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Sep 8, 2017 15:19:45   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
""Also Hurricane Harvey broke the record for dropping the most water ever recorded anywhere in the U.S. and scientists are reporting that the reason for that *IS* global warming""

You mean the scientists at CNN??

No dumbass, there ARE no scientists at CNN. CNN is a media company not a research center or a laboratory.

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Sep 8, 2017 15:22:17   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Morgan wrote:
I didn't ignore anything, your "alternate data" on the Gulf and is more delusional nonsense, there've been other hurricanes and plenty of more storms in the gulf. Otherwise, be specific on what alternate facts your speaking of. A projection or prediction is not a fact but a guesstimate. I've explained weather in comparison to climate, are you purposely being obtuse?


That's always a good question... Some deniers are indeed being obtuse on purpose while other's are truly fooled. It's really hard to tell which is which.

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Sep 8, 2017 15:32:01   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
straightUp wrote:
No dumbass, there ARE no scientists at CNN. CNN is a media company not a research center or a laboratory.


Sometimes sarcasm is not picked up on.

"""Also Hurricane Harvey broke the record for dropping the most water ever recorded anywhere in the U.S. and scientists are reporting that the reason for that *IS* global warming""

You mean the scientists at CNN??"

I thought that was funny

BTW; we could ad the ABCNBCCBS net work also.

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Sep 8, 2017 15:47:32   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
No dumbass, there ARE no scientists at CNN. CNN is a media company not a research center or a laboratory.


Oh yeah!! I seen em!

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Sep 8, 2017 15:47:44   #
Nickolai
 
Big Bass wrote:
i.e. It's a lie if Trump says it, but it's not a lie if obumbum says it. OK! Liberal communist logic.






Trump saying he saw thousands of Muslims dancing and celebrating in New Jersey when the twin tower's fell on 9-11 is a blatant lie and so many others like Ted Cruzes father knew Oswald and was in on the assassination of JFK ect ect ect.

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Sep 8, 2017 15:48:52   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Sometimes sarcasm is not picked up on.

"""Also Hurricane Harvey broke the record for dropping the most water ever recorded anywhere in the U.S. and scientists are reporting that the reason for that *IS* global warming""

You mean the scientists at CNN??"

I thought that was funny

BTW; we could ad the ABCNBCCBS net work also.


Lol! I thought HE was being sarcastic.

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Sep 8, 2017 15:49:07   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Baloney!

No Carol, Nickolai brings up a valid point. The first thing I did when I signed on to this site years ago was ask for evidence that Obama lied... After pages and pages of heresay, links to bullshit stories and obvious displays of outrage, there was not one single piece of evidence that Obama actually lied. I had to keep reminding people what lying actually means.

Lying is where you intentionally misrepresent the truth. Almost every example of Obama's "lying" stems from promises he made that didn't work out. But broken promises are not lies because a promise is about the future and the future isn't true yet, so it's impossible for a promise about the future to be a misrepresentation of the truth.

Trump promised to repeal Obamacare... And he tried too. But he failed. That doesn't make him a liar. But saying that DACA was an illegal policy *IS* a lie because DACA exists in the past and present and it's NOT illegal. If you want proof, look no further than the arguments Trump's own supporters brought up to defend his idiot travel ban when people were calling THAT action "illegal". They made it loud and clear... "The president has the legal authority to determine the fate of immigrants." Now, we have Trump saying it was illegal for Obama to protect immigrant families. Well, obviously that's a lie.

As far as I know, Obama never actually lied. Trump lies every day to the point where it's becoming normal. If Obama said any of the crap that regularly comes out of Trump's mealy pie hole people would be utterly shocked.

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Sep 8, 2017 15:52:31   #
Nickolai
 
son of witless wrote:
You don't think that President Obama lied about Obama Care ? He believed what he said ? Since he was in charge of Obama care, hired the writers of it, had to personally approve of it's major features, and was it's primary salesman, President Obama would have to be the most incompetent leader since Captain Edward J. Smith of the Titanic. Your choice is that he is a great liar or a great fool. So which is it ?






He is was neither he is a good and decent man that doesn't deliberately lie . He was not trying to persuade anyone the bill was passed he was attempting to re assure folks not deceive them their is a big difference/. Trump is the worlds biggest show man and con artist

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Sep 8, 2017 15:57:58   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Sometimes sarcasm is not picked up on.

"""Also Hurricane Harvey broke the record for dropping the most water ever recorded anywhere in the U.S. and scientists are reporting that the reason for that *IS* global warming""

You mean the scientists at CNN??"

I thought that was funny

BTW; we could ad the ABCNBCCBS net work also.


I can see how that might have been sarcasm... Then again, the "idiocracy" that pervades the culture of denial makes it kind of hard to tell the sarcasm from the ignorance. So for me I just assume the later, unless I know the person enough to know better, or unless there's a more obvious sign of joking.

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Sep 8, 2017 16:32:58   #
Morgan
 
straightUp wrote:
That's always a good question... Some deniers are indeed being obtuse on purpose while other's are truly fooled. It's really hard to tell which is which.


Hey Straight, nice to have another person with reason join the party... it's been blast for nick and I LOL

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Sep 8, 2017 16:46:45   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
No Carol, Nickolai brings up a valid point. The first thing I did when I signed on to this site years ago was ask for evidence that Obama lied... After pages and pages of heresay, links to bullshit stories and obvious displays of outrage, there was not one single piece of evidence that Obama actually lied. I had to keep reminding people what lying actually means.

Lying is where you intentionally misrepresent the truth. Almost every example of Obama's "lying" stems from promises he made that didn't work out. But broken promises are not lies because a promise is about the future and the future isn't true yet, so it's impossible for a promise about the future to be a misrepresentation of the truth.

Trump promised to repeal Obamacare... And he tried too. But he failed. That doesn't make him a liar. But saying that DACA was an illegal policy *IS* a lie because DACA exists in the past and present and it's NOT illegal. If you want proof, look no further than the arguments Trump's own supporters brought up to defend his idiot travel ban when people were calling THAT action "illegal". They made it loud and clear... "The president has the legal authority to determine the fate of immigrants." Now, we have Trump saying it was illegal for Obama to protect immigrant families. Well, obviously that's a lie.

As far as I know, Obama never actually lied. Trump lies every day to the point where it's becoming normal. If Obama said any of the crap that regularly comes out of Trump's mealy pie hole people would be utterly shocked.
No Carol, Nickolai brings up a valid point. The fi... (show quote)


Obama himself, said many times, DACA is not conditional and not legal; that it would be shot down.

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Sep 8, 2017 16:52:00   #
Morgan
 
Super Dave wrote:
The climate alarmists don't allways use raw data. They alter the data to compensate for alleged inaccuracies. In at least 2 cases they destroyed the original data, which is anti-science.




More hearsay and unsubstantiated accusations. It's always about planting doubt in the publics mind, why do you think they do that Dave?

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Sep 8, 2017 17:33:56   #
son of witless
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Both! And a disgrace to America.


Well since Nick did not bother to reply and you gave me the consideration of an answer, by default I say you are right.

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Sep 8, 2017 17:39:35   #
son of witless
 
Nickolai wrote:
He is was neither he is a good and decent man that doesn't deliberately lie . He was not trying to persuade anyone the bill was passed he was attempting to re assure folks not deceive them their is a big difference/. Trump is the worlds biggest show man and con artist


Obama is one of those who believes the ends justify the means. If it takes a lie to move an agenda forward then what is a little lie or a humongous lie for that matter. You have opened up a can of worms. To think that Obama believed what he said about the results of Obamacare strains credulity. There are a whole lot other misstatements he made that I cannot believe were honest mistakes. I will be listing them shortly and I want you to tell me how on earth they could be honest mistakes.

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Sep 8, 2017 19:31:13   #
Morgan
 
son of witless wrote:
Obama is one of those who believes the ends justify the means. If it takes a lie to move an agenda forward then what is a little lie or a humongous lie for that matter. You have opened up a can of worms. To think that Obama believed what he said about the results of Obamacare strains credulity. There are a whole lot other misstatements he made that I cannot believe were honest mistakes. I will be listing them shortly and I want you to tell me how on earth they could be honest mistakes.


The truth here varies greatly by ones interpretation. I have wanted to have an opportunity to sit with an Obama hater during one of his speeches and ask, time after time after a pause..."Ok what do you think he was just saying there?"

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