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Jan 28, 2014 15:42:48   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Slingblade68 wrote:
Apology accepted and confirmed. I recognized that it was not necessarily directed at me. However, you were "spot on" with your summation. It was an error on my part. Carry on my friend.

I just noticed that myself, so I guess I was right the first time. :-D :D.

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Jan 28, 2014 15:53:47   #
Slingblade68 Loc: Charleston SC
 
Roger that,

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Jan 28, 2014 15:56:53   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
emarine wrote:
You must be new to America... or you have a very selective memory of just how Presidents have lied to the American citizens...if you are new to America this may not apply
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a person who is bigoted.
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Jan 28, 2014 15:58:42   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Slingblade68 wrote:
Roger that,

Slingblade, seriously, this is something that seems to afflict a lot of people here. If you could click on the "Quote Reply" button before you post then we would all know who you're talking to. Thanks.

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Jan 28, 2014 16:02:02   #
emarine
 
Slingblade68 wrote:
Again you are proving my point. I never suggested that the Anointed one is the only President to lie. However, the last two that where called to the Matt on the issue of lying to the Masses resigned and the other was Impeached respectively. Unfortunately, the latter did not have enough votes in the Senate to secure his demise. Now he Parades around like a rock star. Again, it's the law and I have to respect that. Even if I disagree with the determination.

Nixon on the other Hand, was no more nefarious than the man who now controls the powers that be. I judge a man on the content of his character Period. I may disagree with Bill Clinton, however, he did manage to balance a budget. Even if it was with cuts to our military. You have to be willing to compromise , or there is no place for you in politics.

Furthermore, be willing to cross the isles and negotiate your position. Our Republic , moreover, Our Constitution was not written so Tyranny could reign over Liberty. On the contrary, ruling by Fiat is against the law...

3728 executive orders were signed by FDR. That's not a typo.
Three thousand seven hundred and twenty eight. That is a convenient way of circumventing the Constitution.

You should read Plato's Republic.



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I find it ironic how conveniently you skip over the Bush's when referencing lying Presidents... You choose to speculate over the few in Benghazi and ignore the thousands lost and wounded in Iraq...Selective memory on a epic scale... Is it the fact you voted for Bush twice and were totally duped... your entire argument is pathetically transparent to anyone who can think for themselves.

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Jan 28, 2014 16:24:04   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
emarine wrote:
So you have been with us for a while... good...you want realistic sane conversation with insane bigoted statements about Presidents and lies.... like Obama is the first and only one to lie... How realistic and accurate... a rational discourse on the facts... start with this fact... every president has lied about something... most lies much worse than this President... big lie over health care vs lies over wars... selective memory on a epic scale, go sell your crap to someone naïve enough to listen.
So you have been with us for a while... good...you... (show quote)


I think the point is the topic is about beliefs bout the current President. It seems whenever a possible prevarication by the current President is mentioned a segment of posters must rush back to cite Bush's prevarications. Staying on topic, which is President Obama, would be more useful. Perhaps no one has noticed. Bush is no longer in office.

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Jan 28, 2014 16:32:09   #
BoJester
 
Perhap you didn't notice this topic was about the faux spin and lies.

But then the faux, fat limblow and teapartyconservative tactic is deflection and distortion when they can't face facts






AuntiE wrote:
I think the point is the topic is about beliefs bout the current President. It seems whenever a possible prevarication by the current President is mentioned a segment of posters must rush back to cite Bush's prevarications. Staying on topic, which is President Obama, would be more useful. Perhaps no one has noticed. Bush is no longer in office.

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Jan 28, 2014 16:46:42   #
Slingblade68 Loc: Charleston SC
 
emarine wrote:
I find it ironic how conveniently you skip over the Bush's when referencing lying Presidents... You choose to speculate over the few in Benghazi and ignore the thousands lost and wounded in Iraq...Selective memory on a epic scale... Is it the fact you voted for Bush twice and were totally duped... your entire argument is pathetically transparent to anyone who can think for themselves.


I didn't "Skip over" the Bush years. I simply was affording you with the facts. Did the Bush presidents look the American people in the eye and categorically lie to them. I recognize, moreover, have a heavy heart for every American who has sacrificed his life for any reason. Going all the way back to our Own revolutionary war . Moreover Our Civil war. I am not minimizing any human loss. Unfortunately collateral damage is all part of defending freedom. Even if it's not our own.

I never "Speculated " over Benghazi. I reviewed all the pertinent information provided . Including the hearings on same. Read the transcripts from both the select committee and those that were actually there. How objective and unbiased that information was is relative. I am not privy to everything. No man is. I read all that is available, watch the hearings etc. and reach a logical unbiased conclusion. I didn't agree with Bushes reaction to 911 with the "Home land Security" action. In fact there are a number of issues I have with every president . Men are fallible.

I do have a problem when the Constitution is circumvented . Not only for political gain,moreover for an unrealistic ideology. We all would enjoy living in a utopian , euphoric state. Unfortunately, That is a Fantasy. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I am not here to discuss Bush, Nixon, Clinton or any-other previous President. I simply provided them as examples. This particular segment of this site is dedicated for the (Occasionally) objective overview of Our current Ruler. That is the Ball you must keep your eye on. I am not here to debate past Presidents by playing the Deny then Blame game. Ask yourself one pertinent question. Are you better off today, than you were five years ago.

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Jan 28, 2014 16:54:46   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Slingblade68 wrote:
I didn't "Skip over" the Bush years. I simply was affording you with the facts. Did the Bush presidents look the American people in the eye and categorically lie to them. I recognize, moreover, have a heavy heart for every American who has sacrificed his life for any reason. Going all the way back to our Own revolutionary war . Moreover Our Civil war. I am not minimizing any human loss. Unfortunately collateral damage is all part of defending freedom. Even if it's not our own.

I never "Speculated " over Benghazi. I reviewed all the pertinent information provided . Including the hearings on same. Read the transcripts from both the select committee and those that were actually there. How objective and unbiased that information was is relative. I am not privy to everything. No man is. I read all that is available, watch the hearings etc. and reach a logical unbiased conclusion. I didn't agree with Bushes reaction to 911 with the "Home land Security" action. In fact there are a number of issues I have with every president . Men are fallible.

I do have a problem when the Constitution is circumvented . Not only for political gain,moreover for an unrealistic ideology. We all would enjoy living in a utopian , euphoric state. Unfortunately, That is a Fantasy. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I am not here to discuss Bush, Nixon, Clinton or any-other previous President. I simply provided them as examples. This particular segment of this site is dedicated for the (Occasionally) objective overview of Our current Ruler. That is the Ball you must keep your eye on. I am not here to debate past Presidents by playing the Deny then Blame game. Ask yourself one pertinent question. Are you better off today, than you were five years ago.
I didn't "Skip over" the Bush years. I s... (show quote)


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Jan 28, 2014 17:00:28   #
BoJester
 
The original post was about the way the fools at faux spin the news to suit their own narrative, especially about the current president.






Slingblade68 wrote:
I didn't "Skip over" the Bush years. I simply was affording you with the facts. Did the Bush presidents look the American people in the eye and categorically lie to them. I recognize, moreover, have a heavy heart for every American who has sacrificed his life for any reason. Going all the way back to our Own revolutionary war . Moreover Our Civil war. I am not minimizing any human loss. Unfortunately collateral damage is all part of defending freedom. Even if it's not our own.

I never "Speculated " over Benghazi. I reviewed all the pertinent information provided . Including the hearings on same. Read the transcripts from both the select committee and those that were actually there. How objective and unbiased that information was is relative. I am not privy to everything. No man is. I read all that is available, watch the hearings etc. and reach a logical unbiased conclusion. I didn't agree with Bushes reaction to 911 with the "Home land Security" action. In fact there are a number of issues I have with every president . Men are fallible.

I do have a problem when the Constitution is circumvented . Not only for political gain,moreover for an unrealistic ideology. We all would enjoy living in a utopian , euphoric state. Unfortunately, That is a Fantasy. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I am not here to discuss Bush, Nixon, Clinton or any-other previous President. I simply provided them as examples. This particular segment of this site is dedicated for the (Occasionally) objective overview of Our current Ruler. That is the Ball you must keep your eye on. I am not here to debate past Presidents by playing the Deny then Blame game. Ask yourself one pertinent question. Are you better off today, than you were five years ago.
I didn't "Skip over" the Bush years. I s... (show quote)

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Jan 28, 2014 17:05:16   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
BoJester wrote:
The original post was about the way the fools at faux spin the news to suit their own narrative, especially about the current president.

Yes, Bo, we get it. Do you even watch Fox News? If you do, why, since you have such a low opinion of it?

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Jan 28, 2014 17:07:11   #
Liberty Tree
 
LAPhil wrote:
Yes, Bo, we get it. Do you even watch Fox News? If you do, why, since you have such a low opinion of it?


He has no opinion of his own. He just repeats DNC talking points.

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Jan 28, 2014 17:09:02   #
jackmcgr1
 
You still didn't ANSWER MY QUESTION!

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Jan 28, 2014 17:20:27   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
BoJester wrote:
Perhap you didn't notice this topic was about the faux spin and lies.

But then the faux, fat limblow and teapartyconservative tactic is deflection and distortion when they can't face facts


I did read the link. I am aware of the topic; however, it was Fox News in reference to the current President. I would say both sides are excellent at "deflection and distortion". For every I accuracy Fox issues, it is likely MSNBC has Don the same. Are you unable to understand each has an agenda. The same is applicable to print media and internet news media.

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Jan 28, 2014 17:39:09   #
Slingblade68 Loc: Charleston SC
 
BoJester wrote:
The original post was about the way the fools at faux spin the news to suit their own narrative, especially about the current president.


Acknowledged and recognized. However, You have CNN,ABC,CBS,NPR, MSNBC, Huffington Post, New York Times, Wall Street journal, Newsweek, Mother Jones, the list is a veritable smorgasbord of Biased information. Shall I continue ? Or would enjoy me affording you the hundreds of fettered publications professing the the Anointed One's rhetoric.

Fox news may lean a bit to the right. However, they are not telling Americans "What to think" they are simply providing "The rest of the story". There job is to entertain and inform. Mark Styne, Michele Malkin, Marl levin, Plato, Madison, Jefferson all exemplify the other side of our political landscape. It's your "Free will" that is the determining factor as to what you conclude as the truth.

My motto is "Don't tell me... Show me" Dana Perino was the press secretary for GW. She said in an interview that she never spoke "Out of School" on any issue unless she had conclusive, quantitative,qualitative, empirical, evidence to back up same. In short , she refused to answers questions that she didn't have an answer too. She never, went out and blatantly misrepresented the facts. Or even the facts as she knew them. Why? Because she has integrity. I respect her, not only for her resolve . Moreover , because she doesn't follow party lines . Simply for that sake.

If you want to compare and contrast Fox news and all the other competing News organizations.. Let's have a rational debate on their collective contributions to an Unbiased media.
Can you please look up some of Chris Mathews quotes .. You might be surprised ..

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