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Nov 26, 2017 15:02:57   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
theotts wrote:
It is irrelevant that no slave-holders (or former slaves) are alive today. No victims of lynching are alive today. All but a scant few of the perpetrators of the holocaust are dead. The historic fact remains, and it's consequences are deeply enfolded in our society, not least that consequence to which you inadvertantly confess: racism.
Before your irrational screed, you might have bothered to check some facts. Wrongly-convicted blacks on death row outnumber all other wrongly convicted by half again. More blacks commit violent crimes because more blacks live in poverty and despair-- and unlike a number of your claims, such as that 700,000 white men died to end slavery who in fact died because they were drafted, that is not a suppositional claim.
Worse though is the standard far right idiocy which supposes that, because we don't live in a utopia, programs directed at social ills failed. In fact, no-one has the least idea what our society would be like had those programs never been implemented.
What do you "think" social Marxism is? I've read Marx, Proudhonne, Grotius et al. The only communalist philosophy that speaks to purely social relations is the early Christian communes. The rest speak to economic relations. Your argument is not Conservatism. It's neurotic insecurity.
You need consider only one statistic: beginning with double-digit inflation in 1970, non-salary wages have risen at just BELOW the rate of inflation, except from 1993 until 2001 when they rose overall by about 4% above inflation. Since those dates will be lost on you, that's Nixon to Bush II, excluding (gasp) Clinton. Growth has, in fact, slowed under the current Thief in Chief.
Here's a little heads up skeezix. Reality has a Liberal bias.
It is irrelevant that no slave-holders (or former ... (show quote)



You are wrong on a few things no matter where you got the data. I lived in a few poverty areas and I seen blacks with the best smart phones, new cars like a Lexus, many carry the top of the line Glocks. I also worked with many some lack incentive to do the job they where hired for. (Not all but many.)
If you check the web today you will that blacks are selling their brothers into slavery in many countries in the world, it has not gone away and it is relevant.

You say, Growth has, in fact, slowed under the current Thief in Chief. You are a fool if you think that, think is the wrong word to use on you, you lack a lot.

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Nov 26, 2017 15:06:07   #
debeda
 
Weasel wrote:
It sounds like you are saying No More Free Stuff!
That could possibly increase the benifits that I have worked to achieve in this country.
It could also lower my tax burdin, and make it possible for me to retire with a little more comfort.

I can only imagine what could happen if Politicians actually started speaking for the people who actually paid their salaries!
This could actually catch on in America.
It sounds like you are saying No More Free Stuff! ... (show quote)




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Nov 26, 2017 15:07:25   #
debeda
 
theotts wrote:
Wow. You really are that stupid. I'll just quote Sinclair Lewis: "When fascism comes to America, it will come carrying a cross and a flag."
Patriotism is evil when it's the refuge of bigots.


Yaaaaawn

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Nov 26, 2017 16:30:09   #
theotts
 
A reply so often stated that its status as an urban myth is beyond question. Just another tinkertoys-for-brains bigot demonstrating the profound dishonesty of the media portraying Trump trash as jes' folks. Jes' proto-fascist ignoramuses (ignorami?) in fact.
Put a gas guzzler tax on their hickup trucks and make the manufacture of their semi-automatic surrogate phalluses illegal.



cold iron wrote:
You are wrong on a few things no matter where you got the data. I lived in a few poverty areas and I seen blacks with the best smart phones, new cars like a Lexus, many carry the top of the line Glocks. I also worked with many some lack incentive to do the job they where hired for. (Not all but many.)
If you check the web today you will that blacks are selling their brothers into slavery in many countries in the world, it has not gone away and it is relevant.

You say, Growth has, in fact, slowed under the current Thief in Chief. You are a fool if you think that, think is the wrong word to use on you, you lack a lot.
You are wrong on a few things no matter where you ... (show quote)

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Nov 27, 2017 00:13:53   #
E
 
theotts wrote:
Wow. You really are that stupid. I'll just quote Sinclair Lewis: "When fascism comes to America, it will come carrying a cross and a flag."
Patriotism is evil when it's the refuge of bigots.


Just because someone long ago said something doesn't make it true. "When fascism comes to America, it will come carrying a cross and a flag." I see it more in thugs coming to rallies and denying others the right to free speech. Antifa, the real fascists in America.

Patriotism is evil when it's the refuge of bigots. >>> Unfortunately, as nice as that sounds, it isn't true today. Patriotism that we are calling for is for our country so is can succeed and become great again. We don't practice bigotry. We are against it in all forms. But we don't turn our lives and our country over to every little minority for the sake of their votes. We tell them to fit in and thrive amongst Americans, don't expect us to cater to you and turn our lives and good traditions over to your every little biased minority. You little minorities are welcome as long as you try to fit in and not try to turn us into what you ran away from.

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Nov 27, 2017 04:36:20   #
debeda
 
E wrote:
Just because someone long ago said something doesn't make it true. "When fascism comes to America, it will come carrying a cross and a flag." I see it more in thugs coming to rallies and denying others the right to free speech. Antifa, the real fascists in America.

Patriotism is evil when it's the refuge of bigots. >>> Unfortunately, as nice as that sounds, it isn't true today. Patriotism that we are calling for is for our country so is can succeed and become great again. We don't practice bigotry. We are against it in all forms. But we don't turn our lives and our country over to every little minority for the sake of their votes. We tell them to fit in and thrive amongst Americans, don't expect us to cater to you and turn our lives and good traditions over to your every little biased minority. You little minorities are welcome as long as you try to fit in and not try to turn us into what you ran away from.
Just because someone long ago said something doesn... (show quote)


Well said

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Nov 27, 2017 08:14:58   #
theotts
 
E wrote:
Just because someone long ago said something doesn't make it true. "When fascism comes to America, it will come carrying a cross and a flag." I see it more in thugs coming to rallies and denying others the right to free speech. Antifa, the real fascists in America.

"Antifa" means antifascist. The real fascists are the little bigots who profess to to be fascists. You know, those swastika on your t-shirt. The pigs at Charlottesville, Yiannapolis, Bretbart and Mikey Pence. Those whose "vision" of a great America encountenances gunning down unarmed 16 yr old boys and running over women. L

Patriotism is evil when it's the refuge of bigots. >>> Unfortunately, as nice as that sounds, it isn't true today. Patriotism that we are calling for is for our country so is can succeed and become great again. We don't practice bigotry. We are against it in all forms. But we don't turn our lives and our country over to every little minority for the sake of their votes. We tell them to fit in and thrive amongst Americans, don't expect us to cater to you and turn our lives and good traditions over to your every little biased minority. You little minorities are welcome as long as you try to fit in and not try to turn us into what you ran away from.
Just because someone long ago said something doesn... (show quote)


In other words, if we're white, ignorant, stupid and hypocritical.

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Nov 27, 2017 15:54:08   #
theotts
 
cold iron wrote:
You are a moron, just a moron.


You'd only know a moron if you were self aware.

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Nov 27, 2017 16:34:24   #
bahmer
 
cold iron wrote:
You are a moron, just a moron.


Once you get those black feathers all ruffled up it is so hard to smooth them all back down.

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Nov 28, 2017 10:38:25   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
cold iron wrote:
Almost 700,000 mostly white men died 160 years ago to end slavery.


No, they did not. That wholly unprovoked war of northern aggression was fought over state's rights and the limits of federal power in a union of states. Of course, when many northern men failed to enlist, mostly because they knew the truth, Abraham Lincoln ('honest Abe', what a crock) started making noises about how the north had to 'free the slaves' and how it was a 'noble undertaking'. Well, it worked. Northern men swelled the ranks of the Union army and the rest is history. Funny fact, up to that time the Confederacy was kicking northern asses for fun.

From that day to this, the Confederate States of America are and have been conquered territory. At the conclusion of the war, the union army occupied the Confederate States, raping the women and stealing anything that was not nailed down. Not only did these actions go unpunished, they were actively encouraged by the senior officers in command;

The Infamous "Woman Order" of Occupied New Orleans, also known as General Benjamin Butler's Infamous General Orders No. 28:


HDQRS. DEPARTMENT OF THE GULF,
New Orleans, May 15, 1862.

As the officers and soldiers of the United States have been subject to repeated insults from the women (calling themselves ladies) of New Orleans in return for the most scrupulous non-interference and courtesy on our part, it is ordered that hereafter when any female shall by word, gesture, or movement insult or show contempt for any officer or soldier of the United States she shall be regarded and held liable to be treated as a woman of the town plying her avocation.

"[M]ost scrupulous non-interference and courtesy on our part". Riiiight. And these virtuous 'liberators of the slaves' weren't too picky about who got raped:

"In the spring of 1863, John N. Williams of the 7th Tennessee Regiment wrote in his diary, “Heard from home. The Yankees has been through there. Seem to be their object to commit rape on every Negro woman they can find.” Many times, troops and ruffians raped black women while forcing white women to watch, a horrifying experience for all, and a proxy rape of white women. B. E. Harrison of Leesburg, Va., wrote a letter to President Abraham Lincoln complaining that federal troops had raped his “servant girl” in the presence of his wife. Gen. William Dwight reported, “Negro women were ravished in the presence of white women and children.” Just as the rape of white women implied that Southern men were unable to protect their mothers, wives and daughters, the rape of slave women told whites they could no longer protect their property".

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Nov 28, 2017 10:57:08   #
theotts
 
Piggie wanna wallow?


Larry the Legend wrote:
No, they did not. That wholly unprovoked war of northern aggression was fought over state's rights and the limits of federal power in a union of states. Of course, when many northern men failed to enlist, mostly because they knew the truth, Abraham Lincoln ('honest Abe', what a crock) started making noises about how the north had to 'free the slaves' and how it was a 'noble undertaking'. Well, it worked. Northern men swelled the ranks of the Union army and the rest is history. Funny fact, up to that time the Confederacy was kicking northern asses for fun.

From that day to this, the Confederate States of America are and have been conquered territory. At the conclusion of the war, the union army occupied the Confederate States, raping the women and stealing anything that was not nailed down. Not only did these actions go unpunished, they were actively encouraged by the senior officers in command;

The Infamous "Woman Order" of Occupied New Orleans, also known as General Benjamin Butler's Infamous General Orders No. 28:


HDQRS. DEPARTMENT OF THE GULF,
New Orleans, May 15, 1862.

As the officers and soldiers of the United States have been subject to repeated insults from the women (calling themselves ladies) of New Orleans in return for the most scrupulous non-interference and courtesy on our part, it is ordered that hereafter when any female shall by word, gesture, or movement insult or show contempt for any officer or soldier of the United States she shall be regarded and held liable to be treated as a woman of the town plying her avocation.

"[M]ost scrupulous non-interference and courtesy on our part". Riiiight. And these virtuous 'liberators of the slaves' weren't too picky about who got raped:

"In the spring of 1863, John N. Williams of the 7th Tennessee Regiment wrote in his diary, “Heard from home. The Yankees has been through there. Seem to be their object to commit rape on every Negro woman they can find.” Many times, troops and ruffians raped black women while forcing white women to watch, a horrifying experience for all, and a proxy rape of white women. B. E. Harrison of Leesburg, Va., wrote a letter to President Abraham Lincoln complaining that federal troops had raped his “servant girl” in the presence of his wife. Gen. William Dwight reported, “Negro women were ravished in the presence of white women and children.” Just as the rape of white women implied that Southern men were unable to protect their mothers, wives and daughters, the rape of slave women told whites they could no longer protect their property".
No, they did not. That wholly unprovoked war of n... (show quote)

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Nov 28, 2017 13:47:09   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
theotts wrote:
Piggie wanna wallow?


?

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Nov 28, 2017 14:18:03   #
theotts
 
The jeremiad to which I responded is a pastiche of savage ignorance, convoluted logic, and narcissistic self-indulgence. In sum, like a pig wallowing in ordure.
Larry the Legend wrote:
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Nov 28, 2017 14:34:34   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
theotts wrote:
The jeremiad to which I responded is a pastiche of savage ignorance, convoluted logic, and narcissistic self-indulgence. In sum, like a pig wallowing in ordure.


I see. So to put it another way, 'the long lament (pastiche) to which you responded is a copy of fierce, violent, and uncontrolled (savage) lack of knowledge or information (ignorance), and an excessive or erotic interest in oneself and one's physical appearance (Narcissistic) self-indulgence. In the total amount resulting from the addition of two or more numbers, amounts, or items (sum), like a pig rolling about or lying relaxed in mud or water, especially to keep cool, avoid biting insects, or spreading scent (wallowing) in excrement or dung (ordure)'.

Does that make any sense to anybody? Am I the only one who can't see what this is trying to say? Somebody, anybody, help me out here.

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Nov 28, 2017 16:40:23   #
theotts
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
I see. So to put it another way, 'the long lament (pastiche) to which you responded is a copy of fierce, violent, and uncontrolled (savage) lack of knowledge or information (ignorance), and an excessive or erotic interest in oneself and one's physical appearance (Narcissistic) self-indulgence. In the total amount resulting from the addition of two or more numbers, amounts, or items (sum), like a pig rolling about or lying relaxed in mud or water, especially to keep cool, avoid biting insects, or spreading scent (wallowing) in excrement or dung (ordure)'.

Does that make any sense to anybody? Am I the only one who can't see what this is trying to say? Somebody, anybody, help me out here.
I see. So to put it another way, 'the long lament ... (show quote)

You got most of the definitions wrong. Narcissism isn't erotic. Read your Bullfinch.
Wallowing is also a degraded species of self-indulgence, in no way connected to sensory experience.
You're why language has become coarse and without nuance.

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