Trump and Isreal (Page 2): No Sir you did not try to keep this topic simple. Instead you have done as you always do, not presenting any facts just throwing slurs. If you had any...

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

No Sir you did not try to keep this topic simple. Instead you have done as you always do, not presenting any facts just throwing slurs. If you had any understanding of world history and Bible history you would know that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. It is going to happen, doesn't matter if Trump or another President does it. When I was in Iraq and Afghanistan and all the other shit hole missions we were in. I always had a Bible in my pocket. That when the shit came down, I could find peace in God's word. I also had my weapon in my other hand. We gave you the right to spout the Anti-American Bullshit that you do. All this is God's Will and there is not a damn thing you or I can do about. uote=Airforceone]Trump: It’s been a long time coming I am doing what no other president had refused to do. The US will recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

First it will upset efforts to broker peace between Isreal and the Palestinians and possibly igniting the Israel/Palestinian war.

What Trump has done is to totally undermine the efforts of his administration to resume pease process and fuel the feelings between Muslims and Christians. Now do you understand why Muslims hate Americans. The US killed over 500,000 Muslims because of WMDs and a nuke program that turned out to be false and verified phony intel.

Now why would that idiot in the White House do such a stupid thing. First it satisfies Sheldon Adelson who donated $38 million to Trump. It has been obvious that Adelson has been irate that Trump has not go public with the change. Also with the negative press about his crime family it was a good idea to pacify the Pedaphile base of evangelicals.

Jerusalem’s status has not been settled, the ongoing talks between east and west continue in an attempt at peace and come to a two state solution. I could get into the two state solution. I could explain the rights of Muslims, Christians Jews as to who has the claim to this holy ground. But you can eliminate the evangelical calls now unless Jesus Christ was a Pedaphile.

Most Jews in Isreal did not want this move at this time due to the ongoing peace talks with fears of Isreal/Palestinian war to start up again. But Isreal elected there Donald Trump clone. (Benjamin Netanyahu) So Isreal has there bafoons just like the US.

Former Isreal ambassador’s had sent letters to Trump warning him that this move at this time will undermine the gains they have made with the ongoing peace talks. Trump was warned by our Allies in the region not to make this move at this time. He was asked by Secratary Of State and National Security Advisor to not make that announcement. But Sheldon Adelson won that argument with the threat of pulling his funds.

But our allies know Trump is weak in the polls with his ongoing investigation into his bromance with Putin and he needs a distraction.

Kushner spoke on his commitment to peace with Isreal and the Palistinians is this Administration main goal. But in typical Trump fashion all he is doing is escalating the problems to satisfy Sheldon Adelson.

We have now undermined confidence from Palestinian’s and Arab countries that the US would remain an impartial negotiator in efforts to create peace. Just can’t imagine Jordan and the Egyptians excepting this move. Violence and protest will break out in this region and for what purpose. Muslims around the world have now started to use as a recruiting tool.

Several Trump advisors said that Trump did not seem to have a full understanding of the issue and instead appeared to be just pro Israel which points right at Sheldon Adelson dictating Isreal/Palestinian peace talks.

Now the reports of the so-called (DAYS OF RAGE) now erupts in the Mid East after the idiot Trump decision. It just does not make sense that at this time to make an announcement like this. The whole peace negotiations was based on a two state solution well what Trump has done is threw the whole region into a turmoil and the violence has already begun.

Look we all know this issue is very complicated, it’s very difficult to explain and understand the different religions all wanting there holy land.

I tried to keep this topic simple because evangelicals that support this move are not into common sense. They have there Bible in one hand, there gun in the other and a bumper sticker that says we support a Pedaphile’s.

TRUMP ACCOMPLISHED WEAKENING THE AMERICAN INFLUENCE IN THE NEGOTIONS BUT MADE THE HARD RIGHT IN ISREAL AND THE PEDAPHILS IN THE US VERY HAPPY.[/quote]

Highlander66 Loc: Illinois

Radiance3 wrote:

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I believe you are wrong! Whether Israel makes Jerusalem as capital or not, the Palestinians aided by Muslims especially Iran are vent to totally destroy Israel. That is their ultimate goal. Iran had promised to completely annihilate Israel.

Obama provided Iran enough funding of $150 billion, plus $1.75 billion cash, to enlarge Iran's nuclear capability. The number one objective is to totally erase Israel from the Middle East.

Israel owns Jerusalem. Since 4000 years ago until now, that has been proven by history. King David bought Jerusalem for 55 shekels from the natives, and built the Altar of God, the Temple Mount, made various offerings to God. Jesus Christ descended from King David died in Jerusalem. In fact the Church of Christ called the Holy Sepulcher was destroyed by the Muslims when they invaded Jerusalem in 637 AD (after the death of Christ). That was 3500 years later after the Jewish settlement there.

In 1947 UN resolution allowed Israel to come home to their homeland. In 1948 Muslims attacked Israel but Israel won. In 1967 several Muslim countries attacked Israel, still Israel won.

It was generous of Israel to give a portion of Jerusalem to the Palestinians, and allow them to worship on that Dome where the Temple Mount originally stood, but destroyed by Muslims.

Muslims don't own the whole Middle East. They invaded the land, killed Christians, raped Christian women, killed Jews, and killed also each other. Muslims by their behavior are savages. They don't belong in a civilized world. Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hizbollah, ISIS, Boko Haram, Sunnis, Shiites, kill each other. Each of their ultimate goal is taking over the whole world for their moon god.

Islam vowed to destroy all those who don't convert. Read the Quran, they are all written there. Their most important target is the West especially Europe and the United States because of its wealth and history.

Do you then give up and surrender the rights of Israel to survive? Bravo to president Trump. He has the courage and guts to make the right decision. All prior presidents want Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Except of course Mr. Obama, who hates Israel.

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Well said. I appreciate this

peter11937 Loc: NYS

Airforceone wrote:

Turn the news on and see the results of Trumps action. And to make a stupid statement like that it shows how stupid you really are.

This country invaded Iraq in false intel that they had WMDs and this so called Massive nuclear Program. We murdered over 500,000 Muslims, so stop you’re sanctimonious BS and wake up.

Everybody wants peace, join you ha ha now that’s a joke I don’t team up with the idiot right that supports sexual abuse and Pedaphile’s.

Rather it is 165,000 counted but sites hostile to the action insist it was much higher , even those who acknowledge the lower number. I suppose you'd have been happy if Saddam and his two sons were still murdering , raping and torturing away in Iraq. http://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

moldyoldy

peter11937 wrote:

Rather it is 165,000 counted but sites hostile to the action insist it was much higher , even those who acknowledge the lower number. I suppose you'd have been happy if Saddam and his two sons were still murdering , raping and torturing away in Iraq. http://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

The neo-cons planned for that war years before and saddam had nothing to fight with after years of sanctions.

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

We were the second rotation into Mosul. When we got to Saddam's Palace, there was one building that had a six foot fence all around, and a guard. When asked, the guard told us that what they found in that building, which was one of Saddam's sons. Women, Men, children. Boys and girls as young as ten. Hanging on the walls, raped and tortured. Been on many battlefields, but seeing this place, so dark and evil. Scared me the most. But, for all you Left wing, let them into our Country. After all it is a religion of peace. What are you going to say when it's your ten year old daughter hung on a wall tortured and raped ?uote=peter11937]Rather it is 165,000 counted but sites hostile to the action insist it was much higher , even those who acknowledge the lower number. I suppose you'd have been happy if Saddam and his two sons were still murdering , raping and torturing away in Iraq. http://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi[/quote]

Airforceone

JFlorio wrote:

Yet you praised the Arab Spring. Go figure.

You don’t even know what the Arab spring was

peter11937 Loc: NYS

PLT Sarge wrote:

We were the second rotation into Mosul. When we go... (show quote)

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Saddam was known to run people he did not like fed feet first alive into an industrial shredder, if you had been a friend, he run you thru head first....swell fella eh?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Airforceone wrote:

You don’t even know what the Arab spring was

It’s like Irish Spring but makes you smell like a goat.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

JFlorio wrote:

It’s like Irish Spring but makes you smell like a goat.

EL Loc: Massachusetts

[quote=Airforceone][quote=EL]You're right! And, there'll NEVER be peace there no matter what.[/quote

Only because of hate filled racist like yourself. We have extremist all over the world. We have them right here in this country. There called Neo cons, White Supremist, KKK, evangelicals and the head of this group is the freak in the White House. The consequences of Trumps action are now panning out. Violence around the world this is exactly what people like you want.[/quote]

I'm a racist because I think there will never be peace there? Guess you're one of those people that can't come up with anything else so you use racist. It's so common these days.

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

When they have ran out of the talking points they get from CNN, They then go to 1984 Doublespeak to muddy the topic. When these fails, they pull out the race card. I know that there will never be true peace in the Middle East because the Bible says that all nations will be against Israel. So, guess I'm just another Bible Thumpin Racist Redneck from Alabama.

EL wrote:

I'm a racist because I think there will never be peace there? Guess you're one of those people that can't come up with anything else so you use racist. It's so common these days.

MalG

You are trying to assert that everything in the bible is true, or are you 'cherry picking" those words to support your argument? What about the sayings of Jesus?
What a bunch of hypocrites lurk on this site.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

MalG wrote:

You are trying to assert that everything in the bible is true, or are you 'cherry picking" those words to support your argument? What about the sayings of Jesus?
What a bunch of hypocrites lurk on this site.

Which "sayings " do you have trouble with?

John.Gault Loc: Hill Country. - Great Republic of Texas

Airforceone wrote:

Trump: It’s been a long time coming I am doing wha... (show quote)

Good evening all,
I joined this site over a year ago and have had little to say although I have laughed at, shook my head at and sometimes I have teared up over various patriotic posts.
That being said I have decided that I can remain silent no longer so let me say starting out;
1. Politically I am a Constitutionalist (I believe that just like the Bible our founding fathers said what they meant and meant what they said.)
2. Although I do not attend church on a regular basis but will say upfront I was raised in a devoutly United Pentecostal family. So that should give little doubt about where I stand on the Bible.

Now for my comment about Airforce ones post, it boggles my mind how someone would expect to be taken seriously when they sanctimoniously lecture the world about a subject that they cannot even spell, the word is PEDOFILEs not PEDAPHILS, and I believe that that pedofileliy is wrong on all levels none the less I believe if you are going to post anything about anything then proper English and proper usage with proper punctuation should be used.
Nathan W Condrey

MalG

I have no trouble with any quotes of Jesus. How about "Love thy enemies" or "Do onto others what you would have them do to you
/ Love your neighbor as yourself." That's beneficial advice. But the sayings of the money-grubbing televangalists I find offensive. Do you think Jesus would enjoy sharing a meal with them?