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Apr 4, 2017 15:18:32   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Super, Hillary was investigated at least eight times by the Congress, and twice by the FBI. They have found nothing to charge her with. If there was a shred of evidence, the Republicans would be all over it like stink on shit. Obama is gone. He no longer is a political factor. He has been accused of wrongdoing, but again no evidence has been forthcoming.
This business about the NY Times, Washington Post and CNN bringing out false news is just another example of diversions that Trump and his political allies in the GOP are circulating, to avoid the truth from comming out. I trust these great news sources a lot more than the Donald. If This proves wrong, I will be the first to admit it.
Super, Hillary was investigated at least eight tim... (show quote)
uhhh. News Flash. Congress doesn't have the constitutional power to charge people.

They did prove to a 100% certainty that Hillary lied, which is what I said she did.

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Apr 4, 2017 17:44:22   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
Snopes.com refutes all that BS.


Snopes! You're relying on Snopes??? Some guy and his wife who run their conspiracy site from their living room is hardly an authority I would rely on.

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Apr 4, 2017 18:08:23   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"But at least he hadn't shot anyone." - working class stiff?

Over 48 and counting:

Clintonistas:
If guns were removed from the Clintons and their associates; a lot of dead people would still be alive:
The Clinton Corpses
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/the-clinton-corpses?xg_source=activity
Clinton Corpse Collection
This is just the short list, The long list will blow your socks and jocks off.

I've investigated a lot of crimes over the last 32 years, including murders. Any criminal investigator with the slightest bit of experience and training could easily see (and most have seen) the many flaws, holes and gaps in the so-called Vince Foster "murder" investigation by, of all the fede...ral law enforcement agencies, the Park Police. But, when one does a little more checking into the past of Bill and Hillary Clinton, they will find a long path of former friends, associates and business partners of the Clinton's who have died young and under mysterious circumstances. The following is a partial list of those whose blood cries out for justice.

Kevin Ives and Don Henry: Died August 1987. Reportedly, they had stumbled upon the Arkansas Mena Drug Operation (many stories and articles have been written about Clinton's affiliation with the Mena Mafia) It was first reported that these two young boys died as a result of falling asleep on a railroad track. It was later revealed that Ives had received a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks and Henry had been stabbed to death. The following 7 deaths were all of people who reportedly had knowledge and information concerning the mysterious, unsolved murders of Kevin Ives and Don Henry:
1.Keith Coney:died July 1988 from injuries sustained from a motorcycle accident. Some reports indicated that he was being chased by an unidentified vehicle.
2.Keith McKaskle: died Nov. 1988 from multiple stab wounds
3.Greg Collins: died Jan. 1989 from a gunshot wound to the head. No suspect was ever found.
4.Jeff Rhodes: died April 1989 from a gunshot wound to the head. His body was burned and thrown in a dumpster.
5.James Milam: died 1989. His death was ruled as being from natural causes, until his head was later recovered from a trash bin!
6.Richard Winters: died July 1990 from injuries sustained during a robbery attempt. He was a suspect in the death of Kevin Ives and Don Henry. Some reports claim the robbery was only a setup.
7.Jordan Kettleson: died June 1990. He died from gunshot wounds and was found sitting in his truck.
•Suzanne Coleman: died when Clinton served as Arkansas Attorney General. She was alleged to have been "romantically" involved with Clinton. Although she died from a gunshot to the back of her head, the death was ruled a suicide! She was pregnant at the time of her death.
•Alan Sandorf:died 1991. Sandorf was an employee of NSA (National Security Agency). He was reportedly providing info. to Danny Casolaro, who was an independent reporter investigating the INSLAW case (INSLAW involved Justice Dept. theft, cover-ups, missing records, fraud and gov. corruption of all sorts) Sandorf's body was found in the back seat of a car at the Washington National Airport.
•Dennis Eisman: shot to death in 1991. Eisman was an attorney, who was also working on the INSLAW case.
•Danny Casolaro: found dead in a Virginia motel room in 1992. His arms had been slashed multiple times. Casolaro was an independent investigative reporter who had extensive files and information on the INSLAW case against the Justice Dept. and other "high ranking" government officials. Even though his body was found, his files and documentations were said to have never been located!
•Victor Raiser II: died in 1992 from an unexplained airplane crash. He was co-chairman of the "Clinton for President" campaign. Montgomery Raiser, his son, also involved with the Clinton campaign was killed in the plane crash with his father and 5 other people.
•Ian Spiro: died in 1992. His wife and 3 children were found murdered in their home. They had been shot to death (execution style) Several days later Spiro's body was found in the Borego Desert. His autopsy revealed the cause of death as cyanide poisoning. He held files and evidence to produce before a grand jury in the INSLAW proceedings.
•Paul Tully: died 1992 from unknown causes. His body was found in a motel room in Little Rock Arkansas. He was supposedly one of Clinton's closest friends, and served as the National Democratic Committee Chairman.
•Jim Wilhite: died 1992 in a one person skiing accident. Wilhite had close ties to Clinton and was a former associate of Mack Mclarty (long time friend and counselor of Bill Clinton)
•Paula Gober: died 1992 from an unwitnessed one car accident. She traveled with Clinton and was his speech interpreter for the deaf for 4 years.
•Paul Wilcher: died 1993 from an "undetermined cause". He was a Washington attorney, who was investigating gov. corruption in the Mena Arkansas drug running organization and the BATF assault in the Waco ordeal. He had turned in a lengthy affidavit to Janet Reno only 3 weeks prior to his mysterious death! His body was found in a Washington apartment. His reports and documents have never been released.
•Robert Williams, Todd McKeehan, Conway LeBleau and Steve Willis: all died in 1993 from identical gunshot wounds to their left temples. They were the only BATF agents killed in Waco, Texas during the Branch Davidian raid. They also just happen to have been Clinton bodyguards!
•Scott Reynolds, William Barkley, Brian Hassley and Tim Sabel: all died in a "freak" helicopter crash in 1993, All 4 men had served as Clinton bodyguards. The helicopter crash site, near Quantico Virginia was barred from reporters and a video of the crash site, taken by a fire fighter, was seized by military officials.
•Gary Rhodes, William Robertson, William Desberger and Robert Kelly: all died in another helicopter crash in 1993. This one occurred in Germany and the cause was never determined. All 4 men were Clinton Bodyguards. They, along with 8 other men who were associated with Clinton's previous visit to the U.S.S. Roosevelt, died within a 4 month period!
•Vince Foster: died 1993 from a gunshot wound to the head. Long time "friend" of Hillary (Bill too) Clinton. He was the White House Deputy Counsel at the time of his murder....oh!. excuse me, suicide. Why do so many people who know the Clinton's want to kill themselves? I may add another page later to explain my many reasons for believing Foster's death to have been a murder and a sloppy cover up attempt. Many people, including some Republican Congressmen, have tried (as recently as July 1998) to get the Clinton Justice Dept. to re-open the investigation into Vincent Foster's death.
•Jon Parnell Walker: died 1993 from injuries received after "falling" from an apartment balcony at the top of the Lincoln Towers. This was a place in which Vince Foster was reported to use as a getaway! Walker was an investigator for the RTC (Resolution Trust Corporation) who was investigating the Whitewater affair and the Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan bankruptcy scandal. Walker was attempting to have the investigation moved from Arkansas to Washington at the time of his alleged slip off the top of the Lincoln Towers.
•Luther (Jerry) Parks: died from multiple gunshot wounds in 1993. His body was found by an intersection on I-10 outside Little Rock. He was the head of the Security Team at Clinton's National Campaign Headquarters in Arkansas. He had compiled a large file involving illicit activities (including sexual affairs) by Bill Clinton.
By the way,just prior to his death, his house was burglarized and all of his files and photos on Clinton and "friends" were stolen! With 9 bullets having been removed from his body, the suicide theory has not yet been applied to this one!

•Stanley Heard and Steven Dickson: died 1993 in an unexplained airplane crash near the Dulles airport. Dickson was counsel to Heard, who was the chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Committee. Heard had also known and treated Clinton's mother and other Clinton family members.....
"But at least he hadn't shot anyone." - ... (show quote)



Just can't quite come to grips with the Trump Presidency, eh? Cause you know that's what this thread is about. Here you are still slandering the Clintons and fighting the last war. Time to move on.

You just gonna follow the Liar-in-Chief over any cliff he wants to go over?

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Apr 4, 2017 20:57:19   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
working class stiff wrote:
Just can't quite come to grips with the Trump Presidency, eh? Cause you know that's what this thread is about. Here you are still slandering the Clintons and fighting the last war. Time to move on.

You just gonna follow the Liar-in-Chief over any cliff he wants to go over?


Hillary Songs:
Whining Crying Rioting Hillary Millennial Theme Song - Dana Kamide
https://youtu.be/aVlHZh5dvbA

The Hillary Shimmy Song
https://youtu.be/Xs0AupRWyC0

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Apr 4, 2017 23:19:01   #
grandaddy1946 Loc: Florida
 
Did someone drop you on your head when you were born?

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Apr 4, 2017 23:26:48   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
grandaddy1946 wrote:
Did someone drop you on your head when you were born?


No. You?

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Apr 5, 2017 06:18:35   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I hear a lot of denial, but no real argument that makes any sense. This kind of response is exactly what I mean. Trump is a billionaire and as such believes that he can lay hands on any woman he wants to, walk into dressing rooms as beauty contestants are semi dressed, cheat on his wives. He is very good at calling people names like crooked Hillary, Little Marco, etc., etc. People that say they are evangelistic Christians just go along. Does Trump trump Jesus?
His political behavior is even worse than his moral behavior. He openly lies about everything, and when he is called on it by journalists he finds some way to divert attention to some other matter which is usually nonsense, or has nothing to do with what is being discussed. So many of his political buddies are in some way involved with the Russians. His chief adviser, Banion is best known for giving nazis and other far right crazies a platform for racist views. He still hasn't released his tax returns or health records. Can you think of any other President that has shown that he is as unfit for the high office as Trump?
I hear a lot of denial, but no real argument that ... (show quote)


Clinton Bush (both) and Obama.

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Apr 5, 2017 06:51:23   #
rebob14
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Here we are about three months plus into Trumps Presidency. From what I read in news sources with a good reputation, like the New York Times, Washington Post and CNN, Trump has been a terrible President. I won't go over the long, long list of actions that makes him so. What is becoming so obvious is that no matter what the news sources say, Trump still enjoys the absolute support of his base of supporters. The Republicans of the House of Representatives, are pulling out all the stops to cover up possible actions of the administration's policies concerning the all too cozy relationship with Putin's Russia. They use diversions, half truths and outright partisan lies to accomplish this. If Trump was a Democrat, I would scream for further investigations and maybe impeachment.
It's really turning out to be a political cult. No matter what this President does, from sexual assault to possible treason, Trump's base continues to give their hero unlimited support and dismiss all the charges and evidence against him as some kind of media conspiracy.
They refuse to imagine that Trump could be guilty of any of of these charges. They ignore known negative facts about him like the constant outpouring of lies from him. His popularity continues to slide to around thirty percent, and still his hard core base refuses to believe what most of the US population thinks about him.
Here we are about three months plus into Trumps Pr... (show quote)

Garbage in, garbage out............should diversity include information??

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Apr 5, 2017 06:53:22   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Here we are about three months plus into Trumps Presidency. From what I read in news sources with a good reputation, like the New York Times, Washington Post and CNN, Trump has been a terrible President. I won't go over the long, long list of actions that makes him so. What is becoming so obvious is that no matter what the news sources say, Trump still enjoys the absolute support of his base of supporters. The Republicans of the House of Representatives, are pulling out all the stops to cover up possible actions of the administration's policies concerning the all too cozy relationship with Putin's Russia. They use diversions, half truths and outright partisan lies to accomplish this. If Trump was a Democrat, I would scream for further investigations and maybe impeachment.
It's really turning out to be a political cult. No matter what this President does, from sexual assault to possible treason, Trump's base continues to give their hero unlimited support and dismiss all the charges and evidence against him as some kind of media conspiracy.
They refuse to imagine that Trump could be guilty of any of of these charges. They ignore known negative facts about him like the constant outpouring of lies from him. His popularity continues to slide to around thirty percent, and still his hard core base refuses to believe what most of the US population thinks about him.
Here we are about three months plus into Trumps Pr... (show quote)


Your first mistake is referring to the NY Times, or CNN as "reliable." If you want cozy with Russia, you should look to Obama's pet harpy Hillary, and her number one boy John Podesta. Both are far more culpable. If Trump was a Democrat, you would scream it was all lies, just like you did with Obama and Hillary. If you want "possible sexual assault," look no further than Slick Willie Clinton. (Had Hillary won the presidency, just where the hell did you THINK he was going to hang his hat and his overactive libido?)
Possible treason? How about actual treason?[/i] How about the Iran deal that the Administration finally admitted was a fake, that the Senate would not approve? What would you call giving aid and comfort to an Iranian government that is actively hostile to us, and has committed acts of violence and murder on US citizens? Obooboo's "deal" left Iran with 5400 centrifuges, more than enough to continue their nuke program. His "ironclad" inspection requirement included a provision allowing no US inspectors on Iranian soil, placed many of Iran's nuclear research facilities off limits to ANY inspection and required that Iran be given a minimum of 30 days notice of any inspection. Then they were given billions of dollars while they were actively violating the provisions of even this weak kneed gimme.
Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. Did you think they were going to use that money to build hospitals for rape victims and indigent homosexuals?
Iran actively supports terror groups that are responsible for the deaths of US citizens, and attacks on our military. They were doing this while Clinton and later Kerry were giving them every damn thing they wanted in the treaty negotiations. You have the gall to put this up against "allegations?"
What would you call "Fast and Furious?" An Administration that covers up "losing" more than 2500 firearms in a botched sting, and then not only refuses to prosecute those responsible, but improperly uses "Executive Privilege" as a shield for that asshole Eric Holder?

Aren't we just the perfect little self-righteous hypocrite today?

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Apr 5, 2017 07:24:25   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
ed4short wrote:
Excellent response Super Dave!!!!
Some people are just blind to the obvious



He isn't blind, he is just a stupid liar. What he is saying is false and he thinks simply repeating this swill endlessly will persuade anyone with half a brain that he is correct.

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Apr 5, 2017 07:56:18   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Loki wrote:
Your first mistake is referring to the NY Times, or CNN as "reliable." If you want cozy with Russia, you should look to Obama's pet harpy Hillary, and her number one boy John Podesta. Both are far more culpable. If Trump was a Democrat, you would scream it was all lies, just like you did with Obama and Hillary. If you want "possible sexual assault," look no further than Slick Willie Clinton. (Had Hillary won the presidency, just where the hell did you THINK he was going to hang his hat and his overactive libido?)
Possible treason? How about actual treason?[/i] How about the Iran deal that the Administration finally admitted was a fake, that the Senate would not approve? What would you call giving aid and comfort to an Iranian government that is actively hostile to us, and has committed acts of violence and murder on US citizens? Obooboo's "deal" left Iran with 5400 centrifuges, more than enough to continue their nuke program. His "ironclad" inspection requirement included a provision allowing no US inspectors on Iranian soil, placed many of Iran's nuclear research facilities off limits to ANY inspection and required that Iran be given a minimum of 30 days notice of any inspection. Then they were given billions of dollars while they were actively violating the provisions of even this weak kneed gimme.
Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. Did you think they were going to use that money to build hospitals for rape victims and indigent homosexuals?
Iran actively supports terror groups that are responsible for the deaths of US citizens, and attacks on our military. They were doing this while Clinton and later Kerry were giving them every damn thing they wanted in the treaty negotiations. You have the gall to put this up against "allegations?"
What would you call "Fast and Furious?" An Administration that covers up "losing" more than 2500 firearms in a botched sting, and then not only refuses to prosecute those responsible, but improperly uses "Executive Privilege" as a shield for that asshole Eric Holder?

Aren't we just the perfect little self-righteous hypocrite today?
Your first mistake is referring to the i NY Times... (show quote)


"Aren't we just the perfect little self-righteous hypocrite today?" - loki
Yep; Saltwind is a real piece of work.

Saltwind/Saltwater says, "The word " Satan" in Hebrew means advisory. In the Old Testament, Satan is seen as a prosecuting angel. He is an advisary of man, not G-d. The prosecutor in a modern day trial is not an enemy of the legal system, he, or she is a vital part of it."

Democrat, Podesta Russian meetings:
PODESTA SECRET IS OUT! His Connection to Russia Exposed! The 1 Thing He Didn't Want..
https://youtu.be/EuCMursOfqg

SEVEN DEMOCRATS MET WITH RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR: Democrat Lied About Meeting Russian Ambassador
https://youtu.be/gEJdFryxRWw
Another backfiring Democrat investigation?

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Apr 5, 2017 08:02:44   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
1) Fake stories you ask:
Fake news that there was Russia/Trump collusion by the entire MSM? Does that one ring a bell?
The NYT published in it's paper that Trump was 'Wiretapped', and only retracted if after they figured out it was anti-Obama to publish it.



2) OK.. 10,000 times as big as Watergate? That better?
The Obama admin had a premeditated plan to use cover secure national intel services to spy on the opposing campaign... It doesn't get much sleazier than that.


Name a single story that's said there is collusion between Trump and Puttie? And the intelligence community spies on our enemies. If Trumps cronies hadn't been taking to the Russians then they wouldn't have been spied on. Of course you never thought of that did you!!! Oh, one more thing--Nunes said the listening was legal. That means NO US laws were broken and in the conversation laws WERE broken else the names of Trump cronies couldn't have been released. So does that mean collusion took place between Puttie and his puppet? Well, you draw your own conclusion--I certainly have...

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Apr 5, 2017 08:10:57   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
PeterS wrote:
Name a single story that's said there is collusion between Trump and Puttie? And the intelligence community spies on our enemies. If Trumps cronies hadn't been taking to the Russians then they wouldn't have been spied on. Of course you never thought of that did you!!! Oh, one more thing--Nunes said the listening was legal. That means NO US laws were broken and in the conversation laws WERE broken else the names of Trump cronies couldn't have been released. So does that mean collusion took place between Puttie and his puppet? Well, you draw your own conclusion--I certainly have...
Name a single story that's said there is collusion... (show quote)


Democrat, Podesta Russian meetings:
PODESTA SECRET IS OUT! His Connection to Russia Exposed! The 1 Thing He Didn't Want..
https://youtu.be/EuCMursOfqg

SEVEN DEMOCRATS MET WITH RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR: Democrat Lied About Meeting Russian Ambassador
https://youtu.be/gEJdFryxRWw
Another backfiring Democrat investigation?

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Apr 5, 2017 08:37:38   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
PeterS wrote:
Name a single story that's said there is collusion between Trump and Puttie? And the intelligence community spies on our enemies. If Trumps cronies hadn't been taking to the Russians then they wouldn't have been spied on. Of course you never thought of that did you!!! Oh, one more thing--Nunes said the listening was legal. That means NO US laws were broken and in the conversation laws WERE broken else the names of Trump cronies couldn't have been released. So does that mean collusion took place between Puttie and his puppet? Well, you draw your own conclusion--I certainly have...
Name a single story that's said there is collusion... (show quote)


Yes, as usual you reason from false premise to false conclusion. Trump's cronies, members of Congress, Hillary Clinton's staffers and a host of others talk to Russians. Talking of itself proves nothing. As far as we have been told such spying was done on the Russians and any Americans were incidental. The US laws which were broken were not related to the act of spying, on the Russians, but were related to the handling of that information. Your assertion that there was evidence of illegality recorded is totally unfounded. The heads of the major spy departments are on record as saying no evidence of wrongdoing was found and no one has any verifiable information to the contrary. By that I mean show me some testimony under oath, by anyone.

The names were released illegally and this crime was perpetrated by Obama staffers. There is collusion, Obama and his sycophants, Hillary Clinton and Red Diaper Podesta are the conspirators and they are involved in a concerted effort to sabotage the government of this nation. Obama/Clinton and their cabal have put their agenda and their control as the only form of government we should be allowed. They forget that they serve by the consent of the governed. They are traitors and should be tried as such.

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Apr 5, 2017 08:44:17   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Here we are about three months plus into Trumps Presidency. From what I read in news sources with a good reputation, like the New York Times, Washington Post and CNN, Trump has been a terrible President. I won't go over the long, long list of actions that makes him so. What is becoming so obvious is that no matter what the news sources say, Trump still enjoys the absolute support of his base of supporters. The Republicans of the House of Representatives, are pulling out all the stops to cover up possible actions of the administration's policies concerning the all too cozy relationship with Putin's Russia. They use diversions, half truths and outright partisan lies to accomplish this. If Trump was a Democrat, I would scream for further investigations and maybe impeachment.
It's really turning out to be a political cult. No matter what this President does, from sexual assault to possible treason, Trump's base continues to give their hero unlimited support and dismiss all the charges and evidence against him as some kind of media conspiracy.
They refuse to imagine that Trump could be guilty of any of of these charges. They ignore known negative facts about him like the constant outpouring of lies from him. His popularity continues to slide to around thirty percent, and still his hard core base refuses to believe what most of the US population thinks about him.
Here we are about three months plus into Trumps Pr... (show quote)



Well, Salt, let me help you out a bit. When you refer to the NY Times, the Washington Post and CNN as having good reputations, you would be wise to check out a few other sources. A good reputation for what and among whom? I believe you are one who reads only certified left-wing sources and would not think of picking up anything remotely resembling anything conservative such as WND or listening to Rush Limbaugh or Dennis Prager. As long as you are willing to remain locked in your little leftist room and ignore or even demonize anything not leftist, then you are going to be stuck in the same rut - not ever seeing the light. You remind me of an acquaintance on Facebook who continues to post anything negative about Trump, most of which is hilarious, but he thinks it is the truth because he got it from "Media Matters" or heard it on "The View".

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