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Sep 8, 2017 21:01:21   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
I'm glad you wrote this in the end, because I think we do have a common enemy. But I'm not so sure YOU can see it. Let me just say that the entity I am calling our common enemy is neither left, nor right and the whole left/right circus is just that... A circus.

I hope we get a chance to talk about that sometime.


Well done! I especially appreciated the moderate vs extremist analagy.

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Sep 8, 2017 21:03:12   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, you say you "hate certain ideologies" so I'm not sure how you're going to prevent a conflict of ideologies from going hot.

I guess I'm the opposite - I don't hate any ideology. I view them as ideas. How can you hate an idea? I'm more concerned about actions. I think if people focused more on the actions people take, instead of blaming everything on ideology we would have a much clearer idea of what's actually going on. To put this in terms I find most conservatives seem to understand... the fear or loathing of any ideology makes as much sense as the fear or loathing of a gun. I'm sure you realize that guns don't run around shooting people on their own. People are the one's that kill, guns are just the tools they use. I think the same thing can be said about ideologies. It takes a Stalin to really make communism bad, just like it takes a Greenspan to make capitalism bad. Either of those ideologies can be much more beneficial if the actions taken by the implementors aren't malicious.

If you really do value freedom like you say you do, ideologies need to be allowed. Teachers need to be able to teach their students the ideas that are out there so they can make their own informed decisions about what will work for them and people need to judge the actions we take instead of the labels we wear.
Well, you say you "hate certain ideologies&qu... (show quote)


Agreed!

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Sep 8, 2017 23:20:45   #
G1ReconBravo Loc: Sonoran Desert
 
S. Maturin wrote:
All the 'heat' seems to be coming from one side-- the side that shows up with masked faces, helmets, and pepper spray, clubs, fire, the normal brownshirt stuff.


Roger that. I've seen those tactics first hand. I don't think we've seen the worst yet. This stuff is right out of CIA's playbok on destabilizing government through civil conflict. It can go hot. There is certainly enough hardware out there. This all depends if good people from both sides can help unify their masses in common cause, or in this case a common enemy. The people who have the platforms and audience to do it aren't.

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Sep 9, 2017 00:04:40   #
G1ReconBravo Loc: Sonoran Desert
 
straightUp wrote:
I'm glad you wrote this in the end, because I think we do have a common enemy. But I'm not so sure YOU can see it. Let me just say that the entity I am calling our common enemy is neither left, nor right and the whole left/right circus is just that... A circus.

I hope we get a chance to talk about that sometime.


I appreciate your taking the time to respond. There seems to be more going on up there than I originally gave credit to. How refreshing. You sound less like an automocucktoid and more human.
Just a reminder, and defense of my comprehension skills. YOU started the entire post, or response to Emily as
"Read? Emily, are you asking a Trump supporter to "read"? LOL.
Followed by your thoughts on the alt-right. Forgive if I misunderstood these to be correlated in your mind as opposed to being separate ideas. I don't know if you have seen my original acknowledgment and support of Emily's assessment of the AG. Page 4. And read my first post: America 2017: Twilight Zone. Get into my head a little, I couldn't agree more about a circus :)
I'm going to check out some OC by you. Try and get into your head a little.

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Sep 9, 2017 10:13:11   #
S. Maturin
 
G1ReconBravo wrote:
Roger that. I've seen those tactics first hand. I don't think we've seen the worst yet. This stuff is right out of CIA's playbok on destabilizing government through civil conflict. It can go hot. There is certainly enough hardware out there. This all depends if good people from both sides can help unify their masses in common cause, or in this case a common enemy. The people who have the platforms and audience to do it aren't.


'Common enemy'.. can we rationally expect both sides to actually agree upon a common enemy? The radical left see traditional Americans as the enemy as anyone who have watched their organized attacks on others will attest.

Since the 1930s we have suffered periodic internal surges of communists/socialists.. today's metamorphosis has resulted in those descendants being better organized because of better communication and better funded. Soros and other hate American wealthy creatures are intent on using those masked fools as tools... 'FOOLS AS TOOLS' - has the ring of truth to it, doesn't it?

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Sep 9, 2017 11:00:12   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
S. Maturin wrote:
'Common enemy'.. can we rationally expect both sides to actually agree upon a common enemy? The radical left see traditional Americans as the enemy as anyone who have watched their organized attacks on others will attest.

Since the 1930s we have suffered periodic internal surges of communists/socialists.. today's metamorphosis has resulted in those descendants being better organized because of better communication and better funded. Soros and other hate American wealthy creatures are intent on using those masked fools as tools... 'FOOLS AS TOOLS' - has the ring of truth to it, doesn't it?
'Common enemy'.. can we rationally expect both sid... (show quote)


'FOOLS AS TOOLS'
Yep.

Why do liberals side with a Billionaire elitist like George "Giorgi" Soros?
Why do they side with a group of elitists that promote a supreme totalitarian regime, ready to pick their bones?

“This system to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.” - Insider, Professor Carroll Quigley – ‘Tragedy and Hope’,( p. 324)
(Bilderberger Group)


SOROS ROTHSCHILD RACE WAR PROPAGANDA EXPOSED
https://youtu.be/lhqqz3QFQKE
George Soros: Evil Puppet Master Exposed
https://youtu.be/1eRFTHD2CTg
10 Things You Didn't Know About "Giorgi" George Soros
https://youtu.be/tfBHYxEojZk

SOROS ROTHSCHILD RACE WAR PROPAGANDA EXPOSED
https://youtu.be/lhqqz3QFQKE

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Sep 9, 2017 11:06:19   #
S. Maturin
 
eagleye13 wrote:
'FOOLS AS TOOLS'
Yep.

Why do liberals side with a Billionaire elitist like George "Giorgi" Soros?
Why do they side with a group of elitists that promote a supreme totalitarian regime, ready to pick their bones?

“This system to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.” - Insider, Professor Carroll Quigley – ‘Tragedy and Hope’,( p. 324)
(Bilderberger Group)


SOROS ROTHSCHILD RACE WAR PROPAGANDA EXPOSED
https://youtu.be/lhqqz3QFQKE
George Soros: Evil Puppet Master Exposed
https://youtu.be/1eRFTHD2CTg
10 Things You Didn't Know About "Giorgi" George Soros
https://youtu.be/tfBHYxEojZk

SOROS ROTHSCHILD RACE WAR PROPAGANDA EXPOSED
https://youtu.be/lhqqz3QFQKE
'FOOLS AS TOOLS' br Yep. br br Why do liberals si... (show quote)



All indications as to the 'why' of the zombie-like following the radical left enjoys point to indoctrination in public schools and colleges coast-to-coast.

We raise our kids decently and then they experience intellectual mauling and rape while we're being robbed. Something is terribly wrong!

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Sep 9, 2017 14:16:31   #
maryla
 
Brett Bozzell in doing research for MRC(Media Research Center) has learned Soros was behind the Lois Lerner targeting of Conservative groups by IRS along with much of the violence which arose after Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown so the left(Soros funded) has been going after statues. What more proof does Jeff Sessions need to arrest this creep?? He could be bolder!!!
eagleye13 wrote:
'FOOLS AS TOOLS'
Yep.

Why do liberals side with a Billionaire elitist like George "Giorgi" Soros?
Why do they side with a group of elitists that promote a supreme totalitarian regime, ready to pick their bones?

“This system to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.” - Insider, Professor Carroll Quigley – ‘Tragedy and Hope’,( p. 324)
(Bilderberger Group)


SOROS ROTHSCHILD RACE WAR PROPAGANDA EXPOSED
https://youtu.be/lhqqz3QFQKE
George Soros: Evil Puppet Master Exposed
https://youtu.be/1eRFTHD2CTg
10 Things You Didn't Know About "Giorgi" George Soros
https://youtu.be/tfBHYxEojZk

SOROS ROTHSCHILD RACE WAR PROPAGANDA EXPOSED
https://youtu.be/lhqqz3QFQKE
'FOOLS AS TOOLS' br Yep. br br Why do liberals si... (show quote)

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Sep 9, 2017 14:23:27   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
maryla wrote:
Brett Bozzell in doing research for MRC(Media Research Center) has learned Soros was behind the Lois Lerner targeting of Conservative groups by IRS along with much of the violence which arose after Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown so the left(Soros funded) has been going after statues. What more proof does Jeff Sessions need to arrest this creep?? He could be bolder!!!


"What more proof does Jeff Sessions need to arrest this creep?? He could be bolder!!"

I wonder if Giorgi Soros has leprosy?
He sure looks like he has.
He is being treated by our Justice Department as though he is an untouchable.

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Sep 9, 2017 14:47:12   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Just to stir the pot.... http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/George_Soros

George Soros: The Evil Liberal Boogeyman who... helped smash communism in Hungary.

George Soros is a self-righteous Hungarian-born billionaire who had no problem smashing the Bank of England in 1992 through currency speculation, but got pissed when other people pulled the same shit on energy. He is absolutely nothing like the Koch brothers, Richard Mellon Scaife, or any other wealthy financier of conservative causes who keeps a low profile, because shut up that's why.

Most people don't know much about him, and his name makes him sound like a Bond villain (plus, his surname is a palindrome). What better guy to portray as the brain to which the entire progressive movement is beholden? The movement is easier to demonize when it seems like it's all the machination of one rich evil bastard. In reality, what he's doing is fairly innocuous. Indeed, Soros has done some good in the world by funding district attorneys who oppose the War on (Some) Drugs (so he can smoke dope in Albany?). Perhaps one day the state can mind its own business rather than spending oodles of money on non-violent drug offenders.

He also speaks Esperanto, which is proof of his communist tendencies.

George Soros is a well-known funder of various liberal organizations, including the Center for American Progress, MoveOn.org, and a princely $1 million donation to Media Matters. It was speculated that he gave funds to the Occupy movement in 2011; however, this was proven not the case.

Soros is also an evil spectre for Bill O'Reilly that, Bill believes, funds the liberal media, runs Media Matters, funds ACORN, and is the sole monetary force behind Air America Radio. This paranoia, of course, occurs only in the fantasy universe of Fox News. Glenn Beck concocted a conspiracy theory in which Soros secretly bankrolled communist eastern European regimes despite the fact that he actually supported anti-communist opposition parties in these states. He also accused Soros of collaborating with the Nazis as a Jewish teenager in Nazi-occupied Hungary, when he had in fact been hidden with the Christian family of a government official at the age of 14 to escape persecution.

Being known as "The Man Who Broke the Bank of England," Soros features in many international Jewish conspiracy theories (and he usually has ties to the Rothschild family, of course). During the 1997-98 southeast Asian financial crisis, Malaysian premier Mahathir bin Mohamad fingered Soros as the head of a Jewish cabal that had caused the crisis. This began a feud between the two that lasted until 2006, when Mahathir apologized.

And, of course, who can forget Glenn Beck's super-duper-original 'puppet master' theory?

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Sep 9, 2017 14:58:36   #
maryla
 
Maybe it's leprosy or just plain ole age. I agree our Justice Department does treat Soros as untouchable. so maybe the last purging of Obama holdovers wasn't enough! or that Political Correctness still strangles the DOJ...
eagleye13 wrote:
"What more proof does Jeff Sessions need to arrest this creep?? He could be bolder!!"

I wonder if Giorgi Soros has leprosy?
He sure looks like he has.
He is being treated by our Justice Department as though he is an untouchable.

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Sep 9, 2017 15:00:56   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
slatten49 wrote:
Just to stir the pot.... http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/George_Soros

George Soros: The Evil Liberal Boogeyman who... helped smash communism in Hungary.

George Soros is a self-righteous Hungarian-born billionaire who had no problem smashing the Bank of England in 1992 through currency speculation, but got pissed when other people pulled the same shit on energy. He is absolutely nothing like the Koch brothers, Richard Mellon Scaife, or any other wealthy financier of conservative causes who keeps a low profile, because shut up that's why.

Most people don't know much about him, and his name makes him sound like a Bond villain (plus, his surname is a palindrome). What better guy to portray as the brain to which the entire progressive movement is beholden? The movement is easier to demonize when it seems like it's all the machination of one rich evil bastard. In reality, what he's doing is fairly innocuous. Indeed, Soros has done some good in the world by funding district attorneys who oppose the War on (Some) Drugs (so he can smoke dope in Albany?). Perhaps one day the state can mind its own business rather than spending oodles of money on non-violent drug offenders.

He also speaks Esperanto, which is proof of his communist tendencies.

George Soros is a well-known funder of various liberal organizations, including the Center for American Progress, MoveOn.org, and a princely $1 million donation to Media Matters. It was speculated that he gave funds to the Occupy movement in 2011; however, this was proven not the case.

Soros is also an evil spectre for Bill O'Reilly that, Bill believes, funds the liberal media, runs Media Matters, funds ACORN, and is the sole monetary force behind Air America Radio. This paranoia, of course, occurs only in the fantasy universe of Fox News. Glenn Beck concocted a conspiracy theory in which Soros secretly bankrolled communist eastern European regimes despite the fact that he actually supported anti-communist opposition parties in these states. He also accused Soros of collaborating with the Nazis as a Jewish teenager in Nazi-occupied Hungary, when he had in fact been hidden with the Christian family of a government official at the age of 14 to escape persecution.

Being known as "The Man Who Broke the Bank of England," Soros features in many international Jewish conspiracy theories (and he usually has ties to the Rothschild family, of course). During the 1997-98 southeast Asian financial crisis, Malaysian premier Mahathir bin Mohamad fingered Soros as the head of a Jewish cabal that had caused the crisis. This began a feud between the two that lasted until 2006, when Mahathir apologized.

And, of course, who can forget Glenn Beck's super-duper-original 'puppet master' theory?
Just to stir the pot.... img src="https://static.... (show quote)


And here is the rest of the story;

Soros in all his gory:
SOROS ROTHSCHILD RACE WAR PROPAGANDA EXPOSED
https://youtu.be/lhqqz3QFQKE

George Soros: Evil Zionist Puppet Master Exposed
https://youtu.be/1eRFTHD2CTg

10 Things You Didn't Know About George Soros
https://youtu.be/tfBHYxEojZk

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Sep 9, 2017 15:24:16   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
And here is the rest of the story;

Soros in all his gory:
SOROS ROTHSCHILD RACE WAR PROPAGANDA EXPOSED
https://youtu.be/lhqqz3QFQKE

George Soros: Evil Zionist Puppet Master Exposed
https://youtu.be/1eRFTHD2CTg

10 Things You Didn't Know About George Soros
https://youtu.be/tfBHYxEojZk

If that is the rest of the story, why is this excluded....

https://www.timesofisrael.com/demonization-of-soros-recalls-old-anti-semitic-conspiracies/

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Sep 9, 2017 15:31:41   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:

Or, this....

George Soros is a favorite target of the right — here's how that happened

Veronika Bondarenko, May 20, 2017

The day after Donald Trump became president of the United States, thousands of people in pink hats marched the streets. They were protesting Trump's stance on women's rights, among other issues.

But some looked at the sea of pink and saw something else: the invisible hand of a man they believe is not just funding liberal protest movements but controlling the world's wealth and pushing a global order.

It's not true, but the man these conspiracy theorists target is George Soros, the prominent billionaire hedge fund manager.

The 86-year-old has become a Rorschach test. To the left, he's a rich guy openly supporting causes many liberals believe in. But to some on the far right, he's more sinister and nefarious, despite a lack of evidence. For two decades, some have seen Soros as a kind of puppet master secretly controlling the global economy and politics.

At times Soros has wielded great power. In the early 1990s, he bet against the British pound, which broke England's monetary system overnight and earned him more than a billion dollars. Later in the decade, he took similar steps during Asian Financial Crisis. Many saw it as capitalizing off of catastrophes and the Malaysian prime minister even accused Soros of purposefully bringing down the value of his country's currency by more than 15%.

From there, he's become a singular target of unfounded right-wing conspiracy theories, in part because he has so few peers on the left.

“What makes the Soros thing interesting is that most of the conspiracy theories about rich people tend to be made by people on the left about people on the right," said Joe Uscinski, a political-science professor at the University of Miami.

Soros, who is worth $25 billion, has been at the center of conspiracy theories since he first rose to the top echelons of hedge fund managers in the 1990s. But he really attracted attention in 2004, when he gave money to groups that sought to block President George W. Bush's reelection bid. His entry into politics, coupled with Soros' choice to repeatedly speak out against the Iraq War, set off a long-lasting string of conspiracy theories alleging that Soros tried to influence politics with nefarious intent.

“George Soros first found himself in the crosshairs of the conservative propaganda machine when he publicly expressed opposition to the march to war in Iraq,” said Michael Vachon, a spokesman for Soros Fund Management. Since then, Soros has continued to donate large sums of money to organizations that support democratic reform in the US and throughout the world. Some saw that as a sign of scheming secretive plots.

Right-leaning sites like Breitbart and The Washington Times have often claimed that Soros paid protesters at the Women's March and the March for Science. In reality, Soros has been giving money to progressive groups since long before the Trump’s election. In 2017, some of them decided to participate in protests.

Theories can be far-fetched, like accusations that Soros is in cahoots with the world's elite to bring down the global currency. Then there are simpler accusations that are rooted in truth: that Soros uses his power and money to influence politics. His open support for migrants and refugees and criminal-justice reform is well known.

Still, people such as Daniel Greenfield believe Soros goes further. Greenfield is a regular writer for far-right outlets. He believes Soros is trying to take over the world to make it more liberal.

"Government should be decided by the people rather than by powerful interests who subvert democracy," Greenfield told Business Insider. He wrote an article saying that Soros "destroyed the Democratic party."

"I don't like his governments and their agendas," Greenfield said.

Soros' choice to put his wealth toward political causes that he believes in is not particularly different from the billions of dollars that right-wing billionaires like Charles and David Koch have been donating to Republican causes for years, said Miami University professor Timothy Melley. The difference is that far more ultra-rich Americans are politically conservative.

"It’s a projection of right-wing billionaire behavior onto a prominent left-wing billionaire," said Melley, who wrote "Empire of Conspiracy: The Culture of Paranoia in Postwar America."

It's true Soros has not been quiet in his criticism of Republicans like Trump.

Many European countries with right-leaning governments have also seen a strong anti-Soros push in recent years. The president of Soros' native Hungary has passed laws that would try to close a progressive university the billionaire opened in Budapest and called Soros "an enemy of the euro" after the EU criticized the decision.

“George is the enemy of choice of despots," said Vachon.

While many anti-Soros theories accuse him of schemes and secrecy, Soros' Open Society Foundation is fairly vocal in its commitment to social justice. The foundation's site states that it has spent more than $1.6 billion on democratic development in Eastern Europe. As a child, Soros fled persecution from the Nazis and has been instrumental in bringing capitalism to countries within the former Soviet bloc.

The foundation has also spent more than $1.5 billion on democratic reform — including immigration, criminal justice, and democratic governance — within the US.

"Like any other liberal, George Soros is hoping that Trump will be out of power," said Melley, adding that Soros' spending and political power is what turns him into a threat. "It doesn’t exactly constitute a secret plot."

What Soros actually did is in line with the political activities of prominent conservative donors. Conservative hedge fund billionaire Robert Mercer, for instance, has given millions of dollars to a pro-Trump Make America Number One super PAC and sponsored public-opinion research suggesting an outsider candidate was likely to win in November 2016.

Students shout slogans during a demonstration against Prime Minister Viktor Orban's efforts to force a George Soros-founded university out of the country in Budapest, Hungary, April 2, 2017.Students at a demonstration against Prime Minister Viktor Orban's efforts to force a George Soros-founded university out of the country in Budapest, Hungary, April 2, 2017.Thomson Reuters

Mark Fenster, a law professor at the University of Florida and author of "Conspiracy Theories: Secrecy and Power in American Culture," said that many of the claims waged against Soros could have an anti-Semitic slant similar to false claims that the Rothschild family secretly controls all of the world's wealth. Fenster said wealth is often used to justify "fearing and hating the Jews" and, as a result, is also used to disguise anti-Semitism in some conspiracy theorists.

In the past, Breitbart published tweets calling Soros "an octopus." The Nazis used octopus imagery to refer to Jews controlling the world in the 1930s and 1940s. Indeed, Glenn Beck, the former Fox News host and founder of The Blaze, once called Soros "a "puppet master" who holds the strings of the world in his hands.

“Some of what’s going on right now is not really a conspiracy theory in the sense of an organic, populist view that kind of rises up from the masses," said Melley. "It seems to be a relatively deliberate attempt to ... discredit."

The idea that Soros is secretly behind all the world's ills remains persistently in the mouths of right-wing commentators — in 2007, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly spent nearly 10 minutes describing Soros as "off-the-charts dangerous" and "an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on."

“If a conspiracy theory can explain big things and offer a villain that people already despise then it’s going to be popular," said Uscinski, adding that someone who has money and significant political influence will often be seen as a threat for those with opposing views.

Another frequent source of anti-Soros coverage, the conspiracy-minded site Infowars ran a video piece titled "George Soros Is About To Overthrow The US" in 2016.

But as pointed out by Melley, "overthrowing the US" most often boils down to little other than openly criticizing right-wing government and supporting progressive, democratic causes. After all, the hedge fund billionaire is not afraid to call Trump a "would-be dictator," so he's unlikely to make any new friends on the right.

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Sep 9, 2017 15:37:14   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
slatten49 wrote:


George Soros speaks onstage at Lincoln Center on April 18, 2017, in New York City. (Andrew Toth/Getty Images for Physicians for Human Rights/AFP)

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — In most nations, having a billionaire financier and philanthropist would be a source of great pride, a person many elected officials would want to cozy up to.

Slat; you can play the devil's advocate.
As Soros claimed "There is no God"
See how that works out for either of you.
His interviews show he has no conscience.
I think you do have a conscience.
Just a thought.

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