Rich get richer (Page 6): Wondering at the appellation, I googled Glaucon and found this: http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/plato/rep/rep0200.htm Wherein is found, "For Glaucon, who is...

acknowledgeurma

Glaucon wrote:

As a psychologist, I would say that rewards are much more powerful in getting the behaviors you want.

Wondering at the appellation, I googled Glaucon and found this:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/plato/rep/rep0200.htm
Wherein is found, "For Glaucon, who is always the most pugnacious of men..."

But also:
https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/r/republic/character-analysis/glaucon
Wherein is found:
Glaucon, the "owl-eyed" one, is said to be him "who can see in the gathering twilight." His naming may suggest a kind of Platonic banter, because Glaucon certainly has difficulty in perceiving parts of Socrates' argument, particularly the analogies. For example, when Socrates in Book II is trying to elucidate the character of the ideal Guardian, he says that a well-bred dog has the qualities of a philosopher, and Glaucon admits that he is confused. Then Socrates explains that a family dog and a philosopher share a common trait, and that common trait is knowledge: The dog knows an acquaintance and does not attack, but the dog does not know a stranger and attacks. Glaucon says that he has never thought about that trait in a dog, which bespeaks a curious ignorance of dogs generally and a potential danger for a budding thinker.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Loki wrote:

You would lose.

9 years?

Glaucon

Loki wrote:

As long as there remains the spectre of door #2.

Sometimes a bit of the possibility of door #2 works well , and sometimes door #1 only is most effective.. It depends.

Glaucon

acknowledgeurma wrote:

But certainty of consequences, aids in forming informed behavior.

It depends on several variables: Give me an example of what you nmean..

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Mr Shako wrote:

I beat you! My SS went up $1.00/mo!

My SS went up $3.00 while my Medicare went up $25.00.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

PoppaGringo wrote:

My SS went up $3.00 while my Medicare went up $25.00.

Pop how do like liven on socialistic income?

JoyV

Well Said Loki!!!!!

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Bad Bob wrote:

Pop how do like liven on socialistic income?

I don't know as I have never tried it? How do you like living on my taxes?

JoyV

The extortion reference was for social security. Not for taxes. SS is supposed to be a government controlled retirement nest egg. Receiving it is not welfare. It is money you paid in which was suppose to be held for your retirement.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

PoppaGringo wrote:

I don't know as I have never tried it? How do you like living on my taxes?

You will.

Glaucon

JoyV wrote:

The extortion reference was for social security. Not for taxes. SS is supposed to be a government controlled retirement nest egg. Receiving it is not welfare. It is money you paid in which was suppose to be held for your retirement.

ALL social programs are funded by taxes and that includes Medicare and Social Security The are social programs thatg benefit us all, including gir protection, our military and our police to name only a very few. Social Security is a safety net, not a retirement program.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Bad Bob wrote:

You will.

When? How?

Glaucon

PoppaGringo wrote:

I don't know as I have never tried it? How do you like living on my taxes?

I don't know how much tax you pay on your Social Security payments. Do you have to pay taxes on the other "entitlements " you receive? Answer those questions and I will let you know how I would like to live on it.

acknowledgeurma

Glaucon wrote:

It depends on several variables: Give me an example of what you nmean..

If one knows one will get a cookie by reaching in the cookie jar, then ...
If one knows one will get a hand slapped by reaching in the cookie jar, then ...
In these circumstances one's behavior is informed.
If one is uncertain of the presence of cookies or hand slappers, then ...
In this circumstance one's behavior is less informed.

Glaucon

acknowledgeurma wrote:

If one knows one will get a cookie by reaching in the cookie jar, then ...
If one knows one will get a hand slapped by reaching in the cookie jar, then ...
In these circumstances one's behavior is informed.
If one is uncertain of the presence of cookies or hand slappers, then ...
In this circumstance one's behavior is less informed.

That is a simplistic view of behavior modification that would be disected in any introductory psychology course. Take a course and find that there are ways to get the results you want with better outcomes and no slapping. The best strategy for eliminating reaching in the cookie jar depends on several critical factors. How old is the cookie thief? Was the thief old enough to respond to verbal instructions? Were you ignorant of positive, non violent methods of behavior management and influence? I raised five children and never needed to hit any of them and they are now very successful adults.