EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast

Why be sorry. To be able to continue voting the benefactors into office is just graft, pure and simple.
The whole thing should be looked with a microscope and the truly needy and unable to work need to be helped. Everyone else find a job. Refusing to work or failing to look for work is grounds for disenrollment.

Ditto selling lobster tails,steaks and soft drinks as well as booze or beer on EBT cards should result in license suspension to operate a business. Personal penalties for even clerks that ring up sales of prohibited items are also in order.

There should be a list of acceptable items which can be bought on EBT cards posted by every cash register in America. Violations by the perps and those who aid and abet (sellers,clerks) need to be addressed.
I also mean a couple cases of toilet paper to be converted to cash is also out. Hire a couple crooks at a great salary if you want to find out what the scams are.
Reminds me of my state going to personalized plates and hired people to check the applications to ensure no dirty words sneaked through. Should of hired a couple ex sailors. We have a pretty good handle on said words.
Also no cash change allowed. No more putting a single grape on the belt for checkout and getting the balance on your card in cash to snort in your nose or poke in your arm.
During the great depression excess commodities were all that was available and people were glad to get them.
What I don't understand is if it is common knowledge all the scams that are being used against the system, why is very little being done to correct it. Can we say? Graft and corruption throughout like most government policies.

It is though we have to pay slackers for the privilege of living in the USA while they contribute nothing but more mouths to feed..

teabag09

Welcome aboard Red. Love your Ketch dude. It's a bit away so I'm assuming it's a Ketch and not a Yawl. Mike

teabag09

Don't be sorry! I 100% agree. Mike

acknowledgeurma

So people who collect Social Security shouldn't be allowed to vote?

EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast

May I remind you I personally paid into SS from 1951 to 1994. How is recovery of some of my money welfare?
Are you really that misinformed or just believe the totally stupid who call SS benefit entitlements. It is people like me that makes the thing work. Those presently working are ivesting in their future as well.

acknowledgeurma

Googling "do people get back more from social security than they paid in"

According to the institute's data, a two-earner couple receiving an average wage — $44,600 per spouse in 2012 dollars — and turning 65 in 2010 would have paid $722,000 into Social Security and Medicare and can be expected to take out $966,000 in benefits. Feb 1, 2013

But couples today:
Many of those retiring will have paid more into the coveted entitlement program than they will get back. ... Couples now in their early 40s will have forked over $808,000 in Social Security taxes by the time they retire, but get back only $703,000 in benefits. Apr 14, 2013

So average couple retiring in 2010 get about a 33% return over amount paid in, but couple in early 40s will get about 13% less. Maybe today's SS collectors should have their votes reduced by 33% and couple in 40s today have their votes increased by 13% when they retire.

Maybe you would like the system H.L.Hunt proposed in Alpaca, where older wealthier people get more votes.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2000/09/25/editorial3.html

dangerkitten061 Loc: Arizona

I'm not talking about SS. You paid into that, that's yours. I'm talking about the take, take, takers.

EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast

You obviously like Google. How's this?
(October 1, 2016 through September 30, 2017)

People In Household Maximum Monthly Allotment
1 $ 194
2 $ 357
3 $ 511
4 $ 649
5 $ 771
6 $ 925
7 $ 1,022
8 $ 1,169
Each additional person
$ 146

Adds pretty quick doesn't it? Don't forget that is every month. Not a bad salary for turning out a bunch of kids who are being injected into the welfare stream as well.

And don't forget the original SS witholding money we paid in went into an interest bearing account which was designed to be self sufficient until it was raided and reassigned to dead end projects. Amen.

acknowledgeurma

[Irony warning]
Boy those folks are livin' high on the hog!

Carol Kelly

I can totally see your point and agree with it. We have been enslaved by THEM.

kankune Loc: Iowa

Welcome Red Cloud. Enjoy the rollercoaster ride. : )

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

So agree. I have never received government aid of any kind. Worked since I was 15, never asked for help when it was just me and my 2 kids. Worked 2 jobs to make ends meet since my husband thought if he didn't pay child support, I would take him back. I would rather work the 2 jobs, which I did. I didn't ask for food stamps or aid for my children. I didn't have insurance. If we got sick we just had to get well. Didn't go to college, couldn't afford it. Had a fairly decent job, but no benefits to speak of. Now I only have ss and isn't much, but still won't try to lie and get aid. Makes me sick to see how bad our government is. All those fat cats in DC don't have a clue how it is out here in the real world.
They tax us to death, no ss raises, but they give themselves raises all the time. Wish they had to live like most of us, just trying to get by until your next check. Sure hope Trump Will continue to drain the swamp!

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"What liberties, in particular, are "the left" serious about undermining? Can you describe this "way of life"?" - acknowledgeurma

Thanks for asking, acknowledgeurma.

Something to think about; and then share. Help defend what America has left.
The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...
1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.
6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.
The PTB - Just added more control of the internet.
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.
Do changing words, change the end result? ... By using different words, is it all of a sudden OK to ignore or violate the provisions or intent of the Constitution of the united States of America?????
The people (politicians) who believe in the SOCIALISTIC and COMMUNISTIC concepts, especially those who pass more and more laws implementing these slavery ideas, are traitors to their oath of office and to the Constitution of the united States of America...
None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free....


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GmanTerry

I totally agree. However Maryland has a city where the City Council just voted to allow illegal aliens to vote in city elections. The country has gone bonkers crazy.

Semper Fi

kankune Loc: Iowa

Why should the city counsel have the right to do that. They are not legal citizens and should not have the right to vote. Just sayin......