Nickolai

Not paranoid just sad and lamenting what progress has been lost these last 40 years. The conservative movement set out in the early 1970's to peel aback the New Deal like an onion They were so successful at demonizing liberals that even the Democratic party wanted to disassociate from their legacy of the new deal and did. I'm not paranoid just lamentable. I grew up when the new deal was lifting millions of us out of poverty and into the middle class and I could support my wife and two daughters on a single construction workers income at a middle class standard of living some thing my parents could only have dreamed of 20 years earlier

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

You are a NUT JOB!

son of witless

So we are both disappointed in President Obama. You because he failed as a Socialist and me because he succeeded. Now you are making a blanket condemnation of Wall Streeters as if as a class they should all be in prison. You blame all of Wall Street and nobody else. You do not blame the people running Fannie and Freddie, the GSEs, or the politicians who allowed them to take large risks underwritten by the taxpayer. Those politicians were people like Congressman Barney Frank who defended the GSEs as they took on more risk and also blocked federal regulators from coming down on the GSEs.

Then you had companies like Countrywide run by Angelo Mozilo that contributed to the collapse. Also the rating industry that did not accurately value the mortgage backed securities or their risk. We are both seeking to lay blame on our opponents and say those we favor are blameless.

Nickolai

The Democratic party moved right with the conservative movement and by the time Clinton was elected that party once known as the working mans party In the 1930's the party had abandoned organized labor. The thinking was we don't have to worry about labor we have ther money and their votes because they have no other choice and we need to keep moving right to insure we get our share of wall streets tsumai of cash and by 2000 the Democrats for the first time got more than the Republicans the party of big business. That's the reason the Dems lost those four rust belt states they took them for granted and did not speak to those who have been left behind

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Same goes with the Constitution.

Chocura750

Harvey, Irma, and, perhaps, Jose, the hits keep coming but the global warming deniers keep denying. A new definition of a Conservative would be, someone who would go down with the ship rather than admit they hit an iceberg.

Steve700

No these your hero along with Mao, Stalin and Castro. Global warming is a hoax designed to get you used to doing with less so you can be acclimated to the coming New World order where your purpose for existence will be to serve the state. , You know, the globalist liberal/commie agenda that you strive so hard to fulfill thinking you're doing a great service.

Steve700

Truth is not subjective. And nobody thinks you're lying. You're just a little delusional, believing the left actually does care about the poor and oppressed (rather than just getting their boat by telling them they are victims and the Dems are there to help) and not aware that the true agenda of the left is not to help but to gain power and do so by any means necessary. There tactic for doing that is the destruction and overthrow of America, which begins by destroying the family and attacking Christian values like with gay marriage and siding with communist anarchists and street thugs like Black lives matters and ANTIFA over the police. You see, in order for the left to take full control, they need to destroy America Christian morality and the principles upon which this country was founded so that they can build their fantasy leftist utopia as they want it from the ashes. That's real, that's the truth. and that's a fact, whether you can see it or not. The useful idiots don't know that, but that IS what many of them want and the progress in hierarchy certainly knows and understands that..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Sorry straight up but I was curious with your figures so I went looking to see for myself..

I couldn't find anything that suggested such, would you mind sharing your numbers with us??

Here's a couple I read~~

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-tropical-cyclone-activity

Key Points
Since 1878, about six to seven hurricanes have formed in the North Atlantic every year. Roughly two per year make landfall in the United States. The total number of hurricanes (particularly after being adjusted for improvements in observation methods) and the number reaching the United States do not indicate a clear overall trend since 1878 (see Figure 1).
According to the total annual ACE Index, cyclone intensity has risen noticeably over the past 20 years, and six of the 10 most active years since 1950 have occurred since the mid-1990s (see Figure 2). Relatively high levels of cyclone activity were also seen during the 1950s and 1960s.
The PDI (see Figure 3) shows fluctuating cyclone intensity for most of the mid- to late 20th century, followed by a noticeable increase since 1995 (similar to the ACE Index). These trends are shown with associated variations in sea surface temperature in the tropical North Atlantic for comparison (see Figure 3).
Despite the apparent increases in tropical cyclone activity in recent years, shown in Figures 2 and 3, changes in observation methods over time make it difficult to know whether tropical storm activity has actually shown an increase over time.

Another looking for correlation of the numbers~~I like the chart used but point out it hits only the September run, most volatile time period of the hurricanes but gives a pretty good overview ...
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/tropical-cyclones/201509

North Atlantic
September marks a continuation of a record-long major hurricane (Category 3 or stronger) landfall drought in the United States. The last major hurricane to make landfall in the U.S. was Wilma on October 24, 2005. This major hurricane drought surpassed the length of the eight-years from 1861-1868 when no major hurricane struck the United States' coast. On average, a major hurricane makes landfall in the U.S. about once every three years. The reliable record of landfalling hurricanes in the U.S. dates back to 1851.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

And an old stated fact of the libs is they did go down with and even helped the sinking ship take place in voting for and defending the worst president we ever had, who spent billions on alternative energies for his buddies...
More than just words, action erases any doubt..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

There were plenty of articles about it ~~Snopes which I won't use because they are a liberal slither of false everything admitting they don't actually investigate anything tried to discredit the findings here too but failed in its skewed attempt.. Thought I'd put it in tho.. As is their norm they threw up red flags but failed to discredit ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/amp/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html

A high-level whistleblower has told this newspaper that America’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) breached its own rules on scientific integrity when it published the sensational but flawed report, aimed at making the maximum possible impact on world leaders including Barack Obama and David Cameron at the UN climate conference in Paris in 2015.

The report claimed that the ‘pause’ or ‘slowdown’ in global warming in the period since 1998 – revealed by UN scientists in 2013 – never existed, and that world temperatures had been rising faster than scientists expected. Launched by NOAA with a public relations fanfare, it was splashed across the world’s media, and cited repeatedly by politicians and policy makers.

But the whistleblower, Dr John Bates, a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation, has shown The Mail on Sunday irrefutable evidence that the paper was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data.

It was never subjected to NOAA’s rigorous internal evaluation process – which Dr Bates devised.

His vehement objections to the publication of the faulty data were overridden by his NOAA superiors in what he describes as a ‘blatant attempt to intensify the impact’ of what became known as the Pausebuster paper.

His disclosures are likely to stiffen President Trump’s determination to enact his pledges to reverse his predecessor’s ‘green’ policies, and to withdraw from the Paris deal – so triggering an intense political row.

Here's another that talks about how we wind up with such differing views on that other measurement of climate change and how they look to enhance reporting ~~ pretty interesting..by just changing the location of a study or eliminating one investigative factor they can have dramatically different conclusions.. is it intended or just Science changing their needs for accuracy??

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2619/nasa-scientists-seek-to-improve-sea-ice-predictions/

son of witless

I have been watching the news reports about what is happening in Florida and have noticed an obvious fact. All over Florida they are running out of gasoline. I find it funny that while Leftists are blaming Global Warming caused by fossil fuels for the Hurricanes, the most important thing to save people is fossil fuel. I wonder how well the people with electric cars, bicycles, and shoe leather are doing getting out of the way of the Hurricane ?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

" I wonder how well the people with electric cars, bicycles, and shoe leather are doing getting out of the way of the Hurricane ?" - son of witless

Good point son.
Would that be Chinese shoe leather you are referring to?

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

It is a bit ironic coupled with the renewed fears of Turkey Point all over again... which is more deadly, son???

I have friends there, one living in Key West.. She told me she left her home late Wednesday and by yesterday had only reached Gainesville because of the traffic and number of gas stations out of gas.. She watched gas trucks passing under escort of the National Guard and worried she wouldn't find gas...

I hope she finally got into Ga hoping to have better results in traffic and gas availability..
Is we see there may be a different path but with the size of this monster the whole state will get it in some capacity..

I just pray they get out of there and are safe!!!

As for the leftist well you know, never let a great story go to waste when claiming climate change....

What they fail to see is how utterly preposterous they look when typing such garbage... I mean I read it and go how damn dumb are these people??? And then laugh...

Morgan

Lets be a little more realistic, a campaign speech, really, shall we comb through all the candidate's of past presidents on champagne speeches, as Bush's historic"read my lips... no new taxes". I'm not taking the time to research each little champagne promise that didn't happen, my God man.

How many of those things did he try to do? He, like Trump, had high aspirations but ounce in the house had to come to terms to the reality and how the games are really played.

The key in my mind is not the president but it is our representatives, they are the true engine for change, and as someone had posted where I was researching, it matters little after the bill is passed, let's get it up before it is passed to have a true dialog with the people, now that would be something...but would they listen or ignore us?

I also think posted records of promises not met from their previous terms be published before their reelection, that of course would be the responsibility of someone to collect that information in each district, something we can pass forward and spread the word. Our representatives are either our strongest links or weakest for our governing the way we wish it to be.

I welcome any civilized non-insulting dialog.