extreme dummy. I enjoy debating with you but you constantly lie about everything. You know very well that those rags of yours only post left stories which is why you cut and paste them. If they did post something normal you would beat it to death.