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Mar 26, 2017 11:40:25   #
Dr.Dross
 
The heightened aggression by Russian-backed separatists in the Ukraine (the day after Putin and Trump talked).

The Kremlin is violating the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, which poses a direct nuclear threat against America.

A pair of Russian Su-24 jets pass in close proximity to the USS Porter on February 10, 2017.

A Russian spy ship that made a foray near a U.S. Navy submarine base in Connecticut in February is once again in international waters off the East Coast of the United States, presumably to monitor activity at American Navy bases.

Denis Voronenkov, a key witness in a Ukrainian treason case against pro-Russia former president Viktor Yanukovich, was shot by an unidentified assailant in central Kiev on Thursday. This is the ninth such death of an anti-Putin activist. Then we also have the "accidental" fall of Russian whistle-blower, Nikolai Gorokhov, from his 4th floor apartment.

No comment from Trump. Not a word. Why not?

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Mar 26, 2017 11:44:45   #
roadster Loc: Arizona
 
I wish I could answer that question, who not?
I have a guess right now, but prefer to keep that to myself until I gather more facts. I think it's going to be difficult to find credible facts and not fabricated facts.
Good post.

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Mar 26, 2017 11:45:35   #
roadster Loc: Arizona
 
Oooops type-o should say ", why not"?

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Mar 26, 2017 11:47:22   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
The heightened aggression by Russian-backed separatists in the Ukraine (the day after Putin and Trump talked).

The Kremlin is violating the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, which poses a direct nuclear threat against America.

A pair of Russian Su-24 jets pass in close proximity to the USS Porter on February 10, 2017.

A Russian spy ship that made a foray near a U.S. Navy submarine base in Connecticut in February is once again in international waters off the East Coast of the United States, presumably to monitor activity at American Navy bases.

Denis Voronenkov, a key witness in a Ukrainian treason case against pro-Russia former president Viktor Yanukovich, was shot by an unidentified assailant in central Kiev on Thursday. This is the ninth such death of an anti-Putin activist. Then we also have the "accidental" fall of Russian whistle-blower, Nikolai Gorokhov, from his 4th floor apartment.

No comment from Trump. Not a word. Why not?
The heightened aggression by Russian-backed separa... (show quote)


I have spoken personally with Mr. Trump on this subject .. He is considering nuking your house before striking Russia .. find a table to get under ...

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Mar 26, 2017 11:58:43   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Wow, two jets buzzed us and we didn't go to war. I wonder what we'd do if say an Iranian ship boarded a US vessel and took Americans prisoner. Oh that's right they did and the Obama administration did do something. They apologized and thanked the Iranians for embarrassing our military.
reconreb wrote:
I have spoken personally with Mr. Trump on this subject .. He is considering nuking your house before striking Russia .. find a table to get under ...

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Mar 26, 2017 11:59:43   #
Dr.Dross
 
reconreb wrote:
I have spoken personally with Mr. Trump on this subject .. He is considering nuking your house before striking Russia .. find a table to get under ...


I have a few tables; need more info.

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Mar 26, 2017 12:16:25   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
I have a few tables; need more info.


you have one too few !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get ,, it



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Mar 26, 2017 12:38:02   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
WOW, you liberals certainly take all the Democrats lies for excuses why Hillary Clinton lost the election, very seriously. Point here is that Julian Assange came out and said that Russia had nothing to do with the DNC and Clinton campaign e-mails that Wikileaks released, but said it was a DNC employee who worked in the IT department of the DNC who leaked the e-mails to Wikileaks. Julian Assange and Wikileaks have been releasing information to the public for more than 11 years now, and in all that time not once has anyone proven that they ever lied or released false information. Too bad Obama and Hillary Clinton cannot honestly make the same claim.

Seth Rich was the #2 person in the DNC IT department, and a big supporter of Bernie Sanders, and when it was exposed that the DNC had cheated Bernie Sanders out of the chance to win the Democratic nomination for the Presidency, Seth Rich and a few of his buddies at the DNC were pissed.

Why wouldn't the DNC allow the FBI to check their computers? Because it is very easy to check each DNC computer to find which one had copied all those e-mails, and expose the person who did the leaking by who was assigned to that computer, which the DNC had done, but didn't want the FBI to learn who it was. Why? Because the week after the e-mails were released by Wikileaks, Seth Rich was mysteriously murdered while walking home in his high class and expensive neighborhood, just outside of DC. Being shot in the back twice, the authorities found Seth Rich on the street and took him to a nearby local hospital, where he later died. Seth Rich had a very expensive cell phone on his person, that wasn't touched, a very expensive watch, that also wasn't touched, and his wallet was filled with many credit cards and and an extremely high amount of cash, that also wasn't touched, making the motive for this murder a mystery.

The Clinton campaigned then hired an expensive New York advertisement agency just to work only on putting out propaganda about Seth Rich's murder, which they immediately claimed that it was a robbery gone wrong. The local police denied that theory, because none of the very expensive items on Seth Rich's person were ever touched, and to this day they can't find a motive, or a suspect, for this mysterious murder of Seth Rich.

But the story doesn't end there, for then Wikileaks came out and advertised a $20,000.00 reward for any information that would lead to the arrest and conviction of anyone responsible for Seth Rich's death. So why would Wikileaks do this, get involved in Seth Rich's death, and what would their connection to Seth Rich be?

Most people who know these facts believe that the DNC did check their computers, and found that it was Seth Rich's computer that had copied all those e-mails, then passed that information to Hillary Clinton. Then the Clintons had him killed, for being the one who leaked all her damaging information, in order to get even for what Hillary Clinton and the DNC did to cheat Bernie Sanders out of the nomination.

This killed two birds with one stone. They got revenge on Seth Rich for what he did to Hillary Clinton, and put a huge scare into anyone else who was thinking about crossing the Clintons, like Huma Abedine and her body-part-exposing husband. But why wouldn't Obama allow the federal law enforcemnet agencies to look into all these facts? Because it would just make the Democrats look even worse than the damaging leaked e-mail information about Hillary Clinton. (Since the murder of Seth Rich, 4 other DNC and Clinton associates were also mysteriously murdered in just a 6 week period, and all of them can be linked to the leaked and released DNC and Clinton campaign damaging e-mails. There has been no motive or suspects found in any of these 5 mysterious murders.)

But getting back to what Putin and the Russians have been doing, that you're complaining about, because President Trump hasn't come out and said something on a national forum about it. Why should he, Putin and the Russians were doing all the exact same things when Obama was President, and Obama never said or did anything about it. In fact Putin and the Russians did even worse while Obama was President, they invaded and took the Crimea from the Ukraine, and have been sending their surrogates into eastern Ukraine to take over Ukraine territory, so they can put a highway from Russia, down into the Crimea, to use to supply troops and equipment to the Crimea by truck, instead of by ship.

Obama even refused to allow the Ukraines to buy weapons from us to protect themselves from the Russians and their surrogates invading the eastern Ukraine. Lets see if President Trump sells the Ukraines the weapons they need to defend themselves against the Russians.

The only thing Obama ever did to the Russians was put sanctions on them, that doesn't have much of an effect (example Iran), and mostly to legitimize the lies Obama has spread about Putin and the Russians affecting our elections, yet won't say how it was done or who did it. If they know it is the Russians, then they must know who it was that actually did the hacking of the computers. Yet they haven't said who it was that passed the hacked information to the Russians, but just named the usual suspects, but can't prove who it was, even among the usual suspects, or if it even ever happened, because the DNC won't allow the FBI to check the DNC computers, and we all also know why they won't.

What did the Russians do to influence the election? They helped the Democrats finally deliver on their promises of transparency. Supposedly the Russians hacked the DNC and Clinton campaign, and published the information through Wikileaks, so the American people could learn what the Democrats were doing and saying behind the American people's backs, instead of keeping it hidden from the American people. Heaven forbid, the Russians gave the American people real and true information about Hillary Clinton and the Democrats, so the American people could make an informed decision on who they should vote for. Oh my GOD, how horrible and undefensible that crime is, informing the American people of the truth. Hang them all high, and find some kind of connection with President Trump, so he can also be hung by the lying Democrats.



Dr.Dross wrote:
The heightened aggression by Russian-backed separatists in the Ukraine (the day after Putin and Trump talked).

The Kremlin is violating the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, which poses a direct nuclear threat against America.

A pair of Russian Su-24 jets pass in close proximity to the USS Porter on February 10, 2017.

A Russian spy ship that made a foray near a U.S. Navy submarine base in Connecticut in February is once again in international waters off the East Coast of the United States, presumably to monitor activity at American Navy bases.

Denis Voronenkov, a key witness in a Ukrainian treason case against pro-Russia former president Viktor Yanukovich, was shot by an unidentified assailant in central Kiev on Thursday. This is the ninth such death of an anti-Putin activist. Then we also have the "accidental" fall of Russian whistle-blower, Nikolai Gorokhov, from his 4th floor apartment.

No comment from Trump. Not a word. Why not?
The heightened aggression by Russian-backed separa... (show quote)

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Mar 26, 2017 12:55:34   #
Dr.Dross
 
JFlorio wrote:
Wow, two jets buzzed us and we didn't go to war. I wonder what we'd do if say an Iranian ship boarded a US vessel and took Americans prisoner. Oh that's right they did and the Obama administration did do something. They apologized and thanked the Iranians for embarrassing our military.


You are missing the point. This action was a sign of aggression, a taunt, by the Russians. They came "dangerously close" to that vessel. Now the point: Trump said nothing. And what does that say to the Russians? Full speed ahead. It was not your ridiculous point that the president should declare because of it. But that he needed to say something. He did not. The actions of the Russian pilots were deliberate. Okay, maybe playground huffing and puffing but an offense that required a response. "Back off or else," to show this country is not open to veiled threats. Trump said nothing.

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Mar 26, 2017 12:57:32   #
Dr.Dross
 
reconreb wrote:
you have one too few !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get ,, it


funny,,

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Mar 26, 2017 13:14:49   #
Dr.Dross
 
Randy131 wrote:
WOW, you liberals certainly take all the Democrats lies for excuses why Hillary Clinton lost the election, very seriously. Point here is that Julian Assange came out and said that Russia had nothing to do with the DNC and Clinton campaign e-mails that Wikileaks released, but said it was a DNC employee who worked in the IT department of the DNC who leaked the e-mails to Wikileaks. Julian Assange and Wikileaks have been releasing information to the public for more than 11 years now, and in all that time not once has anyone proven that they ever lied or released false information. Too bad Obama and Hillary Clinton cannot honestly make the same claim. Seth Rich as the #2 person in the DNC IT department, and a big supporter of Bernie Sanders, and when it was exposed that the DNC had cheated Bernie Sanders out of the chance to win the Democratic nomination for the Presidency, Seth Rich and a few of his buddies were pissed. Why wouldn't the DNC allow the FBI to check their computers? Because it is very easy to check each DNC computer to find which one had copied all those e-mails, and expose the person who did the leaking by who was assigned that computer, which the DNC had done, but didn't want the FBI to learn who it was. Why? Because the week after the e-mails were released by Wikileaks, Seth Rich was mysteriously murdered walking home in his high class and expensive neighborhood just outside of DC, being shot in the back twice, the authorities found him on the street and took him to the nearby local hospital, where he later died. He had a very expensive cell phone on his person, that wasn't touched, a very expensive watch, that also wasn't touched, and his wallet was filled with many credit cards and and an extremely high amount of cash, that also wasn't touched. The Clinton campaigned hired an expensive New York advertisement agency just to work on putting out propaganda about Seth Rich's murder, which they then claimed it was a robbery gone wrong. The local police denied that theory because none of the very expensive items on his person were touched, and to this day they can't find a motive or a suspect for this mysterious murder of Seth Rich. But the story doesn't end there, for then Wikileaks came out an advertised a $20,000.00 reward for any information that would lead to the arrest and conviction of anyone responsible for Seth Rich's death. So why would Wikileaks do this, get involved in Seth Rich's death, and what is their connection to Seth Rich? Most people who know these facts believe that the DNC did check their computers, and found that it was Seth Rich's computer that had copied all those e-mails, then passed that information to Hillary Clinton, and then the Clintons had him killed for being the one who leaked all her damaging information, in order to get even for what they did to cheat Bernie Sanders out of the nomination, and put a huge scare into anyone else who was thinking about crossing the Clintons, like Huma Abedine and her body-part-exposing husband. But why would Obama allow the federal law enforcemnet agencies to look into all these facts, it would just make the Democrats look even worse than the leaked e-mail damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

But getting back to what Putin and the Russians have been doing, that you're complaining about, because President Trump hasn't come out and said something on a national forum about it. Why should he, Putin and the Russians were doing all the exact same things when Obama was President, and Obama never said or did anything about it. In fact Putin and the Russians did even worse, they invaded and took the Crimea from the Ukraine, and have been sending their surrogates into eastern Ukraine to take over Ukraine territory so they can put a highway from Russia down into the Crimea, to use to supply troops and equipment to the Crimea by truck, instead of by ship. Obama refused to allow the Ukraines to buy weapons from us to protect themselves from the Russians and their surrogates invading the eastern Ukraine. Lets see if President Trump sells the Ukraines the weapons they need to defend themselves against the Russians. The only thing Obama ever did to the Russians was put sanctions on them, that doesn't have much of an effect, and mostly to legitimize the lies Obama has spread about Putin and the Russians effecting our elections, yet won't say how it was done or who did it, if they know it is the Russians, then they know who it was that actually did the hacking of the computers, yet they haven't said who it was that passed the hacked information to the Russians, but just named the usual suspects, but can't prove who it was, or even if it ever happened, because the DNC won't allow the FBI to check their com puters, and we all know why they won't too. What did the Russians do to influence the election? They helped the Democrats finally deliver on their promises of transparency. Supposedly the Russians hacked the DNC and Clinton campaign, and published the information through Wikileaks, so the American people could learn what the Democrats were doing and saying behind the American people's backs, and keeping it hidden from the American people. Heaven forbid, the Russians gave the American people real and true information about Hillary Clinton and the Democrats, so the American people could make an informed decision on who they should vote for, oh my GOD, how horrible and undefensible that crime is, informing the American people of the truth.
WOW, you liberals certainly take all the Democrats... (show quote)


You will have better luck being read if you breakdown your response into shorter paragraphs. I am speaking for myself.

First, I was not complaining about anything; I was observing a non-response by Trump over these serious incidents.

"Why should he, Putin and the Russians were doing all the exact same things when Obama was President, and Obama never said or did anything about it."
Obama put sanctions on Russia. Most Russians cannot afford to buy shoes. It has had a devastating effect on that country.

Obama did not spread facts or lies about how the Russians may have influenced our election. That was our Intelligence agencies.

Trump is outraged over leaks in his office, and jubilant about leaks in Hillary's campaign. In the month before the election, he mentioned the leaks 164 times. Never once did he state any outrage or question about such an invasion of privacy.

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Mar 26, 2017 13:20:53   #
vernon
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
The heightened aggression by Russian-backed separatists in the Ukraine (the day after Putin and Trump talked).

The Kremlin is violating the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, which poses a direct nuclear threat against America.

A pair of Russian Su-24 jets pass in close proximity to the USS Porter on February 10, 2017.

A Russian spy ship that made a foray near a U.S. Navy submarine base in Connecticut in February is once again in international waters off the East Coast of the United States, presumably to monitor activity at American Navy bases.

Denis Voronenkov, a key witness in a Ukrainian treason case against pro-Russia former president Viktor Yanukovich, was shot by an unidentified assailant in central Kiev on Thursday. This is the ninth such death of an anti-Putin activist. Then we also have the "accidental" fall of Russian whistle-blower, Nikolai Gorokhov, from his 4th floor apartment.

No comment from Trump. Not a word. Why not?
The heightened aggression by Russian-backed separa... (show quote)



This is an innuendo ,produce the contents of the letter or you are a liar.

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Mar 26, 2017 13:49:44   #
Dr.Dross
 
vernon wrote:
This is an innuendo ,produce the contents of the letter or you are a liar.


What letter? What are you talking about?

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Mar 26, 2017 20:07:02   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
"You will have better luck being read if you breakdown your response into shorter paragraphs. I am speaking for myself."

I did break it up into several paragraphs, it is the 7th comment down from your original comment, take a look and see if you can read it bettter. You must have read it while I was breaking it up, for I typed it first, and then went back and seperated it into paragraphs.

"First, I was not complaining about anything; I was observing a non-response by Trump over these serious incidents."

Your title to your comment, "To Russia, with silence: a love note from Trump", sure insinuates scarcasm and a complaint to me, but maybe I'm being overly defensive.

"Obama put sanctions on Russia. Most Russians cannot afford to buy shoes. It has had a devastating effect on that country."

Come on now, do you really expect us to believe that the Russians are going without shoes, and that Obama's sanctions have caused that falacy? There are many people around the world, in 1st world and 3rd world countries that go without shoes, they're called poor people. I have a homeless man living on a lot I own, and he has no shoes, and I've asked him twice now if I got him shoes, would he wear them, and he has told me no twice, but I still can't get him off my mind and worry about him. The Sheriff's Department wanted me to sign a 'Trespass Warrant' against him, so I asked the Deputy that if I did, did he have a place for him to go? He said no, so I then said I would not sign the 'Trespass Warrant', because everyone needs a place to stay in order to live, even the homeless, and until he finds him a place to stay, he can stay on my property. The Deputy then called 'Code Enforcement' and had them send me a certified letter saying that If I didn't clean up my lot, they would fine me $150.00 a day from ten days after I received their registered letter. So I and my son-in-law went out to the lot and spent 3 hours loading up all the trash and carried it off to the dump. The Sheriff's office and 'Code Enforcement' are pissed at me now, but the homeless guy is still living on my lot. There were much worse sanctions put on Iran over many years, yet they accomplished nothing, Obama gave them everything, and they're still working on their nuclear program and their ballistic missle systems, and Russia has much more availability to work pass any of our sanctions than Iran had, they're a huge nation, and have a seat on the UN Security council, are you really naive enough to think our sanctions are anything more than an inconvenience. If Iran wouldn't nuckle under, do you think the Russians will?

"Obama did not spread facts or lies about how the Russians may have influenced our election. That was our Intelligence agencies."

Yes he did, he stated on national TV that he was told about their hacking of our election back in July of 2016, and he claimed the results of it affected the outcome of our election, and helped Hillary Clinton lose. He also said in that same interview that he is ordering all our security agencies to find any evidence of the Trump's campaign collusion with those efforts, an insinuation to the American people that President Trump was in cahoots with the Russians, and that the Russians were therfore controling our elections, what a bunch of BS. There has been zero proof of any evidence of this, but Obama insinuated that there was and our security agancies would find it, yet our security agencies keep reporting that they can find no evidence, but since Obama said it, the Democrats keep screaming for more investigations. Really, if there was even a hint of evidence, don't you think Obama would have made it public. Our security agencies don't even know who hacked the DNC and Clinton campaign e-mails, if they ever were hacked, which I believe there is enough proof out there that it was all leaked by Seth Rich. But the security agencies keep saying if it was hacked, it was the usual suspects that did it, that some supposedly have ties with the Russians, but the security agencies don't have any proof who did hack those e-mails, again if they were even hacked, because the DNC will not allow anyone to investigate their computers, and I've already expalined why.

"Trump is outraged over leaks in his office, and jubilant about leaks in Hillary's campaign."

Come on now, the leaks coming out of President Trump's office are classified materials, and is against the law to make public, especially the names of Americans mentioned in what has been hacked through FISA court foreign warrants. The DNC and Clinton campaign are private concerns, nothing to do with our frederal government, and are not classified to make it illegal to make public. You're not smart enough to see the difference in the distinction of what was made public, things the DNC and Hillary Clinton did that were amoral, and the reason they were being hidden from the American people. How did Russia influence the election? By helping Democrats finally deliver on their promises of transparency, and nothing was illegal about it, unless you consider the result of Seth Rich being murdered.

"In the month before the election, he mentioned the leaks 164 times. Never once did he state any outrage or question about such an invasion of privacy."

What outrage, the Democrats were doing the same thing to Donald Trump, or have you forgotten the release of his tax returns, which was against the law, and the video about him saying things that were not nice about some women, a form of lockerroom braggadocio, which I truly doubt if any of that was true, for I've seen people do the same thing on construction sites many times on a daily basis. And now MSNBC also releases more of President Trump's tax returns, also against the law. Nothing that was released from the DNC and Clinton campaign leaked e-mails were against the law, in fact they were things that the American voter had a right to know to make an informed decision on who they should vote for, and it seems many did, and now the Democrats are throwing sour grapes because of it, the American people learned what Hillary Clinton and the Democrats really think of them and what they do in secret that is not for their benefit, that was being hidden from the public through lies, but those leaks exposed the real truth. Besides, what President Trump was saying on the campaign trail is that he hoped someone would have hacked the over 30,000 e-mails that Hillary Clinton told the American people to our faces, were not US State Department business, and none were classified, which we have already learned that through the thousands that have now been recovered, what Hillary Clinton told the American people to our faces were nothing but outright lies on both US State Department business, and classified documents, and Trump was hoping someone could retrieve all of them, for the benefit of a more thorough government records system, and the hundreds, if not thousands of times Hillary Clinton mishandled classified documents, even though Obama's double standard dual justice system refuses to indict her on what plainly was violations of our laws, and much more severe than our military people that were prosecuted and punished for just in 2016. Here again the ugly Democratic 'HYPOCRISY' raises it's ugly head.









Dr.Dross wrote:
You will have better luck being read if you breakdown your response into shorter paragraphs. I am speaking for myself.

First, I was not complaining about anything; I was observing a non-response by Trump over these serious incidents.

"Why should he, Putin and the Russians were doing all the exact same things when Obama was President, and Obama never said or did anything about it."
Obama put sanctions on Russia. Most Russians cannot afford to buy shoes. It has had a devastating effect on that country.

Obama did not spread facts or lies about how the Russians may have influenced our election. That was our Intelligence agencies.

Trump is outraged over leaks in his office, and jubilant about leaks in Hillary's campaign. In the month before the election, he mentioned the leaks 164 times. Never once did he state any outrage or question about such an invasion of privacy.
You will have better luck being read if you breakd... (show quote)

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Mar 26, 2017 20:49:21   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
You're right. He should have drawn a red line in the sand; instead of a yellow line down his back like Obama.
Dr.Dross wrote:
You are missing the point. This action was a sign of aggression, a taunt, by the Russians. They came "dangerously close" to that vessel. Now the point: Trump said nothing. And what does that say to the Russians? Full speed ahead. It was not your ridiculous point that the president should declare because of it. But that he needed to say something. He did not. The actions of the Russian pilots were deliberate. Okay, maybe playground huffing and puffing but an offense that required a response. "Back off or else," to show this country is not open to veiled threats. Trump said nothing.
You are missing the point. This action was a sign ... (show quote)

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