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Feb 2, 2014 00:31:26   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
MrEd wrote:
Now that is one gutsy lady. I also agree with every word she wrote. Way to go!!!!


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Didn't you read further on this this letter is a lie? Check through the forum. This is what occurs when people, who don't think, but react emotionally.

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Feb 2, 2014 00:35:37   #
rumitoid
 
THE LETTER IS A LIE. THIS WAS PROVEN FIVE YEARS AGO. WAKE UP! HATE BLINDS, AND THAT EXPLAINS MANY OF YOUR COMMENTS.

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Feb 2, 2014 00:36:58   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Billhuggins wrote:
Hatfield: U need a shot of morphine to ease your pain. :XD:


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Oh, are you into drugs now?

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Feb 2, 2014 00:51:59   #
rumitoid
 
This thread could be a test for an insane asylum: if you believe this madness disproven four or more years ago, "Welcome."

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Feb 2, 2014 10:04:23   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
CDM wrote:
We don't. It's called political correctness; one of the greatest weapons the socialist/communist have every employed. Either agree with them or you are a bigot, a racist, a homophobe or what ever other agenda driven negative connotation can be applied to demean your position. This is guaranteed to occur when they have no fact based argument a function of debate and dialog they substitute with name calling.

In order to maintain a societal balance or as close to balance as possible particularly in the face of the almost overwhelming liberal bias we see in the country today requires unrelenting aggressiveness in pursuing a belief, point of view and argument. Aggressive does not mean unintelligent. To me it means clearly stating a position for which you do not have to apologize. Liberalism sees apology as license to abuse. Thinking people seldom have to say retract to that degree.

You notice on this very thread I made a very strong statement to the effect that I do no like Obama. I do not like his policies. I do not like the man. He is taking up room in an office I respect, and turning into a filthy, anti-American hovel. I was immediately attacked as racist but could not get an explanation how that conclusion was arrived at since nothing in my post inferred skin color. A perfect example of why conservatives and thinking people in general have to take a stand and fight it to the end.

A motto I once saw that sums it up nicely; the meek shall inherit the crap...
We don't. It's called political correctness; one ... (show quote)



Not quite the same idea stated in the bible...in fact, the opposite. By the way, you must have noticed by now that thinking people in general are against extremisms and that those who agree with you on the OPP forum are in general not thinking people. Irony, huh?

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Feb 2, 2014 11:14:04   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Not quite the same idea stated in the bible...in fact, the opposite. By the way, you must have noticed by now that thinking people in general are against extremisms and that those who agree with you on the OPP forum are in general not thinking people. Irony, huh?


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I resent your statement. When I first joined this forum it was obvious that all the name-calling, the play on the President's name and negativity came from the anti-Liberal faction, or should I substitute anti-Obama. When one is reduced to name-calling, using what they imagine is clever plays on words or names (I don't think I have to refer you to them) then they are fleeing from or unable to think clearly. These are the extremists who function primarily on emotions.

Initially this forum began with an intelligent exchange of ideas including some humor. Now look what's happened. There are those who are looking to begin another civil war by using their guns, etc. I'm sure you've read most of the entries submitted and you must be in agreement with me. This can and has become, for the most part, the new flavor of this forum. This can become communicable. I've found that a couple of times even I slipped into this unacceptable atmosphere (but only abut twice). It has reduced the quality of this forum. You can be assured that it will not recur in my submissions. You must also realize that extremism goes both ways and the name calling, or what is considered wit by some, is always from the same direction.

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Feb 2, 2014 12:01:38   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
jonhatfield wrote:
You believe this phony baloney massive vote fraud story line handed out by rightwingnuts? How come not a single Republican reputable Congressperson has stated such a crazy idea? You people on OPP who believe and repeat such lies should realize you have serious mental issues. Normal people aren't so gullible to think such nonsense. You need to be careful not to go around telling your neighbors or relatives your weird ideas...they would think you loony...probably already do but are polite enough not to tell you to your face.
You believe this phony baloney massive vote fraud ... (show quote)


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Feb 2, 2014 12:09:31   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
jonhatfield wrote:
How many of the right wing extremist OPP club chimed in on this lie? 14! They buy into the misrepresentations typical of extremist fringe thinking all the time. They need to return to reality and appreciate real America--not perfect but the best self-government on earth.

List of buyers into this extremism fakery: hprinz, bahmer, MrEd, DonMac, faithistheword, hopelessinil, Vernon, Weyner, Madshark, mkewlnez, CDM, stan3186, nuclearean, papadeux.

Question to each of these 14: how do you feel about the dupe factor in extreme right wing political statements? That is, surely by now each must of you must have run across a statement or two or three from your side that you recognized as doubtful, exaggerated, or outright misrepresentation but which you noticed your compatriots accepting without question and ranting on about? How do you feel about your side being duped and carrying on in such a manner? If you check back through the postings about this letter faked from a teacher, how do you feel now about the rabidness of some of the postings? I'm not asking whether you still believe the ideas but rather how you feel about the "duped" factor.

Separately, hprinz, could you explain the story line of this teacher being subject to firing? Did the piece come to you with that addition...or did you make that up yourself? Someone did make it up...just want to know who.

You 14 people need to be more responsible in your thinking and postings. This letter faked to be from a teacher and then faked to be cause for firing should be a caution to you regarding the sources of your thinking and the trustworthiness of propagandists on your side.
How many of the right wing extremist OPP club chim... (show quote)


Fear does that to people.

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Feb 2, 2014 15:59:13   #
faithistheword
 
jonhatfield wrote:
So none of you don't care that the teacher and firing parts were faked? What does that say about your sense of responsibility?

Check again, if you dare, the referenced sources provided by rumtoid on page 1 and see the degree your side is capable of propaganda and misrepresentation. Are any of you capable of acknowledging the misrepresentation of the source of this letter? Do you realize the implications of such misrepresentations on credibility in the larger picture of your political story lines? Can you see why the general public distrusts your extremisms and rantings?
So none of you don't care that the teacher and fir... (show quote)




LOOK WHO'S WORRYING ABOUT CREDIBILITY !! He worships barackhussein, Supreme Liar of the Year, but the authenticity of an on-line letter is cause for prison time ?
It is a letter. It is written. It was signed, presumably by its author. Everything in it is true. What's the problem ?

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Feb 2, 2014 16:01:02   #
faithistheword
 
Alicia wrote:
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Didn't you read further on this this letter is a lie? Check through the forum. This is what occurs when people, who don't think, but react emotionally.




You mean like democrats, when they vote ?!?

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Feb 2, 2014 16:37:23   #
Comment Loc: California
 
That is absolute turds. Hitler held the highest office in Germany. Applying your father's and your logic he was to be respected for he was elected to the highest office. U must still be in diapers.

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Feb 2, 2014 16:40:00   #
Comment Loc: California
 
jonhatfield wrote:
So none of you don't care that the teacher and firing parts were faked? What does that say about your sense of responsibility?

Check again, if you dare, the referenced sources provided by rumtoid on page 1 and see the degree your side is capable of propaganda and misrepresentation. Are any of you capable of acknowledging the misrepresentation of the source of this letter? Do you realize the implications of such misrepresentations on credibility in the larger picture of your political story lines? Can you see why the general public distrusts your extremisms and rantings?
So none of you don't care that the teacher and fir... (show quote)


I love it when you liberal start running for the hills. It dos not matter who said it, it is valid not fiction. Hahahaha, run baby lib run, run.

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Feb 2, 2014 18:49:19   #
Hungry Freaks
 
Hey, teaching is a tough job, but this one should learn a few lessons.
a-in castigating the president for pay raises the House voted for itself should be reminded that the House controls the purse strings. And last time I check, the House was in GOP hands.
b-The president has been criticized for not toadying to Saudi Arabia enough. Now he's being castigated for bowing to some member of the House of Saud? Look at US foreign policy for the last 50 years and tell me if this president is bowing unduly to the Saudi Feudal kingdom. the Saudis have been pulling our strings long enough and should learn to stand on their own, which this president, the first in a long time, is apparently doing.
c-I don't recall President Obama "apologizing" to anyone for anything the US has done, unless its been sending in a drone strike on civilians. He may have said the US may not always been right, but apologizing? I'd like to see the context.
d-The word God is not mention once in our Constitution.That the Constitution includes some of the Christian precepts of some of our Founding Fathers is true. But also the undue influence of the church of England also had it's influence on the Founding Fathers, leading them to keep religion and the government at arms length from each other. .WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION-that's why there is no mention of God, Jesus or anything remotely referring to the Bible in the Constitution.
e-WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION-again in case you didn't see if the first time. A nation with a population that predominately claims to be Christian, yes. And our Founding Fathers intended it to be a non-relgious-of any religion-state for reasons stated above. SHOW ME WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT IT STATES THE UNITED STATES IS A CHRISTIAN NATION-it doesn't. Plain and simple. You can extrapolate views of each Founding Father, find writings that MAY indicate otherwise, but look at the document. No matter how you look at it, the Constitution is a secular document organizing a secular government that doesn't get in the way of it's citizens to worship whatever they want in any way they want.

Had this teacher sent this letter as an individual, I'd say here firing would be unfounded. But she sent it and signed it as a representative of her school-and she should be fired for taking upon herself the right to call the president and other officials names and acting like she's a representative of her school.

I'm getting mighty sick of these self-righteous Pharisees like this teacher speaking from on high about how, in five short years, one man has destroyed the United States, spreading lie (telling the Europeans we are arrogant) upon lie (apologizing for the United States) upon lie (telling Europeans we don't care for their status in the world.)

Fact-the stock market has more than doubled in the past five years.
Fact-corporate profits are at an all-time high, both in amount and percentage of increase, on an average, with any of the stock exchanges.
Fact-the annual budget deficits have decreased by half since 2009.

And some have the gall to call this president a communist. Where do they get this bullshit? From fox "news" most likely, and a spat of other rumor mongers on the Internet.

that this letter resonates with the ultra-right wing fringe is no surprise. It includes all the lies thrown at the uniformed every night by fox "news" and repeated over and over like the propaganda machine of the GOP that it is.

Poll after poll after poll has shown that those who listen to fox "news' are the least informed about the facts of what is happening in the world. It is an attempt by a small group of businessmen to spread their particular set of views and spread them as "facts" to gullible people who are deathly afraid of what the future holds and of their loss of status of "The Chosen Few." Problem is that they never were "The Chosen Few" and that they are being manipulated by those who really do pull the strings in our current multi-national corporation oligarchy.

Hey, you wanna be a puppet for the multi-nationals, go ahead. They're not operating in your interests. .

hprinze wrote:
At last someone has said what should be printed in EVERY news media and over all TV stations Fox news etc. As well as to everyone on your e-mail list. I have, will you?
HER JOB ??..............This teacher has more guts than our entire Congress, Supreme Court and the Obama administration. GOD bless this teacher. A TEACHER FROM THE GREAT STATE OF MISSOURI WILL LOSE HER JOB FOR STANDING UP FOR ALL OF US.Give this teacher and true American a standing ovation. This 4th grade teacher has said it all, and she was brave enough to attach her name to it.
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington , DC 20500
Mr. Obama:
I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate representative of the United States of America collectively or of me personally.
You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America .You are responsible to the citizens of the United States . You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth.
I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the United States , telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the Second World War were all about, if not the consideration of the peoples of Europe ?
Are you brain dead? What do you think the Marshall Plan was all about? Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century?Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider itself a Christian country?
Have you not read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States ? This country was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governing this country, at least until you came along, come directly from this heritage. Do you not understand this?
Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia . You didn't show Great Britain , our best and one of our oldest allies, the respect they deserve yet you bow down to the king of Saudi Arabia .
How dare you, sir! How dare you! You can't find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation because you don't want to offend the Germans, but make time to visit a mosque in Turkey ! You offended our dead and every veteran when you give the Germans more respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves. What's the matter with you?
I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddle and should be ashamed of yourselves, all of you. You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American automobile manufacturers, yet do nothing about the real thieves in this situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses.What do you intend to do about them? Anything? I seriously doubt it.

What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to their staff members on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that lawmakers gave themselves? I understand the average House aide got a 17% bonus. I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer. You haven't said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didn't! Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that's $45 million more than the AIG bonuses. In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51 million not a bad take. Who authorized that and why haven't you expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the economic mess we have right now?
I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not caring about what you idiots do.
We are watching what you are doing and we are getting increasingly fed up with all of you. I also want you to know that I personally find just about everything you do and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities. I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do not destroy my beautiful country.
Sincerely, A real American
Ms Kathleen Lyday
Fourth Grade Teacher
Grandview Elementary School
11470 Hwy . C
Hillsboro , MO 63050
At last someone has said what should be printed in... (show quote)

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Feb 2, 2014 22:00:28   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
vernon wrote:
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idiot

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Feb 2, 2014 22:31:28   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
rumitoid wrote:
This letter again. It is nearly five years old and makes a circuit two or three times every year. Despite the unreasonable distrust of factchecking sites that might possibly have ended this ridiculous orbit of bullhookey earlier on, here is a link: http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/letter_to_obama.htm
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/teacher-letter-obama.shtml

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