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Apr 24, 2017 19:35:19   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Docadhoc wrote:
You know Mike, if I was China I'd be looking at N. Korea as an expendable.

They realize that in a nuclear war there is no real winner and I believe that rather than take enormous damage and loss of life even if they would win, over a screwball posturing like 2 Fat, they would take him out first. And if they did it would position them to claim N. Korea for themselves.


If China puts the screws to that little screw I wouldn't be surprised if he turned his nukes on them! His future ain't too bright without China's protection and he just might feel betrayed enough to want a little revenge.

When the shit goes down in the Euphrates River Valley I expect a coordinated, world-wide terror attack and while we're busy a lot of old scores will be settled elsewhere. That's what happens in every world-war.

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Apr 24, 2017 20:21:48   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
BigMike wrote:
If China puts the screws to that little screw I wouldn't be surprised if he turned his nukes on them! His future ain't too bright without China's protection and he just might feel betrayed enough to want a little revenge.

When the shit goes down in the Euphrates River Valley I expect a coordinated, world-wide terror attack and while we're busy a lot of old scores will be settled elsewhere. That's what happens in every world-war.


Could well be but I don't see a WW over 2 Fat. He just doesn't represent enough gain to anybody to offset the potential losses associated with a WW.

I believe it more likely that China would take him out and invade and take over N. Korea. Any superpower can cancel his ticket and at the same time neutralize his retaliation ability.

If 2 Fat doesn't zip his mouth shut he'll find out the hard way that it's writing a check he can't cover. In fact, if he doesn't cool his jets pretty soon his military brass may take him out to avoid what would be coming.

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Apr 24, 2017 20:26:08   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Could well be but I don't see a WW over 2 Fat. He just doesn't represent enough gain to anybody to offset the potential losses associated with a WW.

I believe it more likely that China would take him out and invade and take over N. Korea. Any superpower can cancel his ticket and at the same time neutralize his retaliation ability.

If 2 Fat doesn't zip his mouth shut he'll find out the hard way that it's writing a check he can't cover. In fact, if he doesn't cool his jets pretty soon his military brass may take him out to avoid what would be coming.
Could well be but I don't see a WW over 2 Fat. He... (show quote)


And the fact that Trump called in the entire Senate to the WH for a N. Korea briefing today indicates something may be brewing. For all we know he has Intel that shows we need to hit 2 Fat now. We'll see what's up soon I think.

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Apr 24, 2017 20:52:11   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Could well be but I don't see a WW over 2 Fat. He just doesn't represent enough gain to anybody to offset the potential losses associated with a WW.

I believe it more likely that China would take him out and invade and take over N. Korea. Any superpower can cancel his ticket and at the same time neutralize his retaliation ability.

If 2 Fat doesn't zip his mouth shut he'll find out the hard way that it's writing a check he can't cover. In fact, if he doesn't cool his jets pretty soon his military brass may take him out to avoid what would be coming.
Could well be but I don't see a WW over 2 Fat. He... (show quote)


A single pistol shot is credited with starting WWI. While we both know there was a lot more to it than that, the point is that there's no telling what the spark will be, only that the conflagration that follows will be the worst we have ever seen.

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Apr 24, 2017 21:06:20   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
BigMike wrote:
A single pistol shot is credited with starting WWI. While we both know there was a lot more to it than that, the point is that there's no telling what the spark will be, only that the conflagration that follows will be the worst we have ever seen.


If it begins, yes. But times have changed. In all previous world wars all sides thought they could win. Today, with the addition of nukes, no one wins and everyone knows it.

That is why in my opinion when a mad man such as 2 Fat gains or approaches nuke capability he will be allowed to remain a threat for only so long and if it is determined that he will actually launch, at that point he will be taken out. To do otherwise is to risk global nuclear disaster.

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Apr 24, 2017 21:35:15   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Docadhoc wrote:
If it begins, yes. But times have changed. In all previous world wars all sides thought they could win. Today, with the addition of nukes, no one wins and everyone knows it.

That is why in my opinion when a mad man such as 2 Fat gains or approaches nuke capability he will be allowed to remain a threat for only so long and if it is determined that he will actually launch, at that point he will be taken out. To do otherwise is to risk global nuclear disaster.


Today the world is full of fanatics. Don't think common sense or self preservation will mean diddly in what's to come. They won't and it's coming...and coming soon

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Apr 24, 2017 21:54:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
BigMike wrote:
Today the world is full of fanatics. Don't think common sense or self preservation will mean diddly in what's to come. They won't and it's coming...and coming soon


Too bad for some people. This life is all they have, and they have little idea what is coming down.
Ow well.

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Apr 24, 2017 21:57:07   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Too bad for some people. This life is all they have, and they have little idea what is coming down.
Ow well.


If I hadn't read the end of the story I'd be worried. We're in for it, though. No avoiding it.

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Apr 24, 2017 22:48:59   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
BigMike wrote:
Today the world is full of fanatics. Don't think common sense or self preservation will mean diddly in what's to come. They won't and it's coming...and coming soon


All I can say is I believe you are wrong and pray that you are. I will admit that today's world is less stable than even during the cold war.

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Apr 24, 2017 23:20:57   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Docadhoc wrote:
All I can say is I believe you are wrong and pray that you are. I will admit that today's world is less stable than even during the cold war.


I wish I was wrong but I'm not. At the 6th Trumpet in Revelation, four bound spirits are loosed from the Euphrates River and a war that kills a third of the planet ensues. There aren't enough people living there to make that many casualties, but we're there and we have nukes, the Russians are there, Iran is making endless trouble and they want nukes in addition to the "dirty" bombs they probably already have. Israel is there (sorta) and they have nukes. Probably a bunch and if anyone has good reason to go out in a blaze o glory it's the Israelis. They, most likely, will not let Iran get a deliverable nuke, so we're already on a ticking clock. Assad is there, ISIS is there, Hezbollah is there, Al Qaeda is there, a dozen or so fringe groups are there, the Kurds are there, the Iraqis are there and now the Turks are there. We're on a ticking time clock, as I said, but what are the odds something happens to speed that clock up? Meanwhile...China wants to be the world trade currency. Bad! It's their number one goal They also want the gold Chang Kai Chek took with him to Taiwan. Economically and militarily they can't quite go toe to toe yet, but that's because we're the world trade currency. China is poised to surpass us economically and militarily because they have something we don't...a huge population. Do we deal with them now or later when their hand is stronger? What a stark question! Neither choice is good. You can bet the pointy heads at the Pentagon are making plans. When you add up the instability we see everywhere, and it's far worse than reporting can convey because there's simply too much of it, we're well on our way to WWIII. They're not moving all these pieces around for nothing. Some folks say we're already in WWIII. Maybe, but I think when it's enjoined we'll all know. I sort of expect a coordinated world-wide terror attack to announce WWIII.

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Apr 25, 2017 00:23:46   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
BigMike wrote:
I wish I was wrong but I'm not. At the 6th Trumpet in Revelation, four bound spirits are loosed from the Euphrates River and a war that kills a third of the planet ensues. There aren't enough people living there to make that many casualties, but we're there and we have nukes, the Russians are there, Iran is making endless trouble and they want nukes in addition to the "dirty" bombs they probably already have. Israel is there (sorta) and they have nukes. Probably a bunch and if anyone has good reason to go out in a blaze o glory it's the Israelis. They, most likely, will not let Iran get a deliverable nuke, so we're already on a ticking clock. Assad is there, ISIS is there, Hezbollah is there, Al Qaeda is there, a dozen or so fringe groups are there, the Kurds are there, the Iraqis are there and now the Turks are there. We're on a ticking time clock, as I said, but what are the odds something happens to speed that clock up? Meanwhile...China wants to be the world trade currency. Bad! It's their number one goal They also want the gold Chang Kai Chek took with him to Taiwan. Economically and militarily they can't quite go toe to toe yet, but that's because we're the world trade currency. China is poised to surpass us economically and militarily because they have something we don't...a huge population. Do we deal with them now or later when their hand is stronger? What a stark question! Neither choice is good. You can bet the pointy heads at the Pentagon are making plans. When you add up the instability we see everywhere, and it's far worse than reporting can convey because there's simply too much of it, we're well on our way to WWIII. They're not moving all these pieces around for nothing. Some folks say we're already in WWIII. Maybe, but I think when it's enjoined we'll all know. I sort of expect a coordinated world-wide terror attack to announce WWIII.
I i wish /i I was wrong but I'm not. At the 6th ... (show quote)


If a third of the world population is lost, we certainly would be part of that number.

Regardless who launches first, the early warning shield allows time for a retaliatory launch. There would be massive loss on both sides of the ocean.

I understand your position. My comment is that the same prediction has been put forth many times. Same ending but different details as time has gone on. We are nearer to being able to fulfill it now than ever before and thanks to our politicians we have given an instrument of massive death to more than one lunatic.

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Apr 25, 2017 00:28:03   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Docadhoc wrote:
If a third of the world population is lost, we certainly would be part of that number.

Regardless who launches first, the early warning shield allows time for a retaliatory launch. There would be massive loss on no th sides of the ocean.

I understand your position. My comment is that the same prediction has been put forth many times. Same ending but different details as time has gone on. We are nearer to being able to fulfill it now than ever before and thanks to our politicians we have given an instrument of massive death to more than one lunatic.
If a third of the world population is lost, we cer... (show quote)


Part of it, at least.

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Apr 25, 2017 08:58:39   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
World War III - Who Will Be Blamed?
If you want to start a to war, the unwashed masses must be convinced to send their brothers, sons and fathers to die on the front lines. The specter of an external enemy must be etched into their collective mind through trauma, exaggeration and repetition. History must be whitewashed, twisted and cherry picked down to a politicized nursery rhyme. At no point should the real motives or consequences of such an endeavor be discussed.
https://youtu.be/hvcq3OpX8qQ

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Apr 25, 2017 10:28:42   #
Big Bass
 
BigMike wrote:
The Bible say a third of the population will die in WWIII. I suspect China will bear the brunt of it. Those kind of casualties mean a huge population.


I hope you're wrong, but I fear you are right.

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Apr 25, 2017 11:26:52   #
Carol Kelly
 
EL wrote:
Exactly. She'll have to die for us to finally get rid of her.


All the bad ones. Even death wouldn't remove Obama from our landscape. Same with the Clintons,the Waters, Schumer, Pelosi. I hate Communism and Communists, but compared to some of our politicians and newsmen, Putin looks angelic.

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