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May 25, 2017 20:47:40   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
Nickolai wrote:
While Hillary stretches the truth occasionally she can't hold a candle to Trumps lies and she is not a criminal that is right trumped up BS


Nickolai, you can't possibly believe what you are saying about Hillary. I did not vote in 2012 or 2016, for different reasons. I do however support OUR President Trump. I don't yet know if he is who he says he is and whom I believe him to be. Only time will tell to whom Donald J Trump answers. I am willing to give him that time.

I never liked either Clinton, white trash Kennedy wannabes. Poppi Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld have been running the government Deep State since at least 1975, when Poppi Bush became Director of the CIA, if not earlier.

The Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama White House has been controlled by the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal as well. That is until the day OUR President Trump took office. Frankly, I believe Baby Bush has spent his entire life desperately trying to please his Poppi, with little to no avail.

I wanted to like Obama, he seemed to be a good husband and father, 2 outta 3 ain't bad. However, when I was first introduced to Obama on Oprah in 2008, I came away with a deep sense of "groomed" to Biblical proporations. That's just my personal take on the man in my first impression.

The 2 campaign promises Obama uttered that day on Oprah were "to fundamentally transform America" and bring "a more transparent government". These words, as good as they sounded after 8 years of Baby Bush, shot up "red flags" in my head. These flags were opened and flapping wildly by 2013.

I must add, I turned off my TV in 2010/2011. I had turned off the MSM "entertainment" news a year or two prior. I didn't turn the MSM back on until about a week before the 2016 election and found it appalling. I've rarely had cable throughout my life. For the first time ever, I have just recently watched FOX via YouTube. My TV is in storage and it seems I am in no hurry. The last time I watched CNN was during the Desert Storm era.

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May 25, 2017 20:51:15   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Nickolai wrote:
Neo Nazis are skin heads and white supremacists as were the KKK both far right wing extremist groups ANTIFA is a far left group as near as I can figure they are just a bunch of anarchists. But sometimes I've suspected they have been hired by far right groups to engage in violence to make liberals look bad. Where I come from the Peaceful nonviolent civil disobedience as demonstrated by Gandhi, MLK, nd Cesar Chavez is far more associated with liberals


So ain't goat shit.

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May 25, 2017 21:16:07   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Nickolai wrote:
Neo Nazis are skin heads and white supremacists as were the KKK both far right wing extremist groups

Just flat out wrong. You need to burn your revisionist history books. I'll bring the marshmallows.
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ANTIFA is a far left group as near as I can figure they are just a bunch of anarchists.

Agreed. Tell me; why isn't there a single progressive out there, calling for them to knock off their criminal antics? Because silence means they condone it.
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But sometimes I've suspected they have been hired by far right groups to engage in violence to make liberals look bad.

Pure nonsense. Lol, progressive liberal democrats don't need any help with that, Nick.
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Where I come from the Peaceful nonviolent civil disobedience as demonstrated by Gandhi, MLK, nd Cesar Chavez is far more associated with liberals

Where exactly are you from?

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May 25, 2017 22:43:09   #
Onelostdog Loc: Restless Oregon
 
Nickolai wrote:
By every definition the nation is better off when progressives govern you could look it up


We conservatives would look it up but then we would have to go to war against you lying progressive scumbags to straighten out the country again. Progressive politics has not worked in any country in the world where it has been tried, no matter how many times it has been tried. You could look that up but then the facts would go against your progressive communist ideology and you know that just can't be allowed to happen.

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May 25, 2017 23:02:16   #
Nickolai
 
cesspool jones wrote:
Why don't you stick a piece in your mouth before someone else or myself does. If you do it yourself, that's it. If we do it, we will shove your cock in your dead mouth and take pictures. PS I meant pussy.








The death rattle of the Trump Presidency has begun; Mary Buffett, Contributor
It’s now over but the shouting. It began the moment charges moved from unnamed sources in the New York Times and the Washington Post to the desk of Robert Mueller III, the former Director of the FBI, now the Special Counsel. It began the moment a counterintelligence investigation became a criminal matter. It accelerated further once a “person of interest” was identified by the FBI, with parlor betting believing that its Jared Kushner, the son-in-law of the president.
The end began when the adults took over the investigation and now the only thing that remains are dates and times of the final resignation.
White House staff members will soon lawyer up and it’s only a matter of time before more beans are spilled because rats rarely climb onto a sinking ship. As my one friend in law enforcement once said, “nothing makes a white-collar suspect break into a sweat like the words ‘you have the right to remain silent.’”

It accelerated into high speed after the Trump White House experienced a series of self-inflicted body blows like none other seen in any modern presidency. Last Monday started with former Acting Attorney General Yates stating that she could not understand why the White House was unwilling to act on her concerns about General Michael Flynn’s questionable behavior. On next day, James Comey was fired as the head of the FBI, for the unbelievable rationale of his treatment of Hillary Clinton’s emails during the end stage of the presidential election. Then the president himself pulled the rug out from his entire senior staff, including the vice president, when he later said that he had planned to get rid of Comey all along and that the Rod Rosenstein memo was nothing more than a pretext. Then he followed it up with a threat, suggesting that his meeting with Comey was somehow “taped” and he should watch what he says. Then he chose to blithely share highly classified data surrounding ISIS with the Russians (that we now know came from Israeli sources) and after his staff was trotted out to defend his action, Trump once again undercut them by saying that sharing the intelligence was his prerogative as president. Just as quickly, the former FBI director pushed back.

When it became known that fired FBI director took copious notes, friends of Comey stated that the president tried to elicit his loyalty on several occasions and hoped that the disgraced General Flynn would not be prosecuted. Rosenstein, a career Justice Department official, then moved forward to select a special counsel. In this crazy period, there are details that I have left out—there is there is just so much crazy stuff out there.

The new special counsel, Robert Mueller III, is a different sort of breed. He is not like Ken Starr, who authorized the bodice-ripping Starr Report near 20 years ago in 1998, which cleared Bill Clinton of everything, but for lying about the act of consensual sex with an intern. It was Mueller, who alongside then-acting Attorney General James Comey, who stood down the Bush White House in 2004 over a reauthorizing warrantless wiretapping program. He was prepared to walk away from the FBI directorship because of principal and protest.
Trump’s downfall is entirely Shakespearian and it is an opera that begs to be written. It was Trump, who flirted with a White House run for nearly two decades, who is now watching it all melt away, even if he remains in deep denial. Those who cheered the extremist rhetoric of Candidate Trump have found that President Trump has flip-flopped on many major topics after he took office. Jared Kushner, the husband of Trump’s beloved daughter, might find himself in legal hot water now that the FBI is rumored to have set their sights on his activities with the Russians. Two Republican Congressmen have already begun to duel for the right to claim that they were the first Republican to call for impeachment, something that Pete McCloskey, then a Republican Congressman from San Mateo, could claim when he started to call for the removal of Richard Nixon two generations ago.
They say that the White House is a ship that leaks from the top, but this current White House is leaking like a sieve. Stories published in The New York Times or The Washington Post have been confirmed by large numbers of unnamed White House sources, far more than what took place in Watergate. However, what is most apparent is that after only several months of this administration, the nation is simply too exhausted and policymakers are wondering what shoe will drop next. This is not how superpowers are supposed to behave.

However, the most surprised guy in the room has got to be Vice President Pence, who now must walk a very fine line so that he is not ensnared in whatever cover-up continues to build. Last year, he went from a sitting Indiana governor, who was in a very tough reelection bid, to a vice president who is only months away from becoming the 46th President of the United States.
Recently I found myself in Orange County on Highway 91 heading into Los Angeles and I saw a sign that the Richard Nixon Birthplace and Museum was located near the next exit. I had some extra time, so I followed the signs and soon enough, I was in the parking lot of the museum of the 37th president. As I toured the well-appointed grounds and walked to the final resting place of Nixon and his wife Pat, buried a stone’s throw from his birthplace, I was struck by the 13-minute video that detailed his life. It recalled his hardscrabble childhood and the death of his siblings before it talked about his meteoric political rise, when he became Ike’s vice president before the age of 40. The film spent some time detailing his years in the wilderness before emerging to win the 1968 election in a squeaker and 1972 in a landslide. When they turned to Watergate and the resignation speech, it was glossed over―as if the events took place in a vacuum or showed up unannounced at the Oval Office door.
People forget that it was Nixon’s personality, his penchant for secrecy, his desire to strike out at enemies perceived as well as real, and his paranoia about others that led to his downfall. It was Nixon’s personality that drove Watergate and it was Nixon’s behavior which led to his downfall.
I’m not sure if they will ever build a Trump Presidential Library but perhaps one should be built to serve as a cautionary tale. Just as Nixon’s behavior became his own worst enemy, Trump’s behavior of early hour tweeting has served to be his undoing. It has been Trump—and Trump alone―who has put this nation on course for its first constitutional crisis since the days of Watergate. Like I have said in the past, if somebody would have taken away the president’s cell phone or cancelled his Twitter account, 90% of his problems would have simply vanished.
Somewhere out there, the surviving families of past Presidents like Millard Fillmore, Warren Harding, Franklin Pierce, or James Buchanan can breathe easily because their legacy will no longer loiter among the dregs of presidential history—Donald J. Trump will have it all to himself.

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May 25, 2017 23:11:56   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Nickolai wrote:
The death rattle of the Trump Presidency has begun; Mary Buffett, Contributor
It’s now over but the shouting. It began the moment charges moved from unnamed sources in the New York Times and the Washington Post to the desk of Robert Mueller III, the former Director of the FBI, now the Special Counsel. It began the moment a counterintelligence investigation became a criminal matter. It accelerated further once a “person of interest” was identified by the FBI, with parlor betting believing that its Jared Kushner, the son-in-law of the president.
The end began when the adults took over the investigation and now the only thing that remains are dates and times of the final resignation.
White House staff members will soon lawyer up and it’s only a matter of time before more beans are spilled because rats rarely climb onto a sinking ship. As my one friend in law enforcement once said, “nothing makes a white-collar suspect break into a sweat like the words ‘you have the right to remain silent.’”

It accelerated into high speed after the Trump White House experienced a series of self-inflicted body blows like none other seen in any modern presidency. Last Monday started with former Acting Attorney General Yates stating that she could not understand why the White House was unwilling to act on her concerns about General Michael Flynn’s questionable behavior. On next day, James Comey was fired as the head of the FBI, for the unbelievable rationale of his treatment of Hillary Clinton’s emails during the end stage of the presidential election. Then the president himself pulled the rug out from his entire senior staff, including the vice president, when he later said that he had planned to get rid of Comey all along and that the Rod Rosenstein memo was nothing more than a pretext. Then he followed it up with a threat, suggesting that his meeting with Comey was somehow “taped” and he should watch what he says. Then he chose to blithely share highly classified data surrounding ISIS with the Russians (that we now know came from Israeli sources) and after his staff was trotted out to defend his action, Trump once again undercut them by saying that sharing the intelligence was his prerogative as president. Just as quickly, the former FBI director pushed back.

When it became known that fired FBI director took copious notes, friends of Comey stated that the president tried to elicit his loyalty on several occasions and hoped that the disgraced General Flynn would not be prosecuted. Rosenstein, a career Justice Department official, then moved forward to select a special counsel. In this crazy period, there are details that I have left out—there is there is just so much crazy stuff out there.

The new special counsel, Robert Mueller III, is a different sort of breed. He is not like Ken Starr, who authorized the bodice-ripping Starr Report near 20 years ago in 1998, which cleared Bill Clinton of everything, but for lying about the act of consensual sex with an intern. It was Mueller, who alongside then-acting Attorney General James Comey, who stood down the Bush White House in 2004 over a reauthorizing warrantless wiretapping program. He was prepared to walk away from the FBI directorship because of principal and protest.
Trump’s downfall is entirely Shakespearian and it is an opera that begs to be written. It was Trump, who flirted with a White House run for nearly two decades, who is now watching it all melt away, even if he remains in deep denial. Those who cheered the extremist rhetoric of Candidate Trump have found that President Trump has flip-flopped on many major topics after he took office. Jared Kushner, the husband of Trump’s beloved daughter, might find himself in legal hot water now that the FBI is rumored to have set their sights on his activities with the Russians. Two Republican Congressmen have already begun to duel for the right to claim that they were the first Republican to call for impeachment, something that Pete McCloskey, then a Republican Congressman from San Mateo, could claim when he started to call for the removal of Richard Nixon two generations ago.
They say that the White House is a ship that leaks from the top, but this current White House is leaking like a sieve. Stories published in The New York Times or The Washington Post have been confirmed by large numbers of unnamed White House sources, far more than what took place in Watergate. However, what is most apparent is that after only several months of this administration, the nation is simply too exhausted and policymakers are wondering what shoe will drop next. This is not how superpowers are supposed to behave.

However, the most surprised guy in the room has got to be Vice President Pence, who now must walk a very fine line so that he is not ensnared in whatever cover-up continues to build. Last year, he went from a sitting Indiana governor, who was in a very tough reelection bid, to a vice president who is only months away from becoming the 46th President of the United States.
Recently I found myself in Orange County on Highway 91 heading into Los Angeles and I saw a sign that the Richard Nixon Birthplace and Museum was located near the next exit. I had some extra time, so I followed the signs and soon enough, I was in the parking lot of the museum of the 37th president. As I toured the well-appointed grounds and walked to the final resting place of Nixon and his wife Pat, buried a stone’s throw from his birthplace, I was struck by the 13-minute video that detailed his life. It recalled his hardscrabble childhood and the death of his siblings before it talked about his meteoric political rise, when he became Ike’s vice president before the age of 40. The film spent some time detailing his years in the wilderness before emerging to win the 1968 election in a squeaker and 1972 in a landslide. When they turned to Watergate and the resignation speech, it was glossed over―as if the events took place in a vacuum or showed up unannounced at the Oval Office door.
People forget that it was Nixon’s personality, his penchant for secrecy, his desire to strike out at enemies perceived as well as real, and his paranoia about others that led to his downfall. It was Nixon’s personality that drove Watergate and it was Nixon’s behavior which led to his downfall.
I’m not sure if they will ever build a Trump Presidential Library but perhaps one should be built to serve as a cautionary tale. Just as Nixon’s behavior became his own worst enemy, Trump’s behavior of early hour tweeting has served to be his undoing. It has been Trump—and Trump alone―who has put this nation on course for its first constitutional crisis since the days of Watergate. Like I have said in the past, if somebody would have taken away the president’s cell phone or cancelled his Twitter account, 90% of his problems would have simply vanished.
Somewhere out there, the surviving families of past Presidents like Millard Fillmore, Warren Harding, Franklin Pierce, or James Buchanan can breathe easily because their legacy will no longer loiter among the dregs of presidential history—Donald J. Trump will have it all to himself.
The death rattle of the Trump Presidency has begun... (show quote)


Ya don't say!

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May 25, 2017 23:17:37   #
Nickolai
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Where exactly are you from?






When did the right jerk up the neo Nazis And ANTIFA has nothing to do with progressivism. They do not represent progressive values they are just a bunch of thugs that are as bad as the fascist they reputedly hate they are just another hat group. They killed occupy Oakland movement in 2011 The movement had been on going for a couple months every evening with peaceful protests. When these guys appeared out of no where dressed in black their faces covered armed with crow bar's and proceeded to smash the glass In store fronts then vanished as quickly as they had appeared. No body knew who the hell they were or where they came from. Needles to say that put and end to occupy Oakland and San Francisco. They are hurting whatever their is to the progressive movement. That's why I suspected that a wealthy Right winger hired them to make the occupy movement in particular and the progressive movement in general look really bad. No body in their right mind could expect t orally folks to your cause with that type of behavior

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May 25, 2017 23:20:54   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Nickolai wrote:
When did the right jerk up the neo Nazis And ANTIFA has nothing to do with progressivism. They do not represent progressive values they are just a bunch of thugs that are as bad as the fascist they reputedly hate they are just another hat group. They killed occupy Oakland movement in 2011 The movement had been on going for a couple months every evening with peaceful protests. When these guys appeared out of no where dressed in black their faces covered armed with crow bar's and proceeded to smash the glass In store fronts then vanished as quickly as they had appeared. No body knew who the hell they were or where they came from. Needles to say that put and end to occupy Oakland and San Francisco. They are hurting whatever their is to the progressive movement. That's why I suspected that a wealthy Right winger hired them to make the occupy movement in particular and the progressive movement in general look really bad. No body in their right mind could expect t orally folks to your cause with that type of behavior
When did the right jerk up the neo Nazis And ANTIF... (show quote)


Did you know that a number 7 does not like light and moves when you startle it?

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May 25, 2017 23:21:37   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Nickolai wrote:
When did the right jerk up the neo Nazis And ANTIFA has nothing to do with progressivism. They do not represent progressive values they are just a bunch of thugs that are as bad as the fascist they reputedly hate they are just another hat group. They killed occupy Oakland movement in 2011 The movement had been on going for a couple months every evening with peaceful protests. When these guys appeared out of no where dressed in black their faces covered armed with crow bar's and proceeded to smash the glass In store fronts then vanished as quickly as they had appeared. No body knew who the hell they were or where they came from. Needles to say that put and end to occupy Oakland and San Francisco. They are hurting whatever their is to the progressive movement. That's why I suspected that a wealthy Right winger hired them to make the occupy movement in particular and the progressive movement in general look really bad. No body in their right mind could expect t orally folks to your cause with that type of behavior
When did the right jerk up the neo Nazis And ANTIF... (show quote)


" They are hurting whatever their is to the progressive movement. That's why I suspected that a wealthy Right winger hired them to make the occupy movement in particular and the progressive movement in general look really bad." - Nickolai

Get in touch with George Soros

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May 25, 2017 23:26:14   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
cabbot wrote:
Hello,
I just joined this morning. Female, just moved to Bend, Oregon from Reno, Nevada. Went to high school with both Dean Heller and Mark Amodai.
I am a Democrat. Very disgusted and wary of Trump. I'm very interested in the ongoing investigations. Personally believe he is very heavily involved with criminal activity, both here and abroad.
I continue to wonder about this question: Why are so many of Trump 's followers blind to what he is doing? Why are they buying his lies?
Hello, br I just joined this morning. Female, jus... (show quote)


Who is your other persona here? Sounds like one of the regulars are trying to show support for their side, by making up another Dimbo Anti American persona in the false attempt to make it seem that the Anti Trumpers (Traitors) are gaining a majority here.

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May 25, 2017 23:31:24   #
Nickolai
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Where exactly are you from?









I'm from Oklahoma. My parents were married at the depths of the great depression in 1932. Started with nothing and became tenant farmers for the next ten years. In 1935 the worst of the dust bowl year the 80 acres they rented only produced two bail of cotton that fetched $25 per bail and the land lord got half of that, and while at the local town the house burned to the ground. Two years later we landed in a farm labor camp in Clovis California. In those days a good picker working hard 14 hours under the broiling hot sun could expect to pick 300 lbs of cotton and paid seventeen cents per hundred lbs picked. At the end of the season the state bought us train tickets back to Oklahoma. There tens of thousands more Okie migrants that they stated wanted around looking for work. The locals hated us Okies because we were so ragged they worried we would break into their houses and steal all their stuff and the Mexicans hated us because our presence had increased the supply of labor and allowed the growers to cut the pay in half

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May 25, 2017 23:39:05   #
Nickolai
 
Onelostdog wrote:
We conservatives would look it up but then we would have to go to war against you lying progressive scumbags to straighten out the country again. Progressive politics has not worked in any country in the world where it has been tried, no matter how many times it has been tried. You could look that up but then the facts would go against your progressive communist ideology and you know that just can't be allowed to happen.






That is a bunch of baloney every reform brought about that has improved the lives of ordinary people from anti trust laws, to child labor laws, food safety, urban sanitation, the week end with the 8 hr day . 40 hr week, un-employment ins, Social Security , Medicare, work safety. food safety, and on and on was made possible by progressives in both major political arties. I dare you to name any thing comparable any conservative has contribute to the advancement of civilization. I have scoured the history books in search of anything, and there is nothing

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May 25, 2017 23:50:18   #
Nickolai
 
QuestGirl wrote:
Nickolai, you can't possibly believe what you are saying about Hillary. I did not vote in 2012 or 2016, for different reasons. I do however support OUR President Trump. I don't yet know if he is who he says he is and whom I believe him to be. Only time will tell to whom Donald J Trump answers. I am willing to give him that time.

I never liked either Clinton, white trash Kennedy wannabes. Poppi Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld have been running the government Deep State since at least 1975, when Poppi Bush became Director of the CIA, if not earlier.

The Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama White House has been controlled by the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal as well. That is until the day OUR President Trump took office. Frankly, I believe Baby Bush has spent his entire life desperately trying to please his Poppi, with little to no avail.

I wanted to like Obama, he seemed to be a good husband and father, 2 outta 3 ain't bad. However, when I was first introduced to Obama on Oprah in 2008, I came away with a deep sense of "groomed" to Biblical proporations. That's just my personal take on the man in my first impression.

The 2 campaign promises Obama uttered that day on Oprah were "to fundamentally transform America" and bring "a more transparent government". These words, as good as they sounded after 8 years of Baby Bush, shot up "red flags" in my head. These flags were opened and flapping wildly by 2013.

I must add, I turned off my TV in 2010/2011. I had turned off the MSM "entertainment" news a year or two prior. I didn't turn the MSM back on until about a week before the 2016 election and found it appalling. I've rarely had cable throughout my life. For the first time ever, I have just recently watched FOX via YouTube. My TV is in storage and it seems I am in no hurry. The last time I watched CNN was during the Desert Storm era.
Nickolai, you can't possibly believe what you are ... (show quote)





Hilary Clinton has been under attack by conservatives since she was first lady of Arkansas with no let up when she because FLOTUS And in fact I was a registered Republican then, had been for over 30 years had not voted for Clinton but the tabloid material the RNC sent me in a voter guide was sickening It compelled me to flee that party and its only gotten worse since that time. I was a Hillary fan until she sold out to wall street when she began her own political career. I'm a lover of women and given a choice I'll vote for the female every time I've seldom regretted it

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May 26, 2017 00:38:02   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Nickolai wrote:
I'm from Oklahoma. My parents were married at the depths of the great depression in 1932. Started with nothing and became tenant farmers for the next ten years. In 1935 the worst of the dust bowl year the 80 acres they rented only produced two bail of cotton that fetched $25 per bail and the land lord got half of that, and while at the local town the house burned to the ground. Two years later we landed in a farm labor camp in Clovis California. In those days a good picker working hard 14 hours under the broiling hot sun could expect to pick 300 lbs of cotton and paid seventeen cents per hundred lbs picked. At the end of the season the state bought us train tickets back to Oklahoma. There tens of thousands more Okie migrants that they stated wanted around looking for work. The locals hated us Okies because we were so ragged they worried we would break into their houses and steal all their stuff and the Mexicans hated us because our presence had increased the supply of labor and allowed the growers to cut the pay in half
I'm from Oklahoma. My parents were married at the... (show quote)

That's what I'm talking about, thank you for sharing, Nick.

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May 26, 2017 00:45:38   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Nickolai wrote:
Hilary Clinton has been under attack by conservatives since she was first lady of Arkansas with no let up when she because FLOTUS And in fact I was a registered Republican then, had been for over 30 years had not voted for Clinton but the tabloid material the RNC sent me in a voter guide was sickening It compelled me to flee that party and its only gotten worse since that time. I was a Hillary fan until she sold out to wall street when she began her own political career. I'm a lover of women and given a choice I'll vote for the female every time I've seldom regretted it
Hilary Clinton has been under attack by conservati... (show quote)


Dems just lost another seat in Montana. Pendulum still swinging right.

Couldn't even beat a guy who was cited for misdemeanor assault on a reporter during the campaign.... that's pretty sad, Nick. 😂

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