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May 26, 2017 21:06:15   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Homestead wrote:
Don't get dragged into a war between the different sects of Christianity.

Each sect thinks that theirs is the true one.

If your following Christ, you are a Christian.


Not according to the Bible.

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May 27, 2017 04:22:34   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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They think they are special people loved by God. Fact is they are population of Sodom and Gomorrah.



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May 27, 2017 07:19:06   #
Unintended Consequences
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Of course the Pope wants us to accept them. It would reduce the number he has to deal with.

And technically, and I know I'll take heat for this, but technically according to mainstream Christianity, Catholicism is not Christian.


Well that's interesting since the Catholic Church can trace it's history back to the apostles, the first followers of Christ.

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May 27, 2017 10:03:26   #
Kazudy
 
Unintended,you are confusing the Catholic Church with the Roman Catholic Church. Catholic means Universal. The Roman Catholic Church claims that Peter was the first Pope,but Peter was married and we know how the Roman Catholic Church feels about married priests. And for some reason it also forbids eating meat on Fridays,what's that about? NKJV 1Timothy 4:1,5 Now the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry(God says of the overseer be of ONE wife)and abstaining from certain foods(some translations say certain meats) which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

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May 27, 2017 11:40:38   #
Gatsby
 
You hit the nail squarely on the head and sunk it! "some translations".

Consider the problems our courts have in "translating" our own constitution,

written in our own language, a mear 228 years ago.

Now consider the age of the various books of the bible, the number of translations, some by committee,

then consider the number of differing "interpetations" of those differing "translations" taught today?

Did any of you ever engage in the old "camp fire game" of whispering a story to the person next to you,

each in tern, pass the story around the camp fire, back to the one who started it.

Then you discuss how the story changed as it traveled.............
Kazudy wrote:
Unintended,you are confusing the Catholic Church with the Roman Catholic Church. Catholic means Universal. The Roman Catholic Church claims that Peter was the first Pope,but Peter was married and we know how the Roman Catholic Church feels about married priests. And for some reason it also forbids eating meat on Fridays,what's that about? NKJV 1Timothy 4:1,5 Now the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry(God says of the overseer be of ONE wife)and abstaining from certain foods(some translations say certain meats) which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Unintended,you are confusing the Catholic Church w... (show quote)

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May 27, 2017 12:17:37   #
Unintended Consequences
 
Kazudy wrote:
Unintended,you are confusing the Catholic Church with the Roman Catholic Church. Catholic means Universal. The Roman Catholic Church claims that Peter was the first Pope,but Peter was married and we know how the Roman Catholic Church feels about married priests. And for some reason it also forbids eating meat on Fridays,what's that about? NKJV 1Timothy 4:1,5 Now the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry(God says of the overseer be of ONE wife)and abstaining from certain foods(some translations say certain meats) which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Unintended,you are confusing the Catholic Church w... (show quote)


Maybe you should read a little more history. Generally Catholic Church = Roman Catholic Church There are other smaller branches-Old Roman Catholic - Eastern Orthodox, etc. The Roman Catholic Church had married priests until the 12th century. Abstaining from meat on Fridays is a form of penance which Catholics are encouraged to do but is not mandatory except during the season of Lent. And can I assume that you follow all the others things written in the Bible say for instance in Deuteronomy?

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May 27, 2017 13:02:36   #
Homestead
 
Kazudy wrote:
Unintended,you are confusing the Catholic Church with the Roman Catholic Church. Catholic means Universal. The Roman Catholic Church claims that Peter was the first Pope,but Peter was married and we know how the Roman Catholic Church feels about married priests. And for some reason it also forbids eating meat on Fridays,what's that about? NKJV 1Timothy 4:1,5 Now the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry(God says of the overseer be of ONE wife)and abstaining from certain foods(some translations say certain meats) which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Unintended,you are confusing the Catholic Church w... (show quote)


If you're going to comment on religion, try looking at some history first.

Starvation always stalked past civilizations. They didn't have electricity or refrigeration, they didn't have long term storage of food, especially meat.

So the fishing fleets came in on Fridays, the fishermen needed to sell their fish and the fish need to be consumed before they spoiled. The eating of fish also stretched out the sources of meat as they needed to slaughter less animals, because of the fish.

So the religious leaders of the time, took on the responsibilities of leaders and demanded that their followers eat fish on Friday.

It increased the income of the fishermen and increased the food available to the people.

Just what the hell is your problem with that?

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May 27, 2017 13:07:22   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Kazudy wrote:
Unintended,you are confusing the Catholic Church with the Roman Catholic Church. Catholic means Universal. The Roman Catholic Church claims that Peter was the first Pope,but Peter was married and we know how the Roman Catholic Church feels about married priests. And for some reason it also forbids eating meat on Fridays,what's that about? NKJV 1Timothy 4:1,5 Now the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry(God says of the overseer be of ONE wife)and abstaining from certain foods(some translations say certain meats) which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Unintended,you are confusing the Catholic Church w... (show quote)


Other Roman popes besides Peter were married. So what?Orthodox priest marry but not their Bishops. Orthodox fast on Wednesdays and Fridays in commemoration that Christ was betrayed on Wednesday and crucified on Friday and the bible is very specific about fasting. When do you practice the Christian discipline of fasting? And fasting and abstinence is a Christian discipline practiced during the entire 40 days of Lent.

Catholic means much more than universal. It means that faith practices in all places by all the people for all times. Universality, antiquity and general consent. One, Holy, Catholic and apostolic church. No protestant church meet that criteria.

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May 27, 2017 16:52:27   #
popscott
 
So... Obama says we should not hide behind walls... guess who built a wall around his house?

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May 27, 2017 17:17:09   #
Homestead
 
popscott wrote:
So... Obama says we should not hide behind walls... guess who built a wall around his house?



You're not being fair to Obama.

Obama built that wall just in case some illegal immigrants wanted to move in and he wants to keep them out.

So it's not for Obama to hide behind, it's just to keep all the undesirables out.

That's a lot different than a border wall.

Obama's already got his, so why do you need one.

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May 28, 2017 00:10:39   #
Bshaw
 
😂 Same idea! 😜 Just a Democrat wall is only diff.😤

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May 28, 2017 11:53:55   #
Kazudy
 
I guess you didn't read the part that said "some will depart from the truth" that be the Catholic Church. Let me give a a example. In the 2nd Commandment thou shall not make unto yourselves graven images. That commandment IS NOT in the Catholic Catechism, but it is in the Bible. Then your leaders took the 10 th Commandment about coveting and broke it into 2 Commandments. That way there are still 10 commandments. I'm sure you knew that already, but just like the Democrat Party, the Catholic Church feeds a lot of Kool-Aid to it's followers.

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May 28, 2017 12:00:09   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Kazudy wrote:
I guess you didn't read the part that said "some will depart from the truth" that be the Catholic Church. Let me give a a example. In the 2nd Commandment thou shall not make unto yourselves graven images. That commandment IS NOT in the Catholic Catechism, but it is in the Bible. Then your leaders took the 10 th Commandment about coveting and broke it into 2 Commandments. That way there are still 10 commandments. I'm sure you knew that already, but just like the Democrat Party, the Catholic Church feeds a lot of Kool-Aid to it's followers.
I guess you didn't read the part that said "s... (show quote)


Maybe you didn't read that part where Jesus, himself, reduced the ten down to two: love God and love your neighbour. Next.

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May 28, 2017 12:08:28   #
Kazudy
 
How about a reply in the Catholic's deceiving by adjusting the Commandments. Will you reply to that?

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May 28, 2017 13:28:37   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Kazudy wrote:
How about a reply in the Catholic's deceiving by adjusting the Commandments. Will you reply to that?


Can't respond to something I don't know about but I'll do the same thing that's available to you and look it up.

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