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Jan 28, 2014 14:46:30   #
BoJester
 
All of the haters of the ACA should read this plan very carefully. Especially the part of the plan to tax a portion of employer provided health insurance. Meaning the worker will have to pay MORE taxes

Most of the ACA is kept as is, but the mandate would be eliminated if a person has had "continuous insurance coverage". Want to bet that more workers will get "furloughed"?

Since this is just a proposal, nothing is likely to happen unless republicans would somehow win the senate and the presidency.

This should be enough to prevent that from ever happening.

Probably will not be a big topic of discussion for the fools at faux or fat limblowhard




http://www.mainstreet.com/article/family/family-health/obamacare-replacement-proposed-republicans?page=1

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Jan 28, 2014 15:21:43   #
vernon
 
BoJester wrote:
All of the haters of the ACA should read this plan very carefully. Especially the part of the plan to tax a portion of employer provided health insurance. Meaning the worker will have to pay MORE taxes

Most of the ACA is kept as is, but the mandate would be eliminated if a person has had "continuous insurance coverage". Want to bet that more workers will get "furloughed"?

Since this is just a proposal, nothing is likely to happen unless republicans would somehow win the senate and the presidency.

This should be enough to prevent that from ever happening.

Probably will not be a big topic of discussion for the fools at faux or fat limblowhard




http://www.mainstreet.com/article/family/family-health/obamacare-replacement-proposed-republicans?page=1
All of the haters of the ACA should read this plan... (show quote)


well its about time to
listen to the pretender lie and spout off for a couple of hours ,that is if you have nothing to do.
asfar as the rep proposal at least they showed theirs you still dont know whats in that shit pelosi put out.

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Jan 28, 2014 15:29:03   #
madshark
 
This is awesome! The Republicans proposing a healthcare "reform" which would raise taxes and increase regulation. This is NOT a conservative proposal. A conservative proposal would reduce taxes and regulation, increase access and portability and benefit the American people. Not simply be Pookiecare light.

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Jan 28, 2014 15:34:24   #
BoJester
 
No need for you to watch the SOTUS, you wouldn't understand it anyhow.

And I hope the republcians get their way and increase YOUR taxes.

We all just love hearing you squeal like a pig




vernon wrote:
well its about time to
listen to the pretender lie and spout off for a couple of hours ,that is if you have nothing to do.
asfar as the rep proposal at least they showed theirs you still dont know whats in that shit pelosi put out.

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Jan 28, 2014 15:35:54   #
BoJester
 
A conservative proposal would be NO healthcare for any but the wealthy.

Might even exclude you.

That would be a shame







madshark wrote:
This is awesome! The Republicans proposing a healthcare "reform" which would raise taxes and increase regulation. This is NOT a conservative proposal. A conservative proposal would reduce taxes and regulation, increase access and portability and benefit the American people. Not simply be Pookiecare light.

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Jan 28, 2014 17:35:18   #
pana Loc: are we there yet?
 
The gift that just keeps giving. Many have been forced off policies they were happy with and wouldn't have had their estates stolen from their kids after they passed on. This is just more thieving the people.
OBRA 1993 requires all states that receive Medicaid funding to seek recovery from the estates of deceased individuals who used Medicaid benefits at age 55 or older. It allows recovery for any items or services under the state Medicaid plan going beyond nursing homes and other long-term care institutions. In fact, The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) site says that states have the option of recovering payments for all Medicaid services provided. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) site says at state option, recovery can be pursued for any items covered by the Medicaid state plan.

b) The HHS site has an overview of the Medicaid estate recovery mandate which also says that at a minimum, states must pursue recoveries from the “probate estate,” which includes property that passes to the heirs under state probate law, but states can expand the definition of estate to allow recovery from property that bypasses probate. This means states can use procedures for direct recovery from bank accounts and other funds.

c) Some states use recovery for RX and hospital only as required by OBRA 1993; some recover for a few additional benefits and some recover for all benefits under the state plan. Recovery provides revenue for cash-strapped states and it’s a big business.

Your estate is what you own when you die – your home and what’s in it, other real estate you may own, your bank account, annuities and so on. And even if you have a will, your heirs are chopped liver. Low-income people often have only one major asset – the home in which they live and, in some cases, this has been the family home through several generations.

So what this boils down to is: if you are put into Medicaid – congratulations – you just got a mandated collateral loan if you use Medicaid benefits at age 55 or older! States keep a running tally.



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Jan 28, 2014 17:57:52   #
BoJester
 
Republicans want to tax your employer provided health insurance.

I'm sure you like that, which was the same thing mccain/palin wanted to do










pana wrote:
The gift that just keeps giving. Many have been forced off policies they were happy with and wouldn't have had their estates stolen from their kids after they passed on. This is just more thieving the people.
OBRA 1993 requires all states that receive Medicaid funding to seek recovery from the estates of deceased individuals who used Medicaid benefits at age 55 or older. It allows recovery for any items or services under the state Medicaid plan going beyond nursing homes and other long-term care institutions. In fact, The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) site says that states have the option of recovering payments for all Medicaid services provided. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) site says at state option, recovery can be pursued for any items covered by the Medicaid state plan.

b) The HHS site has an overview of the Medicaid estate recovery mandate which also says that at a minimum, states must pursue recoveries from the “probate estate,” which includes property that passes to the heirs under state probate law, but states can expand the definition of estate to allow recovery from property that bypasses probate. This means states can use procedures for direct recovery from bank accounts and other funds.

c) Some states use recovery for RX and hospital only as required by OBRA 1993; some recover for a few additional benefits and some recover for all benefits under the state plan. Recovery provides revenue for cash-strapped states and it’s a big business.

Your estate is what you own when you die – your home and what’s in it, other real estate you may own, your bank account, annuities and so on. And even if you have a will, your heirs are chopped liver. Low-income people often have only one major asset – the home in which they live and, in some cases, this has been the family home through several generations.

So what this boils down to is: if you are put into Medicaid – congratulations – you just got a mandated collateral loan if you use Medicaid benefits at age 55 or older! States keep a running tally.
The gift that just keeps giving. Many have been fo... (show quote)

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Jan 28, 2014 21:16:14   #
vernon
 
BoJester wrote:
No need for you to watch the SOTUS, you wouldn't understand it anyhow.

And I hope the republcians get their way and increase YOUR taxes.

We all just love hearing you squeal like a pig



oh you dont pay taxes .you must be on welfare

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Jan 28, 2014 22:01:00   #
BoJester
 
You are always so wrong with everything you post, it is a good thing you are not a sports book or fortune teller.

You would be broke and on food stamps, hell maybe you are now, maybe that's why you whine so much.







vernon wrote:
oh you dont pay taxes .you must be on welfare

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Jan 29, 2014 05:34:44   #
pana Loc: are we there yet?
 
Bo doesn't seem to understand what MODIFIED ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME (MAGI) is. Here sweetie, let me help you out.
Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) is defined as Adjusted Gross Income PLUS
a) all tax exempt interest accrued or received in the taxable year;
b) the non-taxable portion of Social Security benefits provided under Title II of the Social Security Act which includes old-age benefits, disability benefits, spousal benefits, child benefits, survivor benefits and parental benefits;
c) tier 1 Railroad Retirement benefits that are not includible in gross income; and
d) the exclusion from gross income for citizens or residents living abroad.

The adoption of MAGI, created by the ACA, is defined in a new section of the IRS code. That's right. Created just for Obama care.
Let’s say you apply for insurance at an Exchange in 2014. Therefore, 2014 is the tax year you will receive your tax credit, and per the ACA, the amount you receive must be based on that year’s MAGI. But, that year’s MAGI won’t be available until 2015 when you file your 2014 tax return and you need help paying for your insurance plan when you buy it in 2014. So, the amount of your tax credit has to be determined on information that is available such as your prior-year (2013) tax return. Thus, the tax credit morphs into an ‘advance payment of the tax credit’

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Jan 29, 2014 18:13:19   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
BoJester wrote:
You are always so wrong with everything you post, it is a good thing you are not a sports book or fortune teller.

You would be broke and on food stamps, hell maybe you are now, maybe that's why you whine so much.


Troll hole !

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Jan 29, 2014 18:18:26   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
BoJester wrote:
All of the haters of the ACA should read this plan very carefully. Especially the part of the plan to tax a portion of employer provided health insurance. Meaning the worker will have to pay MORE taxes

Most of the ACA is kept as is, but the mandate would be eliminated if a person has had "continuous insurance coverage". Want to bet that more workers will get "furloughed"?

Since this is just a proposal, nothing is likely to happen unless republicans would somehow win the senate and the presidency.

This should be enough to prevent that from ever happening.

Probably will not be a big topic of discussion for the fools at faux or fat limblowhard




http://www.mainstreet.com/article/family/family-health/obamacare-replacement-proposed-republicans?page=1
All of the haters of the ACA should read this plan... (show quote)


There are other patient provider based ideas like what Ben Carson has suggested. That actually assists in helping families keep their assets.

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Jan 29, 2014 19:23:09   #
BoJester
 
You are just about to join your other retards in the ranks of the chronically stupid






Constitutional libertarian wrote:
Troll hole !

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Jan 29, 2014 19:24:40   #
BoJester
 
If you think the carsoncare plan has merit, I would like to see how much or how little you know.

carsoncare has even more government involvement than the ACA





Constitutional libertarian wrote:
There are other patient provider based ideas like what Ben Carson has suggested. That actually assists in helping families keep their assets.

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Jan 29, 2014 19:27:54   #
dbleach3
 
madshark wrote:
This is awesome! The Republicans proposing a healthcare "reform" which would raise taxes and increase regulation. This is NOT a conservative proposal. A conservative proposal would reduce taxes and regulation, increase access and portability and benefit the American people. Not simply be Pookiecare light.


A true conservarive proposal would allow us to purchase health insurance as we buy personsl property insurance.

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