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Dec 27, 2017 11:52:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
[quote=Glaucon]
eagleye13 wrote:
Glaucon; so you defend Alinski!!!!
Now that would be a hoot if not so sad.
How about a study in Communism?
You could sure use it.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/communist-disinformation-american-style/

Communism is always a loser for those not on the inside;

It took the Russians 100 years to throw out the oligarchs/Bolsheviks.

You seem to want conflict with me. Alinski was anti communist and, again, read some of his writings. Communism is a theory of government that sounded great and turned out to be terrible. Russia is trying to recover from their experiment with communism. They still have oligarchs in Russia, but now the oligarchs are also plutocrats. You need to take in some real information form reliable sources and you also need to try to control your hateful emotions. It is estimated that Putin is the wealthiest person in the world. He now owns the greatest wealth, but also owns our president and that is a big concern to me.
Glaucon; so you defend Alinski!!!! br Now that wou... (show quote)


Alinski was anti-communist?
He sure liked using their tactics.

"It is "estimated" that Putin is the wealthiest person in the world (Really? So what. Is he running our economy? BTW; Putin threw out the godless Bolsheviks). He now owns the greatest wealth, but also owns our president (Glauk, you rely on the CNN-CBS-NBC-ABC network too much) and that is a big concern to me." (I am sure it does. What about the Banking Cabal?

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Dec 27, 2017 12:00:17   #
S. Maturin
 
[quote=Glaucon]
eagleye13 wrote:
Glaucon; so you defend Alinski!!!!
Now that would be a hoot if not so sad.
How about a study in Communism?
You could sure use it.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/communist-disinformation-american-style/

Communism is always a loser for those not on the inside;

It took the Russians 100 years to throw out the oligarchs/Bolsheviks.

You seem to want conflict with me. Alinski was anti communist and, again, read some of his writings. Communism is a theory of government that sounded great and turned out to be terrible. Russia is trying to recover from their experiment with communism. They still have oligarchs in Russia, but now the oligarchs are also plutocrats. You need to take in some real information form reliable sources and you also need to try to control your hateful emotions. It is estimated that Putin is the wealthiest person in the world. He now owns the greatest wealth, but also owns our president and that is a big concern to me.
Glaucon; so you defend Alinski!!!! br Now that wou... (show quote)



Alinsky was "anti-communist".

Hitler was also "anti-communist"

So?

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Dec 27, 2017 12:08:32   #
Glaucon
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Alinski was anti-communist?
He sure liked using their tactics.

"It is "estimated" that Putin is the wealthiest person in the world (Really? So what. Is he running our economy? BTW; Putin threw out the godless Bolsheviks). He now owns the greatest wealth, but also owns our president (Glauk, you rely on the CNN-CBS-NBC-ABC network too much) and that is a big concern to me." (I am sure it does. What about the Banking Cabal?


Communism is dead. It was an interesting theory, but very bad in practice. Celebrate the death of communism and try to get over it and find something or someone to focus your irrational hate on.

You have absolutely no idea the information sources I rely on. I find some sources more reliable than others and I always question my own opinions and beliefs more than I do those of others. There is much propaganda out there and we need to learn to do a lot more than choose among propaganda, we need to avoid putting our total trust in any and remain skeptical of all.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:32:02   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Glaucon wrote:
Communism is dead. It was an interesting theory, but very bad in practice. Celebrate the death of communism and try to get over it and find something or someone to focus your irrational hate on.

You have absolutely no idea the information sources I rely on. I find some sources more reliable than others and I always question my own opinions and beliefs more than I do those of others. There is much propaganda out there and we need to learn to do a lot more than choose among propaganda, we need to avoid putting our total trust in any and remain skeptical of all.
Communism is dead. It was an interesting theory, ... (show quote)


"Communism is dead. It was an interesting theory, but very bad in practice. (over 200 million people murdered and starved to death) Celebrate the death of communism and try to get over it..." - The Blind One

Communism is dead in Russia, but not in America.
It still is rearing its ugly head.
Are you aware of the CPUSA, and its sister groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, and various Soros funded organizations?

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Dec 27, 2017 12:36:06   #
johnmont
 
Steve700 wrote:
To Liberals: ---- Overwelming Proof you can't Refute:

Trump only said that yes, Obama was born in the United States, only for political expediency. He actually knows better and eventually that will be proven after a few years when Trump finally completes the dismantling of the deep state and its shadow government. Obama's own grandmother soon met a suspicious death joining Obama's Deadpool after she went around telling people she was there at the hospital in Kenya when Barack was born. That birth certificate has been thoroughly investigated and found to be a computer composite with mistakes in it like naming the hospital the change to name, rather than the name it was at the time of Obama's birth. Obama's father's nationality was also listed as African when in 1961 a black man's race was listed as Negro, Not African. The case went to court and the judge immediately threw it out, obviously because the case was just too hot and he didn't want to have to render a decision that would result in him joining Obama's Deadpool of suspicious deaths along with his own grandmother, 3 gay lovers of Obama from Jeremiah Wright's church, Joan Rivers, Loretta Fuddy, Supreme Court Justice Anthony Scolia (Now there is a provable assassination) and the scores of others who were a threat and/or uncooperative to Obama. Also, I'm sure not quite so coincidentally, a friend and fellow Sabud cult cult member of Obama's mother just happened to be recently appointed to the Hawaii Department of Health shortly before that birth certificate was issued by her all. Within a month after it was issued, this Loretta Fuddy met her untimely suspicious death when her small between the islands plane ditched into the ocean. It's time for you liberal dummies to wake up and do a little research from other than left-wing sources, so that you can know what you're talking about instead of blindly accepting whatever your dishonest, corrupt, totalitarian globalist/leftist hierarchy tells you.

Of course if you did that you would end up joining the party that holds Truth, Honesty & Integrity as their prime values, but then of course those old Christian values are just a little too repugnant to you. And of course, lies are just fine with you as long as it furthers your leftist agenda.

Very recent video on this fraud with New Information --- But don't bother to look liberals 'cuz you wouldn't want to spoil your delusion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rs23W3YkJA
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b To Liberals: /b ---- u Overwelming Proof yo... (show quote)

FACT! Columbia University never put foreign student on their student IDs!.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:48:39   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
johnmont wrote:
FACT! Columbia University never put foreign student on their student IDs!.


What about the rest of the points made by Steve?

"I don't avoid learning but actually totally immersed myself in all aspects of the political realm and what is going on in this world. (Even Bible prophecy which when you know enough of it actually proves the authenticity, accuracy of the Bible and hand of God in the composition of the Scriptures) Not only that, but I listen to CNN and read stuff from sources like Media Matters, Politico, Addicting Info. and videos by lefties. And I read and listen to people who know and understand liberals like David Horowitz (the previous hard-core leftist activists & journalist}, Dennis Prager, Larry Elder, Mark Levine, Michael Savage, etc. (not just Fox News who are limited in what they are allowed to tell you) And I can tell you for sure, if you listened to them for a couple hours a day for a couple months or less, you would no longer be a liberal. The problem with liberals beyond the spiritual and personality defects that make them susceptible to Marxist propaganda, is that although they claim to be all about diversity, they stay within their bubble and when it comes to a debate forum like OPP there is no ability to be objective and learn something. Only the feeling that they are being noble by automatic denial while striving hard to defeat the 'opposition'.
.
Now go back and read your last sentence and know that it is .....
Now go back and read your last sentence and know t...
The defense mechanism of projection perhaps??? And believe me you are Not Enlightened as the Marxist propaganda is designed to make you feel about yourself. Progressivism, with it's diversity was the cause for the eventual fall of Rome. RESEARCH IT" - Steve

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Dec 27, 2017 13:01:45   #
Glaucon
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Communism is dead. It was an interesting theory, but very bad in practice. (over 200 million people murdered and starved to death) Celebrate the death of communism and try to get over it..." - The Blind One

Communism is dead in Russia, but not in America.
It still is rearing its ugly head.
Are you aware of the CPUSA, and its sister groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, and various Soros funded organizations?


Try to let go of it. Trust me, it is dead in Russia and in America. Get used to it. We have many problems we need to deal with and it is unproductive to get distracted by something that no longer exists.

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Dec 27, 2017 13:06:41   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Glaucon wrote:
Try to let go of it. Trust me, it is dead in Russia and in America. Get used to it. We have many problems we need to deal with and it is unproductive to get distracted by something that no longer exists.


"Try to let go of it. Trust me, it is dead in Russia and in America. Get used to it. We have many problems we need to deal with and it is unproductive to get distracted by something that no longer exists." -Glaucoma

Glaucoma; your condition is worse than just blindness. Did you bang your head?
Soros exists; and he spends billions on Leftist causes, and insurrection. That is a Lefty kind of thingy.
AND besides; he still has you.

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Dec 27, 2017 13:48:48   #
S. Maturin
 
Glaucon wrote:
Try to let go of it. Trust me, it is dead in Russia and in America. Get used to it. We have many problems we need to deal with and it is unproductive to get distracted by something that no longer exists.


"...Get used to it. .."

"Because I said so."

"Get over it."

"Put it behind you."

"Get on with your life."

Typical.

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Dec 27, 2017 16:19:31   #
Glaucon
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Try to let go of it. Trust me, it is dead in Russia and in America. Get used to it. We have many problems we need to deal with and it is unproductive to get distracted by something that no longer exists." -Glaucoma

Glaucoma; your condition is worse than just blindness. Did you bang your head?
Soros exists; and he spends billions on Leftist causes, and insurrection. That is a Lefty kind of thingy.
AND besides; he still has you.


You seem to confuse communism, liberalism and Democrats and they have little in common. Soros is a very small player in our political system and, if you were able and willing to read the Wikipedia summary on Soros, you might just
be able to let it go. We have many very serious problems in America and Soros isn't even one of them. , Don't continue to allow yourself to be distracted from real issues. I recommended a book to you some time back and never heard from you about it. You seem to successfully ignore all information that refutes your core beliefs. The two greatest threats to America are a rapidly widening gap between our haves and or have nots and the destruction of our earth, land, water and air.

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Dec 27, 2017 16:21:32   #
Glaucon
 
S. Maturin wrote:
"...Get used to it. .."

"Because I said so."

"Get over it."

"Put it behind you."

"Get on with your life."

Typical.


Reality seems to be beyond your capacity and you seem to have big problems even paying attention.

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Dec 27, 2017 20:26:26   #
johnmont
 
eagleye13 wrote:
What about the rest of the points made by Steve?

"I don't avoid learning but actually totally immersed myself in all aspects of the political realm and what is going on in this world. (Even Bible prophecy which when you know enough of it actually proves the authenticity, accuracy of the Bible and hand of God in the composition of the Scriptures) Not only that, but I listen to CNN and read stuff from sources like Media Matters, Politico, Addicting Info. and videos by lefties. And I read and listen to people who know and understand liberals like David Horowitz (the previous hard-core leftist activists & journalist}, Dennis Prager, Larry Elder, Mark Levine, Michael Savage, etc. (not just Fox News who are limited in what they are allowed to tell you) And I can tell you for sure, if you listened to them for a couple hours a day for a couple months or less, you would no longer be a liberal. The problem with liberals beyond the spiritual and personality defects that make them susceptible to Marxist propaganda, is that although they claim to be all about diversity, they stay within their bubble and when it comes to a debate forum like OPP there is no ability to be objective and learn something. Only the feeling that they are being noble by automatic denial while striving hard to defeat the 'opposition'.
.
Now go back and read your last sentence and know that it is .....
Now go back and read your last sentence and know t...
The defense mechanism of projection perhaps??? And believe me you are Not Enlightened as the Marxist propaganda is designed to make you feel about yourself. Progressivism, with it's diversity was the cause for the eventual fall of Rome. RESEARCH IT" - Steve
What about the rest of the points made by Steve? b... (show quote)


More proof that conservative sheeple don't know the difference between communism, socialism and Marxism.

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Dec 27, 2017 21:25:57   #
Glaucon
 
johnmont wrote:
More proof that conservative sheeple don't know the difference between communism, socialism and Marxism.
I have never encountered such a group terrified by accurate information. They deal in labels, absolutes, and tribalism. Those characteristics were valuable at stages of our evolution, but now they are counter producinve.

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Dec 28, 2017 00:17:11   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
johnmont wrote:
More proof that conservative sheeple don't know the difference between communism, socialism and Marxism.


Liberals don't know what Communism delivered in the past, and that C's hide behing socialism. They think an all powerful government will be honorable and compassionate.
When has that happened?

http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/communist-disinformation-american-style/
This will help you understand the "progressive" lies that are the base for this anti American anti capitalist anti Western culture anti Christianity and their ultimate goals.

Good link on CPUSA history.
Something "progressives"/liberals should take the time to review, if they are not already pro-communist.


"In all, whether “un-American” was hurled by Frank Marshall Davis or his liberal/progressive or communist friends, think about their argument: The left was, in effect, arguing that the true Americans were the card-carrying, closet American communists – literally pledged to Stalin’s USSR and the Comintern – whereas the un-Americans were the anti-communists, especially those elected to Congress and fulfilling their duty of investigating possible secret Soviet agents or collaborators. For these congressmen, their duties to the U.S. Constitution mandated that they pursue potential indigenous security threats.

Frank Marshall Davis and his comrades constantly tried to argue that they weren’t communists, but were mere “progressives” being unfairly hounded by Neanderthal McCarthyites and the evil “HUAC.” This was disinformation they fed to liberals, which, in turn, fomented a wider anti-“HUAC” campaign. Liberals, naturally, swallowed the bait hook, line and sinker. In truth, these guys were communists, and they were rightly being pursued for their correctly suspected pro-Soviet activities.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/communist-disinformation-american-style/#GePCUyLiQxTVKU1i.99


This will help more people to understand the "progressive" BS that is the base for this anti American, anti capitalist, anti Western culture, anti Christianity movement; and their ultimate goals..."

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Dec 28, 2017 04:49:19   #
Steve700
 
Glaucon wrote:
You need to read Alinski and some of the history of that time so you can get at least some understanding of the issues. In the mean time, you may want to quit embarrassing yourself with silly stuff.
I have read Alinsky and me embarrassing myself? LOL There you go with more projection. I know full well the history of the time and that minorities needed to be uplifted and have their equality as equal citizens be respected. That does not make a book acknowledging or dedicated to Satan either noble or righteous. The aim of giving the disadvantage poor a little power and influence in government maybe noble, but using dirty tactics of deception and trickery to accomplish those ends destroys any nobility that may be otherwise in it. Alinsky was the avowed communist and the results of teaching people dirty tactics and turn them into a bunch of degenerate scumbags only overthrows any noble intent. You are just destroying the nation, (and creating the idea that revolution is desirable and necessary). We don't need a bunch of degenerate scumbags even voting, much less running the country. The founding fathers said that this noble experiment of democracy would work only so long as we had a moral and well-informed electorate. Don't try to feed me at bull shit that there is anything good about Alinsky is directives. Only a degenerate scumbag would think there is

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