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Jul 5, 2017 23:40:23   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
I am sure that more women, especially in combat, was the beginning of Obama's attempt to weaken our military as much as possible. I also think that what he demanded concerning transexuals has weakened the thinking of both of our sexes in the military. Ash Carter and Obama worked very hard to weaken our military in the last days of the Obama administration. Here is an article that I really tells the story and tells how Mattis has worked to straighten it all out. If the work of Carter and Obama is allowed to continue coming into effect we may have real rebellion in our military. This article is about what should have taken place on July 1 that Mattis allowed to just sit. Maybe in 6 more months he can get things righted from Obama's attempt to weaken our military. I sure hope so.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/07/05/new-army-training-tells-female-soldiers-put-naked-men-showers/

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Jul 6, 2017 01:29:05   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
oldroy wrote:
I am sure that more women, especially in combat, was the beginning of Obama's attempt to weaken our military as much as possible. I also think that what he demanded concerning transexuals has weakened the thinking of both of our sexes in the military. Ash Carter and Obama worked very hard to weaken our military in the last days of the Obama administration. Here is an article that I really tells the story and tells how Mattis has worked to straighten it all out. If the work of Carter and Obama is allowed to continue coming into effect we may have real rebellion in our military. This article is about what should have taken place on July 1 that Mattis allowed to just sit. Maybe in 6 more months he can get things righted from Obama's attempt to weaken our military. I sure hope so.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/07/05/new-army-training-tells-female-soldiers-put-naked-men-showers/
I am sure that more women, especially in combat, w... (show quote)


That doesn't bother me as much as the fact that queers with mental problems are now going to get free sex change surgery on the tax payers dollar. Once that is available, every loony wanting a sex change will be enlisting. Of course, he/she/it will need surgery/recovery/mental counseling, and won't ever be of any real use to the military unit they are in.

Does anyone want want to whip out their cell phone calculator and total how much these fools are going to cost the taxpayers? Wasted training, wasted uniforms, wasted medical facilities, wasted paperwork, moral decay of the military, thanks leftist moonbats.

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Jul 6, 2017 03:29:01   #
E
 
I'm trying to think of any use for women on the front lines of combat. They can be used to take charge of women civilians and women prisoners and ah...ah... I think that is it.

Transsexuals: ah...ah...ah...not a thing.

With a president like the last one and of course Clinton, there has been a definite down turn on the overall capabilities of our military. Sorry ladies and those that aren't sure. The military isn't a social experiment. The men of our military are just weapons for our Generals and Admirals to effectively use to create victory. You aren't as efficient at the hard core fighting that is or might be in our future. And any extra training to try to bring you up to the level that is required of men is time and money that could be used on men making them even better yet.

Is there a position for women, yes? As previously stated. And that might require special training. But any REAL integration into the main unit is nothing more then a degradation of the potential of the overall fighting machine. An auxiliary force, maybe.

As for transsexuals. Forget it. Totally. Permanently. That is just more stupid rhetoric and a deterioration of our military forces as so many on the left would have it. Sorry, but our men are there to fight wars and not fight for social experimentation. There is no way it increases the overall efficiency of the fighting unit. It degrades it. You can't mandate idiocy and make it work among men of the quality and mental disposition of the men of our fighting forces.

Yes, I'm a veteran. I would never have signed up to fight with women and these other pussies that the last president tries to force down on us. I would always want someone I can count on as an integral member of the fighting unit, not a distraction.

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Jul 6, 2017 05:13:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Trooper745 wrote:
That doesn't bother me as much as the fact that queers with mental problems are now going to get free sex change surgery on the tax payers dollar. Once that is available, every loony wanting a sex change will be enlisting. Of course, he/she/it will need surgery/recovery/mental counseling, and won't ever be of any real use to the military unit they are in.

Does anyone want want to whip out their cell phone calculator and total how much these fools are going to cost the taxpayers? Wasted training, wasted uniforms, wasted medical facilities, wasted paperwork, moral decay of the military, thanks leftist moonbats.
That doesn't bother me as much as the fact that qu... (show quote)


I have said this before..... Women have no business in combat units. Once more, I offer as an example an incident in my AIT.
We took a little nature stroll along the lines of a 17.5 mile forced march with full gear in a pouring rainstorm.
Our company had 298 men and 8 women. The men had to carry full rucksacks weighing around 50 pounds, plus their weapons and web gear. (Lucky effing me got to tote an M-60.) the women did not have to carry rucksacks, only their weapons and web gear.
Every man in the company completed the march. Not one of the women was able to, after 3 months of intense PT 6 days a week.
Women are not able to meet the physical demands of combat in many cases. They simply lack the strength and endurance. I am sure there are a handful of exceptions, but those are rare.

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Jul 6, 2017 06:08:13   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
E wrote:
I'm trying to think of any use for women on the front lines of combat. They can be used to take charge of women civilians and women prisoners and ah...ah... I think that is it.

Transsexuals: ah...ah...ah...not a thing.

With a president like the last one and of course Clinton, there has been a definite down turn on the overall capabilities of our military. Sorry ladies and those that aren't sure. The military isn't a social experiment. The men of our military are just weapons for our Generals and Admirals to effectively use to create victory. You aren't as efficient at the hard core fighting that is or might be in our future. And any extra training to try to bring you up to the level that is required of men is time and money that could be used on men making them even better yet.

Is there a position for women, yes? As previously stated. And that might require special training. But any REAL integration into the main unit is nothing more then a degradation of the potential of the overall fighting machine. An auxiliary force, maybe.

As for transsexuals. Forget it. Totally. Permanently. That is just more stupid rhetoric and a deterioration of our military forces as so many on the left would have it. Sorry, but our men are there to fight wars and not fight for social experimentation. There is no way it increases the overall efficiency of the fighting unit. It degrades it. You can't mandate idiocy and make it work among men of the quality and mental disposition of the men of our fighting forces.

Yes, I'm a veteran. I would never have signed up to fight with women and these other pussies that the last president tries to force down on us. I would always want someone I can count on as an integral member of the fighting unit, not a distraction.
I'm trying to think of any use for women on the fr... (show quote)


SEMPER FI !!!!! Truth dose matter !!!

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Jul 6, 2017 07:53:50   #
sweetlips
 

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Jul 6, 2017 09:51:55   #
boatbob2
 
NO QUEERS IN OUR MILITARY !!!!!!!!!!

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Jul 6, 2017 11:33:17   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Loki wrote:
I have said this before..... Women have no business in combat units. Once more, I offer as an example an incident in my AIT.
We took a little nature stroll along the lines of a 17.5 mile forced march with full gear in a pouring rainstorm.
Our company had 298 men and 8 women. The men had to carry full rucksacks weighing around 50 pounds, plus their weapons and web gear. (Lucky effing me got to tote an M-60.) the women did not have to carry rucksacks, only their weapons and web gear.
Every man in the company completed the march. Not one of the women was able to, after 3 months of intense PT 6 days a week.
Women are not able to meet the physical demands of combat in many cases. They simply lack the strength and endurance. I am sure there are a handful of exceptions, but those are rare.
I have said this before..... Women have no busines... (show quote)


You are absolutely correct. That is why males who are below average in physical strength are now claiming they are really female so they can participate in sports competitions as women AND WE CANNOT STOP THAT FRAUD.

SWMBO (NPPs wife)

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Jul 6, 2017 13:08:10   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
E wrote:
I'm trying to think of any use for women on the front lines of combat. They can be used to take charge of women civilians and women prisoners and ah...ah... I think that is it.

Transsexuals: ah...ah...ah...not a thing.

With a president like the last one and of course Clinton, there has been a definite down turn on the overall capabilities of our military. Sorry ladies and those that aren't sure. The military isn't a social experiment. The men of our military are just weapons for our Generals and Admirals to effectively use to create victory. You aren't as efficient at the hard core fighting that is or might be in our future. And any extra training to try to bring you up to the level that is required of men is time and money that could be used on men making them even better yet.

Is there a position for women, yes? As previously stated. And that might require special training. But any REAL integration into the main unit is nothing more then a degradation of the potential of the overall fighting machine. An auxiliary force, maybe.

As for transsexuals. Forget it. Totally. Permanently. That is just more stupid rhetoric and a deterioration of our military forces as so many on the left would have it. Sorry, but our men are there to fight wars and not fight for social experimentation. There is no way it increases the overall efficiency of the fighting unit. It degrades it. You can't mandate idiocy and make it work among men of the quality and mental disposition of the men of our fighting forces.

Yes, I'm a veteran. I would never have signed up to fight with women and these other pussies that the last president tries to force down on us. I would always want someone I can count on as an integral member of the fighting unit, not a distraction.
I'm trying to think of any use for women on the fr... (show quote)


I guess I may be a much older veteran than you. We went to school for 6 months to be DF operators and were told over and over again that just doing our job was the same as it would be in combat. Of course, back there in the mid-50s combat was done by combat units not guerrillas like today. We would have been working in the same facilities if there had been a war we did then. We sat on our butts in tiny little huts that fit on trucks and in fact never got off those trucks. Our purpose was to tell others where Iron Curtain country forces were located by listening to their radio communications. Our methods disappeared many years ago but we were needed back then. In 1956 we were able to identify all of the 200 tanks the Russians surrounded Hungary with. The same year we located and kept track of every warship in the Suez area. That includes the British and French, our allies.

We went to school at Ft. Devens, Mass. and were stationed with an infantry unit that "owned" the fort. Anyway they had a fine name that they called us since we didn't have to do soldierly things. They called us "titless WACS" and we laughed at them since most of them couldn't and for sure didn't qualify for our jobs. Everybody took tests to determine that and obviously they couldn't "pass" the test. There no women in the Army then, other than WACS, so none of them got to do our job. I never knew there was a "queer" around me but I am sure they were around then.

I am very much against all the attempts to weaken our military forces that Obama went through but thought I would suggest that we had some good troops back in the Cold War days who wouldn't have been much more heavily armed (M1 carbines) than we were even when a real war could have broken out any day. I have always been glad that we didn't have to serve with all these women and weirdoes.

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Jul 6, 2017 13:32:23   #
GmanTerry
 
Loki wrote:
I have said this before..... Women have no business in combat units. Once more, I offer as an example an incident in my AIT.
We took a little nature stroll along the lines of a 17.5 mile forced march with full gear in a pouring rainstorm.
Our company had 298 men and 8 women. The men had to carry full rucksacks weighing around 50 pounds, plus their weapons and web gear. (Lucky effing me got to tote an M-60.) the women did not have to carry rucksacks, only their weapons and web gear.
Every man in the company completed the march. Not one of the women was able to, after 3 months of intense PT 6 days a week.
Women are not able to meet the physical demands of combat in many cases. They simply lack the strength and endurance. I am sure there are a handful of exceptions, but those are rare.
I have said this before..... Women have no busines... (show quote)


I totally 100% agree. It's the best way to get men killed, protecting women in combat.

Semper Fi

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Jul 6, 2017 15:31:47   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
GmanTerry wrote:
I totally 100% agree. It's the best way to get men killed, protecting women in combat.

Semper Fi


The woman who was my foster daughter wouldn't need much protection in combat. She wasn't issued weapons while she ran a mess hall in Kuwait for about 2 years although she could have used something when she turned in some officers for selling Army food to the natives. She was given an M4 and two 9 mm pistols while she was in Afghanistan for nearly a year.

Nope, I don't think she would have cost the lives of any men in combat although she may have saved some. She had lifted weights since high school along with being a college track athlete. She never stopped running and lifting till she injured a knee on the job a couple of years ago. She was tough and baaaad mostly because of her athletic ability.

You guys do know that there are many jobs in the military that women can handle since so few of the soldiers actually take part in combat, I hope. As I said, my job was very necessary to keep our people informed about the Iron Curtain countries. You do know what the Iron Curtain was, I take it. I agree that women should not take part in combat but there are many jobs they can do as well, if not better, than trannies.

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Jul 6, 2017 16:20:25   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
oldroy wrote:
The woman who was my foster daughter wouldn't need much protection in combat. She wasn't issued weapons while she ran a mess hall in Kuwait for about 2 years although she could have used something when she turned in some officers for selling Army food to the natives. She was given an M4 and two 9 mm pistols while she was in Afghanistan for nearly a year.

Nope, I don't think she would have cost the lives of any men in combat although she may have saved some. She had lifted weights since high school along with being a college track athlete. She never stopped running and lifting till she injured a knee on the job a couple of years ago. She was tough and baaaad mostly because of her athletic ability.

You guys do know that there are many jobs in the military that women can handle since so few of the soldiers actually take part in combat, I hope. As I said, my job was very necessary to keep our people informed about the Iron Curtain countries. You do know what the Iron Curtain was, I take it. I agree that women should not take part in combat but there are many jobs they can do as well, if not better, than trannies.
The woman who was my foster daughter wouldn't need... (show quote)


Roy, I never said women shouldn't be in the military. They should not be in grunt infantry units. It requires strength, and above all, endurance that most women just don't have. A chain is as strong as it's weakest link. A woman who cannot carry her full load and keep up is a liability to herself and the rest of the unit, all to prove some bullshit political point.

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Jul 6, 2017 17:35:03   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
no propaganda please wrote:
You are absolutely correct. That is why males who are below average in physical strength are now claiming they are really female so they can participate in sports competitions as women AND WE CANNOT STOP THAT FRAUD.

SWMBO (NPPs wife)


Everyone is, at conception, blessed with either an XX = female or XY = male set of sex chromosomes. That it. That's all the sexes there are. Everything else is made up utter bull. Conceded there are ultra rare cases. perhaps one in 10 million where there are aberrations in the sex chromosomes. So, what, there are perhaps 300 such in the nation and they can be accommodated as the demand arrives. In the other cases, Gay, Lesbian people can cope perfectly well within their genetic coding and their lifestyles. Their choice with their lives. The self mutilating so called "trans sexuals" need to see shrinks, not surgeons. How an MD could operate on anyone like that violates their oath, "First: do no harm." is clearly out of order. Anything else is stupidity.

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Jul 6, 2017 18:58:53   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
peter11937 wrote:
Everyone is, at conception, blessed with either an XX = female or XY = male set of sex chromosomes. That it. That's all the sexes there are. Everything else is made up utter bull. Conceded there are ultra rare cases. perhaps one in 10 million where there are aberrations in the sex chromosomes. So, what, there are perhaps 300 such in the nation and they can be accommodated as the demand arrives. In the other cases, Gay, Lesbian people can cope perfectly well within their genetic coding and their lifestyles. Their choice with their lives. The self mutilating so called "trans sexuals" need to see shrinks, not surgeons. How an MD could operate on anyone like that violates their oath, "First: do no harm." is clearly out of order. Anything else is stupidity.
Everyone is, at conception, blessed with either an... (show quote)


Clearly, you have never known a transexual. I have known 2 in my lifetime, out of a lot of people. Both were aware that their gender did not match their genitals at a very young age. Both went through extensive psychiatric examination and counseling. Both are now living within their gender identity. To my knowledge, neither had surgery.

I figure it's their business. Then again, neither even considered military service, which is a good thing. I agree that they are unfit for military service, except perhaps in a service role such as medical or office work. There are very few transgender adults in the U.S. Live and let live, I suppose..

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Jul 6, 2017 19:21:27   #
Carol Kelly
 
oldroy wrote:
I am sure that more women, especially in combat, was the beginning of Obama's attempt to weaken our military as much as possible. I also think that what he demanded concerning transexuals has weakened the thinking of both of our sexes in the military. Ash Carter and Obama worked very hard to weaken our military in the last days of the Obama administration. Here is an article that I really tells the story and tells how Mattis has worked to straighten it all out. If the work of Carter and Obama is allowed to continue coming into effect we may have real rebellion in our military. This article is about what should have taken place on July 1 that Mattis allowed to just sit. Maybe in 6 more months he can get things righted from Obama's attempt to weaken our military. I sure hope so.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/07/05/new-army-training-tells-female-soldiers-put-naked-men-showers/
I am sure that more women, especially in combat, w... (show quote)


That's just plain sick. Serves no purpose. The OBAMAs were a dysfunctual family, from Michael and the hoax of their borrowed daughters. They were trying to get the laws changed and this and the shaming of men who refuse to date transgendered women is about as sick as it can get.

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