The policies say that companies may use that information to send you targeted advertising or, if necessary, to comply with requests from government authorities.
This part was supposed to be interpreted as being in the case of "bad guys" wanting to do "bad things"....
Seems the NSA took it to mean, HEY SINCE WE CAN DO THIS, WE SHOULD DO THIS!!!..... Geezers give these people an inch and they take a mile.
It is one of those foreign corporations.
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
It is one of those foreign corporations.
Augustus, I don't know where their server is ore who owns the company, it may be worth researching....
Here ya go Dutch...StartPage.com and its sister search engine, Ixquick.com, were launched in 2006 to provide a private way for Americans to conduct Internet searches. StartPage provides a private portal to Google results, and Ixquick allows users to retrieve private results from other search engines.
Worried for our children wrote:
The policies say that companies may use that information to send you targeted advertising or, if necessary, to comply with requests from government authorities.
This part was supposed to be interpreted as being in the case of "bad guys" wanting to do "bad things"....
Seems the NSA took it to mean, HEY SINCE WE CAN DO THIS, WE SHOULD DO THIS!!!..... Geezers give these people an inch and they take a mile.
That's because the policies weren't defined enough. You can't leave open ends with the government or the corporations that control it.
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
It is one of those foreign corporations.
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
straightUp wrote:
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
Well, let's put it this way: Do Swiss banks report American finances to the US government?
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Netherlands. I did.
Figures... The Netherlands is one of the most free nations on Earth.
Also, in case anyone is interested, there are many other legal ways to avoid surveillance... For instance, anonymous browsing using technologies like Tor, which I highly recommend. The government doesn't like it, but so far they haven't shut these options down.
You can also use VPN systems that change your IP address. I use a system called VPNUK to tunnel into the UK so I can watch programming that's
commercially censored in this country. For me it's mostly sporting events not covered by US media companies that nevertheless demand exclusive control over your viewing. With a UK IP I can get around that. I can also use this system to tunnel to Canada, the Netherlands, Germany and a few other places where information is more available than it is here.
Hamachi is another good VPN system that you can use to connect with other people using the same system and it supports 128-bit encryption. You can also get PGP packages (Pretty Good Privacy) to encrypt things like your e-mail. So... there are still legal options that the government hasn't shut down... yet.
Just beware that if your throwing a lot of encrypted traffic around it *may* attract attention - so you need to know your rights. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is an excellent place to get your bearings in this regard. I support them regularly as they are also stout champions of online privacy, complete with lawyers and lobbyists.
This may not sit well with a lot of conservatives here, since they seem to like censorship and control but again... none of the systems I've listed are illegal... yet... and I for one, would like to see these systems gain more popular support as that maybe the only thing that keeps the government at bay. Does this make it easier for terrorists? Yes, of course it does, but I'll take freedom over security any day and honestly, it's not the terrorists that I worry about.
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Well, let's put it this way: Do Swiss banks report American finances to the US government?
But it's US companies that USE these Swiss banks... US companies, including Google, Facebook, Microsoft and many others also set up off-shore subsidiaries in the Caymans and Bermuda to avoid paying taxes. So choosing a US company doesn't guarantee any kind of transparency, or ethical standard.
straightUp wrote:
Figures... The Netherlands is one of the most free nations on Earth.
Also, in case anyone is interested, there are many other legal ways to avoid surveillance... For instance, anonymous browsing using technologies like Tor, which I highly recommend. The government doesn't like it, but so far they haven't shut these options down.
You can also use VPN systems that change your IP address. I use a system called VPNUK to tunnel into the UK so I can watch programming that's commercially censored in this country. For me it's mostly sporting events not covered by US media companies that nevertheless demand exclusive control over your viewing. With a UK IP I can get around that. I can also use this system to tunnel to Canada, the Netherlands, Germany and a few other places where information is more available than it is here.
Hamachi is another good VPN system that you can use to connect with other people using the same system and it supports 128-bit encryption. You can also get PGP packages (Pretty Good Privacy) to encrypt things like your e-mail. So... there are still legal options that the government hasn't shut down... yet.
Just beware that if your throwing a lot of encrypted traffic around it *may* attract attention - so you need to know your rights. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is an excellent place to get your bearings in this regard. I support them regularly as they are also stout champions of online privacy, complete with lawyers and lobbyists.
This may not sit well with a lot of conservatives here, since they seem to like censorship and control but again... none of the systems I've listed are illegal... yet... and I for one, would like to see these systems gain more popular support as that maybe the only thing that keeps the government at bay. Does this make it easier for terrorists? Yes, of course it does, but I'll take freedom over security any day and honestly, it's not the terrorists that I worry about.
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How many total IP addresses are there? As I figure it, most people don't have an individually identifiable IP address.
Define: Who you are not worried about.
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Netherlands. I did.
Why did you search this? It is in the article.
oldroy wrote:
Why did you search this? It is in the article.
Dutchman asked where their servers are located. Not necessarily where the company is based. Sorry, if that is confusing.
The Netherlands do not grant legal rights to non-citizens. Which means you, in using a Netherlands based server, have no legal rights, except through diplomatic process of your government. It is an advertisement for a totally unguaranteed service.
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