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Nov 26, 2017 13:53:42   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Kevyn wrote:
Prohibiting or establishing religion, allowing religion to encumber public body’s is establishing religion.


Promoting moral relativism degrades and corrupts everything in a society and affects everybody.

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Nov 26, 2017 14:26:19   #
maureenthannon
 
The phrase "Separation of church and state" is not in the Condtitution, it was lifted from a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Church. In the letter he wasn't telling the church to stay out of the government's business, but that the government would stay out of the church's business.

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Nov 26, 2017 14:51:15   #
imbobbyc Loc: Montana
 
Kevyn wrote:
Write, call and email Moore and do the same to media outlets across Alabama. Moore can bring the entire thing to closure in one hour. All he needs to do is demand a polygraph exam done by an independent agency. The only question any journalist should ask Moore is; are you willing to settle this by submitting to a polygraph?


Prove yourself innocent No Problem. However, maybe the accuser should be the first to take a polygraph. Just saying

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Nov 26, 2017 16:18:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Kevyn wrote:
In no way do I want him to have abused those children, if they could have been spared their suffering at the hands of a predator it would be wonderful. Unfortunately the hands of time can not be turned back so the best we can hope for is that they receive some comfort in him being held accountable. I would accept the results of a polygraph exam but it is irrelevant because he is a coward unwilling to submit himself to the test.


I imagine you’re an expert on cowardice. The polygraph test, though sounds good at first glance but would be a horrible tool for determining guilt or innocence. What a cluster f##k this could end up. Give all the players involved a polygraph? Some would be inconclusive. Some would be inaccurate. Some would show that people lied and people told the truth. There’s a reason the lie detector test is not admissible.

https://liedetectors-uk.com/how-accurate-is-the-polygraph/

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Nov 26, 2017 16:38:40   #
Kevyn
 
JFlorio wrote:
I imagine you’re an expert on cowardice. The polygraph test, though sounds good at first glance but would be a horrible tool for determining guilt or innocence. What a cluster f##k this could end up. Give all the players involved a polygraph? Some would be inconclusive. Some would be inaccurate. Some would show that people lied and people told the truth. There’s a reason the lie detector test is not admissible.

https://liedetectors-uk.com/how-accurate-is-the-polygraph/
If it is good enough for Jerry Springer it is certainly good enough for Moore.

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Nov 26, 2017 16:41:17   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Kevyn wrote:
If it is good enough for Jerry Springer it is certainly good enough for Moore.


Figures you’d be a fan of Springer.

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Nov 26, 2017 18:29:44   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
JFlorio wrote:
Polygraph's unfortunately are not 100% reliable.


And, if you have the juice, you can learn to beat the test every time.

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Nov 26, 2017 18:44:18   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
JFlorio wrote:
Figures you’d be a fan of Springer.


I suspect it's his daily dose of intellectualism and a place where he learns rhetoric.

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Nov 26, 2017 18:52:33   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Probably where his mom and dad met.
padremike wrote:
I suspect it's his daily dose of intellectualism and a place where he learns rhetoric.

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Nov 26, 2017 18:57:55   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
JFlorio wrote:
I imagine you’re an expert on cowardice. The polygraph test, though sounds good at first glance but would be a horrible tool for determining guilt or innocence. What a cluster f##k this could end up. Give all the players involved a polygraph? Some would be inconclusive. Some would be inaccurate. Some would show that people lied and people told the truth. There’s a reason the lie detector test is not admissible.

https://liedetectors-uk.com/how-accurate-is-the-polygraph/

While all that may be true, I still think it would be interesting to see which of the players would volunteer to take a polygraph. Of course even that wouldn't be conclusive, but I might be willing to change my opinion about some of the doubtful ones based on their willingness to put their veracity to the test. And if they followed through and passed the test, I would definitely be inclined to believe them, even though it wouldn't prove that they were telling the truth.

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Nov 26, 2017 19:00:19   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
It’s a no win situation. Take Moore for example. He takes the test and passes. I guarantee kevy and his ilk would then say he’s a sociopath and beat the machine.
LAPhil wrote:
While all that may be true, I still think it would be interesting to see which of the players would volunteer to take a polygraph. Of course even that wouldn't be conclusive, but I might be willing to change my opinion about some of the doubtful ones based on their willingness to put their veracity to the test. And if they followed through and passed the test, I would definitely be inclined to believe them, even though it wouldn't prove that they were telling the truth.

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Nov 26, 2017 19:05:43   #
EmilyStrode
 
JFlorio wrote:
It’s a no win situation. Take Moore for example. He takes the test and passes. I guarantee kevy and his ilk would then say he’s a sociopath and beat the machine.


Voting for Moore is the main definition of moral relativism

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Nov 26, 2017 19:10:56   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
EmilyStrode wrote:
Voting for Moore is the main definition of moral relativism

You make some very interesting posts, and that was one of them. Could you elaborate on that?

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Nov 26, 2017 19:18:13   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
EmilyStrode wrote:
Voting for Moore is the main definition of moral relativism


Why thank you Mrs. Webster.

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Nov 26, 2017 21:18:14   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
EmilyStrode wrote:
Voting for Moore is the main definition of moral relativism


In other words hang the guilty SOB right after a fair trial? It is a dangerous downward leap you're making by convicting someone based upon allegations only. Are you allowing any chance for innocence? This would not be the first time Democrats pulled this dirty trick out of their nasty bag.

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