out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State

We can no more "prove" the existence of God, then you can disprove it.. God left it as a matter of Faith and freewill, whether we choose life and light or darkness and death. To deny Gods existence in the face of all the evidence, the wonder, the intracacies of the Universe, requires a greater "faith" then to accept his creation. To humbly acknowledge that it reveals the reality of His existence. When you can prove he does not exist, using more than examples of the fallen nature of man, when you can reason away the impossibility of all that we see and experience as merely a biological accident... Well that won't happen, end of discussion.

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

You are right, Out of the Woods. We all have been given the right to choose life or death. Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice for our sins, as his shed blood cleanses us from all sin. God sent his only son to pay that sacrifice for all, not some, for all who believe. End of story is correct.

kankune Loc: Iowa

Yep.and I'll say a prayer for you too!

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Thank you Kankune. If I have spoken wrongly of you, please forgive me.
Joy

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Some people choose a side. Some ignore.
The ranchers chose their side, and stood up. More Christians could do the same.

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ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps

Using that attempt at logic by you, logically I could reply Nature is the wonder of God

As for you wondering what prompted you (a professed atheist) to wander in here. I suspect it was God twitching your whiskers. Listen to him, it will do you good.

Here; look deeply into his greatest creation known to man.... Unless that is; you think man is the creator of it....

If per chance you can admit you did not create the cosmos then consider just how small all of us are within it and then the big question which you must answer here would be: Who or what did create all this wonder?

kankune Loc: Iowa

No worries. : )

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Got your post confused with another. So sorry, I believe you are a believer in Christ also.
Thank you,
Joy

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Amen. Ghost gotcha

kankune Loc: Iowa

Yes Joy...I certainly am.. : )

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Good, at least there are several of us on this site. Just need more to seek him.

ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps

No doubt in my mind that The Lord gave us this majestic gift. Since I believe in the Trinity, I do not see man as part of it.
As far as the resident liberals who came on this thread to profess their lack of faith, I suggest the below best represents their manifesto of the earliest of life on our planet.

ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps

Admittedly in the form of a cartoon. Were I an atheist; I think I should think hard about the message within it.

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Thank you, Ghostgotcha, Love it!

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Ha ha, very true!
If they don’t don’t repent, and accept the sacrifice Jesus made for them, the wonderful free gift, they will be turned away. When Jesus says to them, depart from me, I never knew you. It will be too late. Like the rich man, and Lazarus when he died and the rich man died too, Lazarus was taken to Abraham's bosom, and the rich man to hell. The rich man wanted the Lord to let Lazarus dip his tongue with water as he was burning in that place, but as the Lord said, there is a gulf between you, so he asked him to please warn his brothers, Such an awesome God we serve. Hope they will remove the blinders from their eyes.