Trump demand's personal loyalty? (Page 2): Have you heard the one about the president who said u can keep your doctor and your plan??

wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

Have you heard the one about the fake president going from Saudi Arabia to Israel and saying "I just left the Middle East"?

Have you heard the one about the president who said u can keep your doctor and your plan??

moldyoldy

wuzblynd wrote:

Have you heard the one about the president who said u can keep your doctor and your plan??

4 years ago
Fact Check: You can keep your own doctor

Posted by
CNN Staff
ASSERTION:
You can keep your own doctor.

"First of all, if you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan - you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you."
President Barack Obama
7/16/2009
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
AT NEW JERSEY RALLY FOR GOVERNOR JON CORZINE
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-rally-governor-jon-corzine
FACTS:
This has been a staple talking point as the president has traveled the country selling his health care plan. What is the truth?
The short answer is maybe.
At least in part because of the new law, some large employers are reassessing how they offer health care to their employees. This summer shipping giant UPS announced it would no longer cover spouses of non-union employees who are also eligible for health benefits from their own employers. This affects about 15,000 spouses who as of January 1, 2014 will have to change insurance plans.
Some major unions including the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers which originally signed on to health care reform now say many of their members may not be able to keep their current health care coverage under Obamacare. These unions are now demanding the Obama administration make regulatory changes to the law so that multi-employer plans which cover many union workers are protected. These multi-employer plans mean small businesses team up with other employers on health care coverage and pool the risks. The problem is these plans are not eligible for federal subsidies under the new health care law and that means the union workers might have to change their health care plan.
"It is a question of fairness," says Edwin Hill, president of the IBEW. "Multi-employer plans are genuine health care success stories and they deserve the same federal support private insurance companies get."
Finally only a handful of existing individual plans that people currently have will be grandfathered into the exchanges. So, most people who are currently in the individual market will need to get new plans.
"Depending on the plan you choose in the marketplace, you may be able to keep your current doctor," a Health and Human Services official tells us, adding, "Different plans have different networks and providers...if staying with your current doctors is important to you, check to see if they are included before choosing a plan."
The Verdict:
False, only because the president has been so definitive. It is probably true that the majority of people who have insurance will not be affected by the new law. But, clearly some will. Obama may realize he has been overstating the case since he did not make that assertion during recent events promoting the law. The White House says, however, he stands by the claim, declaring on its website, "nothing in the proposal forces anyone to change the insurance they have. Period."

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

moldyoldy wrote:

4 years ago
Fact Check: You can keep your own doctor

Posted by
CNN Staff
ASSERTION:
You can keep your own doctor.

"First of all, if you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan - you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you."
President Barack Obama
7/16/2009
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
AT NEW JERSEY RALLY FOR GOVERNOR JON CORZINE
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-rally-governor-jon-corzine
FACTS:
This has been a staple talking point as the president has traveled the country selling his health care plan. What is the truth?
The short answer is maybe.
At least in part because of the new law, some large employers are reassessing how they offer health care to their employees. This summer shipping giant UPS announced it would no longer cover spouses of non-union employees who are also eligible for health benefits from their own employers. This affects about 15,000 spouses who as of January 1, 2014 will have to change insurance plans.
Some major unions including the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers which originally signed on to health care reform now say many of their members may not be able to keep their current health care coverage under Obamacare. These unions are now demanding the Obama administration make regulatory changes to the law so that multi-employer plans which cover many union workers are protected. These multi-employer plans mean small businesses team up with other employers on health care coverage and pool the risks. The problem is these plans are not eligible for federal subsidies under the new health care law and that means the union workers might have to change their health care plan.
"It is a question of fairness," says Edwin Hill, president of the IBEW. "Multi-employer plans are genuine health care success stories and they deserve the same federal support private insurance companies get."
Finally only a handful of existing individual plans that people currently have will be grandfathered into the exchanges. So, most people who are currently in the individual market will need to get new plans.
"Depending on the plan you choose in the marketplace, you may be able to keep your current doctor," a Health and Human Services official tells us, adding, "Different plans have different networks and providers...if staying with your current doctors is important to you, check to see if they are included before choosing a plan."
The Verdict:
False, only because the president has been so definitive. It is probably true that the majority of people who have insurance will not be affected by the new law. But, clearly some will. Obama may realize he has been overstating the case since he did not make that assertion during recent events promoting the law. The White House says, however, he stands by the claim, declaring on its website, "nothing in the proposal forces anyone to change the insurance they have. Period."

4 years ago br Fact Check: You can keep your own ... (show quote)

Didn't even read that load of shit because you are a blithering POS clone. You can't see the problem with government single payer insurance! No more competition...you know, how things get better.

wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

4 years ago
Fact Check: You can keep your own doctor

Posted by
CNN Staff
ASSERTION:
You can keep your own doctor.

"First of all, if you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan - you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you."
President Barack Obama
7/16/2009
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
AT NEW JERSEY RALLY FOR GOVERNOR JON CORZINE
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-rally-governor-jon-corzine
FACTS:
This has been a staple talking point as the president has traveled the country selling his health care plan. What is the truth?
The short answer is maybe.
At least in part because of the new law, some large employers are reassessing how they offer health care to their employees. This summer shipping giant UPS announced it would no longer cover spouses of non-union employees who are also eligible for health benefits from their own employers. This affects about 15,000 spouses who as of January 1, 2014 will have to change insurance plans.
Some major unions including the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers which originally signed on to health care reform now say many of their members may not be able to keep their current health care coverage under Obamacare. These unions are now demanding the Obama administration make regulatory changes to the law so that multi-employer plans which cover many union workers are protected. These multi-employer plans mean small businesses team up with other employers on health care coverage and pool the risks. The problem is these plans are not eligible for federal subsidies under the new health care law and that means the union workers might have to change their health care plan.
"It is a question of fairness," says Edwin Hill, president of the IBEW. "Multi-employer plans are genuine health care success stories and they deserve the same federal support private insurance companies get."
Finally only a handful of existing individual plans that people currently have will be grandfathered into the exchanges. So, most people who are currently in the individual market will need to get new plans.
"Depending on the plan you choose in the marketplace, you may be able to keep your current doctor," a Health and Human Services official tells us, adding, "Different plans have different networks and providers...if staying with your current doctors is important to you, check to see if they are included before choosing a plan."
The Verdict:
False, only because the president has been so definitive. It is probably true that the majority of people who have insurance will not be affected by the new law. But, clearly some will. Obama may realize he has been overstating the case since he did not make that assertion during recent events promoting the law. The White House says, however, he stands by the claim, declaring on its website, "nothing in the proposal forces anyone to change the insurance they have. Period."

4 years ago br Fact Check: You can keep your own ... (show quote)

U must think everyone on this site is dumb as a dirtclod. Hush fool.

moldyoldy

cesspool jones wrote:

Didn't even read that load of shit because you are a blithering POS clone. You can't see the problem with government single payer insurance! No more competition...you know, how things get better.

Why do you need competition for health care?
We should all be able to see a doctor when sick.
Only greedy America does not care about its people.

moldyoldy

wuzblynd wrote:

U must think everyone on this site is dumb as a dirtclod. Hush fool.

Did you read it, or are you just like that other idiot?

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

moldyoldy wrote:

Why do you need competition for health care?
We should all be able to see a doctor when sick.
Only greedy America does not care about its people.

Moldy, how do you think advancement in all aspects of society works....trying to get better than the other which brings better products, even medical. It's not greedy America, it's lawyers that caused this crisis.

moldyoldy

cesspool jones wrote:

Moldy, how do you think advancement in all aspects of society works....trying to get better than the other which brings better products, even medical. It's not greedy America, it's lawyers that caused this crisis.

It is not lawyers who try to make ten thousand percent profit on a drug.
Why are US made drugs cheaper if ordered from Canada?

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

moldyoldy wrote:

It is not lawyers who try to make ten thousand percent profit on a drug.
Why are US made drugs cheaper if ordered from Canada?

I gotcha on that but that's not what I'm talking about moldy. I'm talking about the 5 lawyers for every doctor back in the 80's. Look what that morphed into nowadaze.

moldyoldy

cesspool jones wrote:

I gotcha on that but that's not what I'm talking about moldy. I'm talking about the 5 lawyers for every doctor back in the 80's. Look what that morphed into nowadaze.

They have insurance, and they have the lawyers on permanent retainer.

wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

Did you read it, or are you just like that other idiot?

No I didn't and no I won't either. I've already seen what ur about and I'm not waisting my time with u libs.

moldyoldy

wuzblynd wrote:

No I didn't and no I won't either. I've already seen what ur about and I'm not waisting my time with u libs.

Your loss

wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

Your loss

That's what you think. O loss, all gain by not listening to negative mouth libs

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Alicia wrote:

****************************** br What is he givin... (show quote)

Because I am able to not only think but to also discern the difference between Truth and Bull Shit, I am a Conservative and not a group think leftist Marxist Progressive. Trump is loyal to Traditional Americans unlike Obama who was loyal to Obama, his Marxist and extremely divisive agenda. So tell me how long have you been a fool or can you remember when it first infected you? Loyalty is a two way street - given and returned. Obama was so disloyal he even threw our military under the bus.

moldyoldy

padremike wrote:

Because I am able to not only think but to also discern the difference between Truth and Bull Shit, I am a Conservative and not a group think leftist Marxist Progressive. Trump is loyal to Traditional Americans unlike Obama who was loyal to Obama, his Marxist and extremely divisive agenda. So tell me how long have you been a fool or can you remember when it first infected you? Loyalty is a two way street - given and returned. Obama was so disloyal he even threw our military under the bus.

Graph of defense sending that exposes your lies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States