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Nov 23, 2017 14:03:13   #
Morgan
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"So far as I know in America a person accused is presumed innocent...depending on who they are, unfortunately." Hillary & Obama




That 's the ideology of it, not the reality, and why we have the largest number of incarcerated people in the world. Arresting people has turned into another profit-making enterprise.

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Nov 23, 2017 14:03:43   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Morgan wrote:
Why can't it be stopped? It is certainly within our power to change things, as many have said already from his own party, he should step aside and when this mess has been cleared, he could run again in the next election.


Why? ....someone's testimony to the press isn't a court of law.

The court of public opinion isn't an objective place to make your case. In fact, it is unlikely that it can be tried because even if the women have clean records no the jury of their peers can possibly make a unbiased decision.

If the the "fine" people of Alabama want to vote for a child molester, all the more reason to let them do it. Then we can laugh at them, and continue to treat like the fools they are.

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Nov 23, 2017 14:04:37   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Morgan wrote:
That 's the ideology of it, not the reality, and why we have the largest number of incarcerated people in the world. Arresting people has turned into another profit-making enterprise.


There's a lawsuit being filed by illegals for making them work for a pennies a day while they wait for their hearings.

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Nov 23, 2017 14:07:26   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I know, it is so easy to believe a liar that's a judge, than woman who has nothing to gain from telling the truth. Not complicated at all.


DB, I gotta say that I've really enjoyed reading you, and Kevvy tag teaming on the hate, and ugliness today. Keep it up guys! It's worked so well so far, huh?

Gotta go. Folks with lots of guns coming out for food& fun, and a perfect day for it here.

Happy Thanksgiving DB, and your other brother Kevvy! Can't wait to tell you Merry Christmas!

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Nov 23, 2017 14:14:47   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Why? ....someone's testimony to the press isn't a court of law.

The court of public opinion isn't an objective place to make your case. In fact, it is unlikely that it can be tried because even if the women have clean records no the jury of their peers can possibly make a unbiased decision.

If the the "fine" people of Alabama want to vote for a child molester, all the more reason to let them do it. Then we can laugh at them, and continue to treat like the fools they are.
Why? ....someone's testimony to the press isn't a ... (show quote)



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Nov 23, 2017 14:26:48   #
Morgan
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Why? ....someone's testimony to the press isn't a court of law.

The court of public opinion isn't an objective place to make your case. In fact, it is unlikely that it can be tried because even if the women have clean records no the jury of their peers can possibly make a unbiased decision.

If the the "fine" people of Alabama want to vote for a child molester, all the more reason to let them do it. Then we can laugh at them, and continue to treat like the fools they are.
Why? ....someone's testimony to the press isn't a ... (show quote)


I believe your answer to my "why" question has intersected with the topic I was having with Mike on why can't things change, speaking of the election, as I'm not following your answer to me,....someone's testimony to the press isn't a court of law.
my apologies.

I would hate any local municipality to be under the misguided influence of a deviant representative. When he goes to Congress he is representing all those people including the ones that didn't vote for him.

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Nov 23, 2017 14:29:47   #
Morgan
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
There's a lawsuit being filed by illegals for making them work for a pennies a day while they wait for their hearings.


As far as I know, working for someone is still a choice, if your an illegal where would you have a right to stand on?

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Nov 23, 2017 14:55:24   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
archie bunker wrote:
DB, I gotta say that I've really enjoyed reading you, and Kevvy tag teaming on the hate, and ugliness today. Keep it up guys! It's worked so well so far, huh?

Gotta go. Folks with lots of guns coming out for food& fun, and a perfect day for it here.

Happy Thanksgiving DB, and your other brother Kevvy! Can't wait to tell you Merry Christmas!


We did it our hunting Monday thru Wednesday. The kids have blood tattoos on their shoulders from shooting. They didn't care if they hit anything, they just enjoyed shooting.

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Nov 23, 2017 14:56:39   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Morgan wrote:
As far as I know, working for someone is still a choice, if your an illegal where would you have a right to stand on?


They are being incarcerated in a profit prison. They are doing work for pennies so that corporations can pretend to be giving their tax dollars to a good cause.

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Nov 23, 2017 14:57:59   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Morgan wrote:
I believe your answer to my "why" question has intersected with the topic I was having with Mike on why can't things change, speaking of the election, as I'm not following your answer to me,....someone's testimony to the press isn't a court of law.
my apologies.

I would hate any local municipality to be under the misguided influence of a deviant representative. When he goes to Congress he is representing all those people including the ones that didn't vote for him.


Then why did we let Trump win? Why did Bill Clinton get off the hook?

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Nov 23, 2017 15:07:23   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
OK, since your learning is remedial at best, let me explain! Reagan once said "church and state must remain separate"! What he meant was "keep that nonsense out of public schools."




Obviously he listened to our greatest founding father!


You guys always talk about the separation of church and state this quote Jefferson made and are totally clueless as to who he made that statement too and it's reason and for the upteen time it is not in the Constitution !

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Nov 23, 2017 15:27:30   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Nonsense


Watch. If I'm wrong you can rib me later, right?

However! If you look back over the last three years of my prognostications I've done pretty darn well.

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Nov 23, 2017 15:47:54   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Morgan wrote:
That 's the ideology of it, not the reality, and why we have the largest number of incarcerated people in the world. Arresting people has turned into another profit-making enterprise.


I've been to prison twice. Got extradited from CA to FL the first time. Did three years parole, 1 year house arrest, more years on probation and more times in jail than I can remember. I know exactly how the system works. I went to college after I got out of CA state prison Norco. I did two papers on the prison industrial complex and how people get sucked into it. I also happened to be in prison when Grey Davis was recalled for letting the state go bankrupt ( ). The irony was that at that time, when they were laying off teachers, the CCPOA had landed a 30% pay raise over three years. Who gets a deal like that? The most powerful (yes the most powerful) union in the state, that's who.

My experience has given me a perspective most folks don't have. I became a certified adult tutor in the educational section and found out I was pretty good at it. The guys from other races tended to trust me which helped a lot. Some things I couldn't help notice were:

1) Only about half of the people in the prison I was at had a HS diploma and a bout half of them were functionally illiterate.

2) A surprisingly large percentage of these guys were ADHD, dyslexic or tactile learners (who the schools in CA had no idea what to do with). Big surprise, eh?

3) The real deal is how they end up there to begin with and why they keep going back. Florida state prison in the 80s...again, while I was there is a great example of how crazy the prison system gets.

(Short story: at that time they were under a court order to reduce the prison population so what they did, since prisoners in transport are not part of the count, at count time every prison would load a school bus or two of prisoners and drive them around until count time was over...no kidding! )

I'm a good boy now! All I do is smoke weed!

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Nov 23, 2017 17:37:44   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
E wrote:
You're new here so I won't try to hit you to hard. We have discussed a lot of those issues over time and there are valid point is there. But I would like to bring up one comment you made that just has to be commented on.

"his pal Jeffery Epstein is on record for what they both did as well as the woman he hired (to get minors) for their "parties." Sorry but it's a hard pill to swallow. >>> For years now I have heard about Bill Clinton and over fifteen trips to Epsteins private island where supposedly there were large orgies with underage girls. Hilliary Clinton also supposedly went there. These are on air craft manifests. Bill Clinton also supposedly ditched his Secret Service to attend. I think that if you bring up Epstein, you really need to start with Bill Clinton. Just saying.

Meanwhile, welcome to OPP.
You're new here so I won't try to hit you to hard.... (show quote)


Point taken thanks for the heads up and the welcome.it seems we learn more about Bill's escapades every day.
true more about those points need to be dicussed further being none are actually being acted on.
Oh and Happy Thankgiving .

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Nov 23, 2017 17:51:52   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...until you're molested by a an adult that you are supposed to trust.

Ya know, like all of the accidental shootings by cops.


Not to dismiss actions of child abuse at all, if they did it put them under the jail..

How many accidental shooting are you alluding to here?? I don’t believe in accidentally shooting someone, do you??

The margin of true accidental shooting usually involve minors finding a gun and dislodging it without even knowing what they did..

A cop shooting someone is never accidental though..

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