ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

Liberals Attack Pledge of Allegiance



Liberals have seemingly laid out a plan to completely disrupt the entire foundation of the United States. Members of the Democratic Party have attacked nearly every ideology the nation was founded on, ranging from the Declaration of Independence to statues and important monuments throughout the country. Even the statue of Christopher Columbus in New York City is the target of attacks from individuals who want the monument toppled and destroyed. However, it has now taken another turn, with liberals publicly attacking the Pledge of Allegiance.

When going through the Pledge of Allegiance, there is no bigotry within the text of the pledge. It is straight forward and to the point. Despite this, liberals are saying there are racist connotations behind the pledge and, due to this, the pledge either needs to be changed or scraped altogether.

This is just the latest push by liberals to attack the foundation of the country and alter it to fit their desires and plans. While the Pledge of Allegiance was originally written in 1887 and revised in 1892, it was adopted by Congress in 1945, following the end of the Second World War.

With very little of the Pledge of Allegiance changing over the years (the phrase “under God” was added in 1954), why are liberals suddenly having an issue with it now?

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

It gives them something new to cry about when their other reasons crash and burn.

The poor dummies even had a screaming party and behaved like spoiled brats in a temper tantrum.

Carol Kelly

Carol Kelly

If Congress sits still for this, we are totally lost. Period.

solarkin

Congress is the Problem.

PeterS

First off, ideology is a political philosophy--our nation wasn't founded on a political philosophy. Second, what attack on the Declaration of Independence are you talking about? As for the Pledge. All we are attacking is the addition of the phrase "under god" We are fine with the pledge. We just think that since the founders didn't include "under god" in anything why should we?

PeterS

Then why are you the ones who are crying. My eyes are dry as a bone...

Randy131 Loc: Florida

It was always said that the USA could only be conquered from within, and this is an attack from within, as is the NFL debacle. How will the defeat be achieved? By good people doing nothing and saying it is the right of those who hate what we've long stood for, now to disrespect and dishonor our nation, our National Anthem, the American Flag and all the people who served and died for this nation in order to keep it free. So I guess these idiots believe these people have the right to destroy the USA, it's culture and society, so they won't do anything about it. The people living in the USA with no appreciation for what this once great nation once stood for, are now destroying our culture and society by attacking and destroying our nationalism and patriotism, saying that nationalism is evil, but intelligent people know that without it, no nation can long endure. Complacency in allowing this to occur will destoy us from within.

PeterS

How is this an attack from within? "Under god" is an add on. I thought conservatives believed in tradition? Sad to think that you no longer do...

Randy131 Loc: Florida

Conservatives do believe in tradition that has proven to be the driving force of the success of our nation, and therefore do not want it changed, but adding to it with other similar traditions, as "under GOD", since the 'Declaration of Independence' declares we owe for our unalienable endowed Rights, is not changing anything, but adding to what has already been expressed in a founding document of the USA.

You see, the reason we oppose you liberals is because you want to change our legacy and heritage that made us and this nation so great, and if we add to that legacy and heritage, that compliments what you demand to be changed, you liberals raise hell and say stupid things that make you look like fools and antiAmerican to us Christian conservatives.

Think of why we want to preserve our legacy and heritage, and don't mind adding to them, things that won't change them, but only enhances them, but we refuse to change what has made us great, which your problem is that you want to change what made us great, not add to it.

Why don't you try to think of things that could be added to our traditions, legacy, and heritage, that will work in conjuntion with and enhance those things that made us great, instead of always wanting to change what made us great. What you liberals always want to change to, have already been proven failures all around the world, judged not by just the existence of all those being forced to live under those failures, but the conditions of how they must live and what freedoms they are allowed to better themselves, which socialism and communism has never ever lived up to, even though hundreds of millions have been forced to live under those initiative killing forms of governmemt. Ask yourself why they are being forced, instead of wanting to live under those forms of government, that you want to change our capitalistic and free market forms of government to.

PeterS

My creator was Nature. How about you? And if you put god down it does change quite a bit, especially for those who believe Nature the one who created them. That would be the reason for the objection.

And believe me, the founders were smart enough that if they wanted "God" inserted they would have said God. That we are left with a lowly creator meant that they left it up to us to interpret--which of course, is what we all did...


All you Christian Conservatives want to do is create a legacy that never was. If we were to be founded as a Christian Nation then I am pretty sure the founders would have said so. You're the ones who bastardized everything thinking you could stick in god where ever you wanted. Look at any of our coins or paper money and was there any mention of 'under god' Do you think the founders incapable of writing those words if they thought we a nation founded under such divinity? "Under god" is not a tradition, except one thought up by you.


Those things that made us great? Well, secularism gave us freedom and I always thought it was the principle of freedom that made ours one of the greatest nations. As for being a free-market. Trump was elected because you cons wanted him to instill tariffs as part of a trade war. We are a mixed economy and have been since the twenties and not even you guys want a free market otherwise you would have never voted for Donald J Trump would you!!!

PeterS

What I think the Declaration is, is a list of grievances that justify our separation from England. In was, in essence, our first legal document stating why we were justified in separating from England.

A political ideology on the other hand forms a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy. You didn't find that in our Declaration of Independence--hell, you didn't even find that in our constitution...



The founders didn't come up with that. That was John Locke. An Englishman who lived about 70 years before. And Locke had much more influence on the Founders then did god. I would suggest you read the Lockes Second Treatise on Government, especially chapter 2, the State of Nature...http://www.earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/locke1689a.pdf


England was a theocracy as was France. Than there was the Vatican--no greater theocracy than there. If the founders wanted a theocracy they would have spelled it out. That you have to do it for them means that that's what you want not what they intended.



They added God because it was the 50's and everyone was terrified of the godless communists. How old are you Randy? You read like you are about 16 with the comprehension level of a 9th grader. I'll give you some slack now but you have some serious catching up to do. Start with Locke. Give him a read and when you've finished I'll add to your reading list.

Carol Kelly

You've got that right!

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Just for your information, God is a proper noun in this instance and therefore is spelt with a capital 'G', as in 'God'. Using the lower case instance, as in 'god', infers reference to an object, not a being (as in 'a god', or 'the god'). I know it can be confusing, but I'm sure you'll get the hang of it if you try.

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

peters: Which group do you belong to? The foreign or domestic enemy?