Hey teaparty, why don't you cry about this? (Page 10): Yes we can. By artificially limiting when and what individuals may contribute, we have codified the limits on free speech. Take...

madshark

Btfkr wrote:

how would YOU suggest stopping it. I'm saying the campaign system is corrupt and something needs to change. Can we agree on that much?

Yes we can. By artificially limiting when and what individuals may contribute, we have codified the limits on free speech. Take off any limits to contributions, and make all contributions immediately reportable (who amd how much). And if someone is bundling donations, a full list of every contributor and how much. Such list to be available on the candidates website, immediately. All limits should be removed from free speech. But there should benan immediate and complete exposure of who is giving what. That would be a good start.

UnionSparky Loc: left coast

Btfkr wrote:

ANYTHING FDR did the right doesn't like. After all it is the government you know and the "smaller the government the better". We will shrink the government until it will fit into a bath tub, then we will drown it".

What about a project that not only created jobs now, that also would produce revenue after the project was done?
One stroke of a pen would allow the Keystone Pipeline to begin. 20-40 thousand jobs now with the tax revenue that would keep on giving when finished.
There have already been 2 major incidences caused from the transportation by railway. Not to mention the carbon footprint from truck and railway needed to transport instead of moving the oil by pipeline.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I agree Rail shipment of oil is dangerous with derailments becomeing more common.Rail car and track design are probly the problem.I disagree with the figure of 20 to 40 thousand jobs created by construction of the Keystone pipeline. At a time when we are pushing for energy independance it makes more sense to keep domestic oil here. Build more refinerys here and keep the fuel here. Big oil wants more money.It's easy to build a pipeline as compared to refinerys and once on the world market prices will go up because our surplus would be eliminated. If a rupture of such a massive pipeline were to occure a large area of American realestate would become unihabitable. It just isn't worth the risk. Build refinerys create jos that way.reduce fuel prices here improve the economy.

UnionSparky wrote:

What about a project that not only created jobs now, that also would produce revenue after the project was done?
One stroke of a pen would allow the Keystone Pipeline to begin. 20-40 thousand jobs now with the tax revenue that would keep on giving when finished.
There have already been 2 major incidences caused from the transportation by railway. Not to mention the carbon footprint from truck and railway needed to transport instead of moving the oil by pipeline.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

First thing is get the EPA and environmentalist out the way because no one is going to build at the costs they cause.
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba603

fom wrote:

I agree Rail shipment of oil is dangerous with der... (show quote)

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Very interesting article. There certainly is a lot that has to be considered in working with government requirements and restrictions.

bmac32 wrote:

First thing is get the EPA and environmentalist out the way because no one is going to build at the costs they cause.
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba603

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

That was in 2007 and since the EPA has added another 150 pages or rules. Just imagine what taxes would be collected if they'd stop the bull.
http://www.api.org/policy/tax/apikeytaxissues/upload/api_2011_hill_tax_presentation.pdf

fom wrote:

Very interesting article. There certainly is a lot that has to be considered in working with government requirements and restrictions.

UnionSparky Loc: left coast

fom wrote:

I agree Rail shipment of oil is dangerous with der... (show quote)

I know there have been tanker spills at sea. How many pipeline bursts can you recall hearing about?

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

American realestate would become unihabitable.

So just where do you think oil comes from?

UnionSparky wrote:

I know there have been tanker spills at sea. How many pipeline bursts can you recall hearing about?

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

BoJester wrote:

Not worried at all. Teaparty is a lot of bluster and empty rhetoric.

Call me when they become a real party

Yeah. Like you'd ever want to be a real PATRIOTIC American.

Retired669

UnionSparky wrote:

I know there have been tanker spills at sea. How many pipeline bursts can you recall hearing about?

Plenty.....Do a search on "Oil Pipelines Breaking". There's even pictures for those of you that can't read very well.

BoJester

Unlike you, I don't hate the government when someone I disagee with is in office.

Guess that makes me MORE patriotic than the likes of you

Nuclearian wrote:

Yeah. Like you'd ever want to be a real PATRIOTIC American.

Alicia Loc: NYC

bmac32 wrote:

First thing is get the EPA and environmentalist out the way because no one is going to build at the costs they cause.
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba603

Without the EPA the oil companies will continue what they've been doing all along with their total lack of consideration for the environment and, especially, the people and their properties.

There have been too many cases where whole towns were left deserted due to these practices.

I am a member of a local anti-fracking organization. I certainly don't want to be able to set the water coming from my tap on fire.

BoJester

No EPA? and then they cry when they are accused of wanting 'dirty air and dirty water'.

Guess they don't realize they can't have it both ways.

Alicia wrote:

Without the EPA the oil companies will continue what they've been doing all along with their total lack of consideration for the environment and, especially, the people and their properties.

There have been too many cases where whole towns were left deserted due to these practices.

I am a member of a local anti-fracking organization. I certainly don't want to be able to set the water coming from my tap on fire.

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

BoJester wrote:

Tax exempts like the NFL keep your taxes high.

Oh get real!! Those richy liberals dont want to pay taxes.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Alicia wrote:

Without the EPA the oil companies will continue what they've been doing all along with their total lack of consideration for the environment and, especially, the people and their properties.

There have been too many cases where whole towns were left deserted due to these practices.

I am a member of a local anti-fracking organization. I certainly don't want to be able to set the water coming from my tap on fire.

Name one town "deserted due to these practices"? And what practices are you delineating.
I suppose you ar unaware of the community where flammable gas coming out of a faucet is nowhere near anyplace where fracking is being utilized. The "dangers" of fracking is a left wing myth, just as global warming/climate control is caused by man.