Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

By constantly attacking the man on all levels, you prevent him from doing his job. In turn you use a double standard. You go according to the philosophy, it is alright to attack the president, even threaten to kill him, but it is not right when the president fights this fire with fire. It's hypocrisy.

You asked the question, "What do we do now?", the answer is quite simple. Instead of insulting the president, why don't you go to work and work. Work with the president. I hated the decisions that Obama made, and yes, I presented evidence that gave the people a right to go to war. However, I was observing how Obama divided the country and polarized the two sides. But the conservatives are slow to action, because the conservatives have a conscience, and do not want to put forth a wasted effort.

However, how did the protest in Chancellorsville help America? All that protest did, was show how divided we are as a nation. And that protest no matter what side you are on divided the nation. How does the NFL protest help America? It doesn't. Where is the concrete work that needs to be done so change is inevitable?

Now, Trump used an old philosophy, if the people are working, and they are enjoying their work, and they are being paid for their work, then they will be happy. This brings greatness to the work that is done. Obama did not create jobs but rather chased manufacturing overseas. This really isn't Obama's fault, but he continued what Clinton and Bush had done. Where as Trump has done something that has not been done since FDR, which is start the working machine up again.

After WWI, we called it the "roaring twenties". Yet here it is, 100 years later and we are entering into another period of the "roaring twenties". The "roaring twenties" which ended with the stock market crash of 1929, when Roosevelt was finally able to reinvent the system. Well a stock market crash, the likes of 1929 is not needed. It already happened with the Housing market collapse, and the collapse of the auto industry, and the collapse of the banking industry. Where all these industries were given bailouts which resulted in the arrest of a 1929 collapse.

Trump is reinventing the way capitalism is performed. This is a good thing. However, he is blocked mostly by fearful people. Distractions like, "Russian collusion" (which was caused by Hillary Clinton and not Donald Trump), and various other attacks, have proven to be unsubstantiated, but attempted to destroy the reputation of the President. However, none of the unsubstantiated attacks damaged Trump, but rather these attacks, hurt the attacker. Foolish attempts on many levels. Yet the hardheadedness of the left and the empathy of the right, has caused this problem.

So again I ask my fellow Americans, no matter how much you complain about the splinter in your brothers eye, until the plank is removed from your own eye, and until the splinter is removed from your brother's eye, the pain will remain. This 'pain' is the innocent suffering of our fellow countrymen. So is it better to destroy the body for the sake of the plank or splinter, or is it better to destroy the splinter and plank, so the body can live?

It is dumb for reporters to report as news idiot gossip. "I'm better than you" philosophy never accomplished anything, if it did, tell me one time it did. We tell our kids not to judge a book by a cover, yet the liberals judge volumes of books by that very same cover. They describe how disgusting the cover appears, yet this disgusting looking cover, contains the most wise words ever written. So do we cut off the wise words because of the cover, or do we read the book?

This whole topic is about giving Trump a chance. But the liberals refuse to do so. This blasted hostile refuse is going to hurt our fellow countrymen and women but I suppose to the liberals it is okay to sacrifice some for all. I know one liberal, Gabriel Giffords, Representative of Arizona, who stood up against her own party, when California called for a boycott of Arizona. When then governor Jan Brewer laughed at California and said, "If California boycotts Arizona, Arizona will cut off California's electrical power"

Giffords was on the side of Jan Brewer and called for a stop for the boycot. Unfortunately a week or so later, she was shot. Is this what you all want? I recommend that we, all of us, work with the president rather than against him. He's reaching out to all Americans, who will answer the call?

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

I guess the foreman must hammer the wood, while the worker watches.....Is that how it works to build a building?

Trump is the executive, and he told Congress to get the job done, Congress can't make up their minds, so Trump wrote executive orders. They went through. While Congress is still scratching their heads. Uh, I think Trump is doing his job, Congress is not.

PeterS

Well, if he's such a wonderful president then why aren't they legislating?

Lonewolf

Every time Obama wrote an EO all,I heard was it's unconstitutional and many of Obama's EO were geared at helping Americans, not the top 1%.
things like clean air, water making sure banks can't crash the economy again.
trumps focus is giveing billions to people who don't need it.
Almost a year no wall no healthcare, no immigration reform and no tax reform and his way to acomplishig these things is attack members of congress and any one else in his sights.
Now some real truth everything that is happening for the most part was brought on by trump himself. He will tweet his way out of the WH

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

What has one to do with the other?

One steers, the other does the work. Trump is steering. Congress can't decide what to have for lunch.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Allow me to explain something.

EOs that double our national debt help no one. You see the problem is that in the short term you liked Obama's EOs. In the long term as those bills come due, you won't. Liberal philosophy says "let's feel good today and let someone else worry about paying the.bills, we can blame them".

Lonewolf

Trumps tax plan raises the debt by over a trillion dollars.nothing changed just a different party


quote=Docadhoc]Allow me to explain something.

EOs that double our national debt help no one. You see the problem is that in the short term you liked Obama's EOs. In the long term as those bills come due, you won't. Liberal philosophy says "let's feel good today and let someone else worry about paying the.bills, we can blame them".[/quote]

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

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Can't win for losing can you?

You were talking EO's and when that backfired on you, you want to shift focus to tax plans.

It doesn't matter. Whatever happens you have zero influence on the.outcome and will go along for the ride because you have no other choice. So cry.

Anyway you cut it, you lose.

There are only 2 options.

1. Continue as you are right into oblivion.

2. Cut your loses and work with the winners.

Your choice

Lonewolf

I liked the eo's that helped keep our air and water clean,I also liked to regulations put on banks and wall street so thay don't tank our encomy, I liked the eo' on preventing credit card companies raising your rates sky hi just because your a day late.
tax plan we have a PISS pore business man who has gone bankrupt 4 times.
His tax plan lowers the government's income to give people who don't need it a tax break.
this is how you add trillions to our debt.
America lost when trump disgraced the office of president following in the steps of George bush



quote=Docadhoc]Can't win for losing can you?

You were talking EO's and when that backfired on you, you want to shift focus to tax plans.

It doesn't matter. Whatever happens you have zero influence on the.outcome and will go along for the ride because you have no other choice. So cry.

Anyway you cut it, you lose.

There are only 2 options.

1. Continue as you are right into oblivion.

2. Cut your loses and work with the winners.

Your choice[/quote]

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

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You say Trump has filed bankruptcy 4x. Some libs say 8. Others 3 and yet others 11.

The fact is that he has filed bankruptcy 0x and if you understood more you'd understand that.

Another fact is that you libs talk so much that you confuse each other and can't keep your stories straight. All of you make up garbage as you go but you don't bother to tell each other what you've said to other people so you contradict each other endlessly.

You don't know what you"re talking about.

Clean water is a good thing but inventing EOs that make it impossible to adhere to only kills business. Less business may indeed pollute water less but it is about the stupidest way possible to clean up anything.

The problem with you libs is that you only look at short term and consider only part of the picture. None of you will assume the responsibility of your actions and if it feels good today that's all you care about.

8 years of your childish feel good management and you nearly bankrupted the entire country but you want to whine about incorrect stories regarding Trump bankruptcies.

Typical. Don't take responsibility for your decisions when there are so many other people you can blame for whatever you can think of. Anything except being responsible for what you do.

That's why you are on the outside looking in now and until you learn to think of everyone and not.just yourself, that's where you'll stay.

The people who pay the bills are the people who make America work. Without them you have nothing. They are the ones you have ignored and they are the ones who fired you.

Lonewolf

Do you bow to the people who pay the bills my guess is yes!
You're serious we ignored billionaires how sad, so the pore Koch brothers who make 60 billion a year need a brake bs.
You got a mighty poor or selective memory that you don't remember the utter mess George Bush left this Country in losing over 400thousand jobs a month banks failing and 10 of thousands losing their homes, automakers going under!
The job growth today is still from Obama's policies.
I know trump didn't personally go bankrupt but 4 of his business did the same thing piss poor businessman.
I always chose to lead by example so tell me how is he going to make America great by selling you hats made in China.
So if you need to help a billionaire feel free to give him your life savings and your kid's lunch money because that's what they want!.
I bow to no man I worked for everything I have and owe nothing.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

You are so out of contact and obsessed with ignorant PR it is pathetic.

The people who pay the bills are the working middle class. You know? The ones who fired you and put Trump in office!

The ones who could no longer afford your ignorance.

The ones paying through the nose so you can have your free Obamacare. The ones who you put on part time work and forced into foodstamps due to absolute idiot Obamacare regulations. The ones you put out of work altogether with your moronic regulations that drove big business to other countries. The ones who lost their jobs and their small businesses due to even more of your half wit regulations.

The first time in our history that more businesses folded than new ones started up. All due to YOU!

Those are the people who make the country run. Given a few more years of your childish feel good administration, they are the ones who would no longer be able to keep this country alive. Then you all can start blaming each other for a change.

THOSE PEOPLE DOPE!

And you're worried about hats.

Why don't you figure out why we have so many products here from other countries. That requires critical thought not whining over nonsense.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

LOLOLOLOL!

PeterS

Trumps the one who's been isolating key senators. He will never build a voting collation by mocking and denigrating the very people he needs to pass his legislation. The simple fact is, Trump doesn't know how to legislate. Add that to the list of things he doesn't know, and doesn't want to learn, about being president...

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Whatever floats your boat Pete. In the meantime they are dropping like flies. Now WaPo has turned on Hillary. It's called cutting their losses. Lotsa good stuff coming out. You can't hide it forever. We told ya. News at 11.

As the truth is being revealed, Trump is coming.out on top.

He doesn't legislate. He isn't a politician. He is changing how D.C. works so you grading him according to the old yardstick doesn't work but if if makes you happy, that's nice.