permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You are so mis guided... Her are a couple truthful reports about each of them..


PENNSYLVANIA REAL-TIME NEWS
What is Trump's real record at Wharton?

Updated on February 19, 2017 at 7:52 AM Posted on February 19, 2017 at 7:20 AM
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President Donald Trump speaks during a news conference, Thursday, Feb. 16, 2017, in the East Room of the White House in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
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By Candy Woodall cwoodall@pennlive.com
Shortly after Donald Trump questioned President Barack Obama's legitimacy as a U.S. citizen, he challenged his academic record.

"I heard [Obama] was a terrible student, terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?" Trump said in an April 2011 interview with The Associated Press. "I'm thinking about it, I'm certainly looking into it. Let him show his records."

During the February 2011 Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump said, "The people that went to school with him, they never saw him, they don't know who he is. It's crazy."

Pulitizer Prize-winning website Politifact rated Trump's statement as a "pants on fire" lie.

All queries and the Politifact report show Obama's time at those Ivy League schools was well documented and represented honestly.

Obama graduated from Columbia University in 1983 with a degree in political science and graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School in 1991. He was also the first black president of the Harvard Law Review.

University of Pennsylvania records and documents uncovered by the school's student newspaper, The Daily Pennsylvanian, show it's President Trump's academic record that is now in question.

For decades, the national media has reported that Trump graduated "first in his class" at Wharton, often confusing his undergraduate degree with the Ivy League university's top-ranked MBA program.


In 1973 and 1976, the New York Times reported that Trump graduated first in his class in 1968 from the Wharton School of Finance.

During campaign stops in Pennsylvania, Trump frequently said he was "a very smart guy" and knew the state well because he went to Wharton.

When PennLive tried to delve into his academic record in the summer, a school spokesman said it's university policy to not release such information other than confirming graduation.

In Gwenda Blair's 2001 book, "The Trumps: Three Generations of Builders and a President," she said Trump transferred into Wharton from Fordham University with help from family connections. The president's older brother, Freddy Trump, knew an admissions counselor at Wharton, she said.

That book and some reports in the 1980s claimed Trump didn't graduate first in his class and didn't graduate with honors.

A 1968 commencement program shared Friday by the Daily Pennsylvanian backs that up. It shows that Trump graduated from the undergraduate school of finance and commerce, but he did not graduate at the top of his class or with honors.

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The Daily Pennsylvanian also interviewed alumni from Trump's graduating class. Some remembered him as professional, focused and "different from the rest of his class."

Others suggested he was always more interested in real estate in New York than his time at Penn.


Is Donald Trump correct that President Barack Obama was not academically qualified for admission to an Ivy League school without affirmative action?

Trump is not correct. Obama had good grades through most of his academic career and his grades got better the further he went. It was Trump who needed affirmative action to get into college:

1. According to Electopedia, Obama was a B-student in high school and the worst grade he got was a D in French:

How They Did in High School

2. After high school, he went to Occidental College. Occidental College has no GPA requirement for acceptance and puts most of their emphasis on test scores and character issues, so there was no affirmative action was required for Obama to get acceptance there.

Admission Chances, SAT and ACT Scores, GPA and Requirements

3. Obama had a 3.3 GPA at Occidental College and then transferred to Columbia. Columbia has a high acceptance rate for transfer students and he had no trouble gaining acceptance. No affirmative action required there.

Obama’s LSAT Score To Take The Fire From | QS LEAP

4. At Columbia, Obama had a GPA of 3.7 and had no trouble being accepted into the Harvard Law School. No affirmative action was required to get into Harvard.

College transcripts replace birth certificate for Obama detractors

5. Obama graduated from Harvard magna cum laude from Harvard Law in 1991. He was the first African American to be elected editor of the Harvard Law Review.

Barack Obama

6. The bottom line is that Trump's statement is provably false. There is no evidence he needed or used affirmative action to get into any college.

What’s funny is that there is evidence that Trump used a “rich person’s affirmative action” because Trump only got into Wharton with "family connections." He also graduated with no honors, while Obama graduated suma cum laude:

What is Trump's real record at Wharton?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I believe the article was speaking about the late 40s. right after the war.. I may have cut that part off.. Sorry.

Radiance3

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All Obama got was due to the "Affirmative Action" law that helped him, and until today the advantage of blacks to enter college and get jobs, ahead of Whites and Asians who have much higher qualifications.

No proof of any school records had Obama presented when he run for president. Why was that? All his school records, true BC, and his citizenship sealed. He spent millions of dollars to keep it sealed from the American people.
Why is that?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Why should Obama have to show those records they are personal and no law requires they be shown..

Any past President who released collage records were voluntary or leaked..

No tradition of releasing them.. Unlike tax returns which go back for every candidate for generations.

And if you had read what I posted, you would have known the Obama did not travel by "affirmative Action". He did not need it..

the orange slime on the other hand got accepted via his fathers contribution to the school.. That is the rich mans "Affirmative Action"

Loki Loc: Georgia

He is currently worth over 3 billion. One million. Three thousand million.

Gener

So how is he different than any other president?

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

[quote=permafrost][quote=Mr Shako]So what was Trump's grade in Kelley's class? Did Kelley flunk him? Give him a D or a Gentleman's C? An F? What were his overall grades at Penn? Did other professors hold the same low esteem of Trump as Kelley did? Did Trump get his degree? Does Wharton give out its prestigious diplomas "willy-nilly?" Was this the case with Trump? Do his classmates remember him sitting in their class? Do you honestly believe Trump would have made as much $$$ as he has by being an "idiot" or a "moron" as you say he was...and still is? It doesn't pass the "smell test" does it..particularly when you're quoting something from from the Daily Kos!



In case you missed it...FDR was no balla fire at Hahvid, either![/quo





If he had done nothing with the buildings daddy gave him, odds are, he would be worth more the he has now.

After 6 bankruptcies and depending on trade name to keep his ultra rich status.. refused NFL membership and American bank turning down his loans..

He must be extraemly stressed up to pull up old debunked news as diversion..[/quote]

Will you libs please get your act together and decide how many times Trump has gone bankrupt? I've heard from 3 to 11. The fact is that he has never filed bankruptcy so can you at least get together and decide which false number to agree on?

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Bush set the trend to spend so.it's his fault? Are you related to.Hillary? You.blame everyone like she does.

If the trend by Obama was to jump off am bridge, would you?

Or do you think that people should be held accountable for their own actions?

How is your secession coming along?

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Depends on who he shot.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Don't hold your breath waiting. Your party is coming unglued and most of its leaders will be in prison before long.

TRAVii

I'm a Republican, but we can do a lot better than Donald Trump!!

Radiance3

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Except Obama, all prior presidents have released their records, including military service.
Except Obama who hides. And he does not have military records, or any military training.
Obama spent more than $1 million to seal any of his records.

No presidents or anybody are required to disclose tax returns, unless they volunteer, or subpoena by the IRS.

Oldsalt

Floyd, you know not of what you speak. The reason DJTrump was elected was because he speaks plainly. He understands that the American electorate is fed up with the wordsmiths that have polluted DC for the last 40+ years. We want our country back, no more foreign invaders by the millions milking us dry from their constant drain on our social services. No more watch "refugees " come here and demand that we change our culture to suit them. No more having politicians referring to law abiding gun owners as criminals because we enjoy the shooting sports, no more demonization for clinging to our guns,God, and culture. No more being taxed to death to prop up dictators in Africa, no more seeing our industries taxed until they are driven off shore, no more watching American companies bringing in foreigners to take our jobs and then having them bring in their offspring to slowdown the classes with our children and grandchildren in them. Trump was Americans giving D.C. a mandate, and patience be damned we're done waiting. The tar is heating and we've plucked the feathers. If this isn't cleaned up by the end of Trumps first term you can expect to see marches on Washington with torches and pitchforks.

Radiance3

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You don't belong to this country. That is why you have no loyalty. You defend violence, ANTIFA, CAIR, ISLAM, thugs and drug dealers, leftists and democrats with no morals.

You are even so stupid to understand that nobody, even presidents are required to disclose their tax returns, unless they voluntary disclose it, or unless there is subpoena from the government.

President Trump paid $150 million in Federal Taxes in 2016. That included Federal Income tax, property tax, Unemployment tax for his employees, Medicare and Social Security tax for his 10,000 employees, Business and occupation tax, sales tax.
The million dollars he paid in taxes are all eaten by the democrat free loaders like you, and many other democrat handouts.

vettelover Loc: Richmond Va

Fake