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Mar 15, 2017 13:49:34   #
THUNDERBOLT
 
Sons of Liberty wrote:
Awesome Steve! However, no matter how hard we try, I don't think we'll ever convince these progressive liberals how damn stupid they really are.



Here ya go...I have to tell myself,
this is just the way it is.
ThunderBolt



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Mar 15, 2017 14:05:38   #
theotts
 
THUNDERBOLT wrote:
Here ya go...I have to tell myself,
this is just the way it is.
ThunderBolt


Here's some cold water on your circle jerk. Events have proved you wrong innumerable times. Laffer Curves. Extra-Constitutional monkey shines in every Rep. Administration since Eisenhower's. Iraq War. Deregulation. Privatization. Crony capitalism. Flint, MI. Fracking. Pipelines. FEMA. And on and on.
How do you "deal" with this? By denying anything except your lunatic fringe news sources are true. You know, that world of "alternative facts." I strongly suggest you seek psychiatric help.

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Mar 15, 2017 15:43:45   #
Steve700
 
theotts wrote:
Here's some cold water on your circle jerk. Events have proved you wrong innumerable times. Laffer Curves. Extra-Constitutional monkey shines in every Rep. Administration since Eisenhower's. Iraq War. Deregulation. Privatization. Crony capitalism. Flint, MI. Fracking. Pipelines. FEMA. And on and on.
How do you "deal" with this? By denying anything except your lunatic fringe news sources are true. You know, that world of "alternative facts." I strongly suggest you seek psychiatric help.
Here's some cold water on your circle jerk. Events... (show quote)

It is you and the rest of you self-deluded and Marxist programmed immature angry malcontents that are in need of psychiatric help. Half of you are on psychiatric medications and the other half are self-medicating with marijuana and other illegal drugs. Look, no one said that conservatives are perfect. Unike Your Side we just have truth, honesty and integrity as our primary values but we are still subject to the human condition. We do Not have a lunatic fringe. There are staunch conservatives (like myself) and everyone else who are less perfect due to their having been affected by the all pervasive Marxism and our culture. Of course we deny most of what comes from the left because so much of the last of pathological liars and hysterical on top of it, making mountains out of mole hills where if any given imperfection was coming from your side it would be reported and would go unnoticed with it being just typical leftism, a degeneracy that you as well as I know, is to be expected. And that fault you were finding with one of the things I said, has little validity and is only about 1 out of 25 points I made. Face the facts -- you've totally lost the debate with my have been pointed out such numerous ways in which leftism is both evil and wrong.
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Let's get real and stop with the BS that you're pulling out of your ass
Let's get real and stop with the BS that you're pu...

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Mar 15, 2017 16:07:49   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Steve700 wrote:
I don't think you know what fascism is. Fascism is the combining of state and corporate powers which is what is happening in America and that both Pres. Eisenhower and Pres. Kennedy warned about and that Obama has strengthened more than any other president. Fascism could come from either side.

The left is becoming less and less monolithic now days thanks to the asininity and constant deliberate deciet of liberal policymakers like "You can keep your doctor", gay marriage and transgender bathrooms. When the left puts more effort into getting the man into the women's bathrooms then they do creating an environment favorable to producing jobs, people who still have a brain left after the constant barrage of Marxist propaganda see what a bunch of controlling crap is being imposed on them and realize they should leave the Democratic Party. Your Democratic Party is no longer about freedom and holds individuality as a threat, although the liberal preaches diversity. You want groupthink and just like what is stated in the Communist Party's Constitution -- "those who stray from the party line, must be crushed" -- you have absolutely no tolerance for the use of the right. And it's no wonder when your Marxist propaganda teaches that those on the right (like the tea party) who are the productive and hard-working, taxpaying, God-fearing, law-abiding, traditional citizens of America are intolerant, mean-spirited, selfish, hatemongers, war mongers, cheep, racist, bigots, war mongers and haters. No wonder you won't listen to us. You've been programmed with bull shit. Total bull shit, because all those attributes fit the left far more than they do the right.

Why do you bring up Will Rogers who died when I was finishing grade school? Certainly you must realize that the Democratic Party is completely different now and has pretty much taken up the Communist Party line. Their playbook is now Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals which is a book for the communist radical to engineer popular political support for a communist revolution and their tactics are degenerate and despicable and based on deciet by every means possible for the purpose of the acquisition of power.
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I don't think you know what fascism is. Fascism is... (show quote)


Steve700, I don't believe you capable of grasping the truth. You had been previously notified of your error in printing this bogus email claim of the eight levels of Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals. Why do you continue to repeat your errors/lies? Have you no shame? Read the following for a correction of your assertions...

Your above list of steps for “How to create a social state” is not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, nor does it even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about “controlling health care” is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of “increasing the poverty level as high as possible” is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve). This list is simply a modern variant of the decades-old, apocryphal Communist Rules for Revolution piece that was originally passed along without attribution until Alinsky’s name became attached to it (presumably because someone out there thought it sounded like something Alinsky might have written).

The closest analog (in form, if not in content) to your above-reproduced list of “How to create a social state” to be found in the writings of Saul Alinsky is the following list of “power tactics” Alinsky outlined in his 1971 book Rules for Radicals. Note that Alinsky’s list is devoted solely to tactics (i.e., methods for accomplishing goals) and does not specify any particular targets of those tactics (e.g., health care, religion, gun control):

Always remember the first rule of power tactics: Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

The second rule is: Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

The sixth rule is: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.

The seventh rule: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.

The eighth rule: Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

The ninth rule: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

The tenth rule: The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counter-side; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.

The twelfth rule: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. You cannot risk being trapped by the enemy in his sudden agreement with your demand and saying “You’re right — we don’t know what to do about this issue. Now you tell us.”

The thirteenth rule: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

BTW, Steve700, Will Rogers died in 1935. From previous postings by you, I would not have guessed you to be well over ninety years of age!

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Mar 15, 2017 16:31:30   #
theotts
 
Steve700 wrote:
It is you and the rest of you self-deluded and Marxist programmed immature angry malcontents that are in need of psychiatric help. Half of you are on psychiatric medications and the other half are self-medicating with marijuana and other illegal drugs. Look, no one said that conservatives are perfect. Unike Your Side we just have truth, honesty and integrity as our primary values but we are still subject to the human condition. We do Not have a lunatic fringe. There are staunch conservatives (like myself) and everyone else who are less perfect due to their having been affected by the all pervasive Marxism and our culture. Of course we deny most of what comes from the left because so much of the last of pathological liars and hysterical on top of it, making mountains out of mole hills where if any given imperfection was coming from your side it would be reported and would go unnoticed with it being just typical leftism, a degeneracy that you as well as I know, is to be expected. And that fault you were finding with one of the things I said, has little validity and is only about 1 out of 25 points I made. Face the facts -- you've totally lost the debate with my have been pointed out such numerous ways in which leftism is both evil and wrong.
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It is you and the rest of you self-deluded and Mar... (show quote)

Now that's hilarious. Bowling Green terrorists. Swedish terrorists. Crime rates. Pussy grabbing. Obama wiretapping. Alternative facts. The white grandma holding the "African-Americans for Trump" sign. Conjob explaining it by saying her brother is A-A! Terrorist attack in Atlanta. Lying about lies. Devious behavior. "I know more than the generals."
There is nothing decent about fascism. Racism is morally indefensible. Crony capitalism condones greed and rejects compassion. Corporatism steals from anyone they can steal from, then hides behind authoritarian state sanctioned thugs when called on it. "Less government" means arbitrary, even whimsical interpretation of law.
Seek help, before you transmogrify into a concentration camp guard.

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Mar 15, 2017 16:43:44   #
Carol Kelly
 
tri-states wrote:
Lock and load with hog fat lubed ammo,before it's too late!!!


My husband has been saying that for several years now. It's a relief to know he's not just one oddball. You're out there. True but just teasing you about the oddball.

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Mar 15, 2017 16:47:19   #
theotts
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
My husband has been saying that for several years now. It's a relief to know he's not just one oddball. You're out there. True but just teasing you about the oddball.


Your husband is a bloated and inflamed asshole.

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Mar 15, 2017 19:09:44   #
Steve700
 
theotts wrote:
Now that's hilarious. Bowling Green terrorists. Swedish terrorists. Crime rates. Pussy grabbing. Obama wiretapping. Alternative facts. The white grandma holding the "African-Americans for Trump" sign. Conjob explaining it by saying her brother is A-A! Terrorist attack in Atlanta. Lying about lies. Devious behavior. "I know more than the generals."
There is nothing decent about fascism. Racism is morally indefensible. Crony capitalism condones greed and rejects compassion. Corporatism steals from anyone they can steal from, then hides behind authoritarian state sanctioned thugs when called on it. "Less government" means arbitrary, even whimsical interpretation of law.
Seek help, before you transmogrify into a concentration camp guard.
Now that's hilarious. Bowling Green terrorists. Sw... (show quote)

Put "Muslims in Sweden" (or any other country of your choice) and the YouTube address bar and see visual evidence of the violence and chaos Muslims are wreaking all around the world before you start spewing bull shit out of your ass. I mean it, do that 'cuz you got no idea what you're talking about. Rapes are up 1500% in Sweden, there are 55 no go zones where even the police won't enter and they just leave the Muslims to their own affairs and they ARE rioting and did so again within 24 hours of when Trump said they were. Those are absolute facts and if you do as I told you, you will find YouTube validation for all that I have said. You are an idiot if you feel sure that Obama and/or his people didn't wiretap Trump's offices. You not understanding Obama and believing he would do that is extremely naïve. Besides that all communications are monitored in the US now and certain keywords get them set aside for being heard by humans. Whether Trumps have been picked out, set aside and turned over to Obama is the question beyond whether he made other monitoring arrangements. If your going to talk about authoritarian thugs you better look into the past Deadpool of suspicious deaths of Obama and the Clintons. There are hundreds between the two including Andrew Breitbart, Joan Rivers, three of Obama's gay lovers, his own grandmother and judge's Scolia (a near certainty) and Amb. Stevens and the three others. You obviously know nothing and don't even understand why I would say such a thing. Your statements about concentration guards is an absurdity because when those 800 FEMA camps come into use the guards will be all left these or at least take their orders from those on the left.

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Mar 15, 2017 19:27:32   #
theotts
 
Steve700 wrote:
Put "Muslims in Sweden" (or any other country of your choice) and the YouTube address bar and see visual evidence of the violence and chaos Muslims are wreaking all around the world before you start spewing bull shit out of your ass. I mean it, do that 'cuz you got no idea what you're talking about. Rapes are up 1500% in Sweden, there are 55 no go zones where even the police won't enter and they just leave the Muslims to their own affairs and they ARE rioting and did so again within 24 hours of when Trump said they were. Those are absolute facts and if you do as I told you, you will find YouTube validation for all that I have said. You are an idiot if you feel sure that Obama and/or his people didn't wiretap Trump's offices. You not understanding Obama and believing he would do that is extremely naïve. Besides that all communications are monitored in the US now and certain keywords get them set aside for being heard by humans. Whether Trumps have been picked out, set aside and turned over to Obama is the question beyond whether he made other monitoring arrangements. If your going to talk about authoritarian thugs you better look into the past Deadpool of suspicious deaths of Obama and the Clintons. There are hundreds between the two including Andrew Breitbart, Joan Rivers, three of Obama's gay lovers, his own grandmother and judge's Scolia (a near certainty) and Amb. Stevens and the three others. You obviously know nothing and don't even understand why I would say such a thing. Your statements about concentration guards is an absurdity because when those 800 FEMA camps come into use the guards will be all left these or at least take their orders from those on the left.
Put "Muslims in Sweden" (or any other co... (show quote)


Was there a terrorist attack, as the Orange Menace said? No. So cut the bs.
The rest of your ravings even you know to be lies. Or, if you don't, you shouldn't be trusted to drive. Or feed yourself. Eat my shorts.

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Mar 15, 2017 19:45:08   #
Steve700
 
slatten49 wrote:
Steve700, I don't believe you capable of grasping the truth. You had been previously notified of your error in printing this bogus email claim of the eight levels of Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals. Why do you continue to repeat your errors/lies? Have you no shame? Read the following for a correction of your assertions...

Your above list of steps for “How to create a social state” is not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, nor does it even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about “controlling health care” is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of “increasing the poverty level as high as possible” is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve). This list is simply a modern variant of the decades-old, apocryphal Communist Rules for Revolution piece that was originally passed along without attribution until Alinsky’s name became attached to it (presumably because someone out there thought it sounded like something Alinsky might have written).

The closest analog (in form, if not in content) to your above-reproduced list of “How to create a social state” to be found in the writings of Saul Alinsky is the following list of “power tactics” Alinsky outlined in his 1971 book Rules for Radicals. Note that Alinsky’s list is devoted solely to tactics (i.e., methods for accomplishing goals) and does not specify any particular targets of those tactics (e.g., health care, religion, gun control):

Always remember the first rule of power tactics: Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

The second rule is: Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

The sixth rule is: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.

The seventh rule: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.

The eighth rule: Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

The ninth rule: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

The tenth rule: The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counter-side; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.

The twelfth rule: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. You cannot risk being trapped by the enemy in his sudden agreement with your demand and saying “You’re right — we don’t know what to do about this issue. Now you tell us.”

The thirteenth rule: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

BTW, Steve700, Will Rogers died in 1935. From previous postings by you, I would not have guessed you to be well over ninety years of age!
Steve700, I don't believe you capable of grasping ... (show quote)

As far as Will Rogers goes, his having died 30 years earlier than I thought was likely the case only strengthens the point I was making. His old home is a famous tourist site in the woods just a few miles from me between Santa Monica and Pacific Palisades. As for Saul Alinsky you are getting his rules mixed up with his objectives labeled as levels of control. All those things in what I put up are his objectives to be accomplished. I read his book Rules For Radicals years ago when it was available online, but I don't think it is anymore. You can't tell me shit about it because he, like the Communists and the Democratic Party want to destroy the system (traditional America) in order to bring about a Marxist system and and to try and accomplish that is absolutely despicable to a loyal American who loves his country. Alinsky is considered the father of community organizing and Obama was a community organizer and a community organizer is a Communist by nature. When Alinsky says 'rules for radicals' he is talking about communist radicals and communist radicals want to bring this country down and your one of those crazy left-wing bastard that think you can build a better system with your Marxism. And by the way your mother is ugly and so is your wife. And I don't care if you have a bunch of friends that think you're just dandy and love you to death 'cuz if what I said angers you until you blow a gasket I don't give a damn.





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Mar 15, 2017 19:51:55   #
Steve700
 
theotts wrote:
Was there a terrorist attack, as the Orange Menace said? No. So cut the bs.
The rest of your ravings even you know to be lies. Or, if you don't, you shouldn't be trusted to drive. Or feed yourself. Eat my shorts.

No, not a terrorist attack; riots with violence and the burning of cars. Muslims riots more often than they do terrorist acts but guns and gunpowder aren't so easy to get a hold of in European countries like they are in the Mideast. I don't lie and am always saying truth must come first, last and always. Now do what I told you and put Muslims in Sweden in your YouTube address bar so you don't walk around so ignorant, with your mean-spirited bull shit accusations and talking out of your ass.

And the crime rates are way up all through Europe due to the Muslims and now especially with all the Muslim integration. Of course that's a real problem because people don't want to hire them because they won't assimilate and are trouble, so they are overburdening the welfare system. And do you know as I said the rates are up 1500% and that's a fact but the crazy leftist politicians in Sweden have made at the law that you cannot record the nationality or religion of the perpetrators so although it's obvious who the rapists are, statistically it cannot be held against the Muslims. That's how fucking stupid you Left Wing excuse for people are. And of course they've also made it against the law to speak ill of Islam which means telling the truth about Islam. That is stupid beyond belief to anyone with a sound mind but apparently that is only the people of the right.

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Mar 15, 2017 19:57:29   #
theotts
 
Steve700 wrote:
No, not a terrorist attack; riots with violence and the burning of cars. Muslims riots more often than they do terrorist acts but guns and gunpowder aren't so easy to get a hold of in European countries like they are in the Mideast. I don't lie and am always saying truth must come first, last and always. Now do what I told you and put Muslims in Sweden in your YouTube address bar so you don't walk around so ignorant, with your mean-spirited bull shit accusations and talking out of your ass.


No attack=another Trumkopf lie.
Not that I bothered to check, but I'm willing to bet a bunch that your Sweden story is hysterical exaggeration wrapped up in pure fantasy.
When you were born, the doctor slapped your mother. Liar.

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Mar 15, 2017 20:09:16   #
Steve700
 
theotts wrote:
No attack=another Trumkopf lie.
Not that I bothered to check, but I'm willing to bet a bunch that your Sweden story is hysterical exaggeration wrapped up in pure fantasy.
When you were born, the doctor slapped your mother. Liar.

I'm asking you to please bother to check. Put Muslims in Sweden in the YouTube address bar and click it. You will find very many videos on it where you can see for yourself that what I am telling you is no exaggeration. Why do you damn liberals refuse to look at the information and then make false accusations all the time. Where is your integrity man??? You are just displaying your self as a degenerate lowlife. Everything I am telling you is 100% true --- now see for yourself. All those videos are quite interesting and they won't bore you you always to yourself to know what the hell is going on instead of assuming the left wing position is accurate even knowing your people get their information from Muslims who not only have a vested interest in lying to you but to lie to you in order to advance and protect Islam is part of Islamic theology.

No, not a terrorist attack; riots with violence and the burning of cars. Muslims riots more often than they do terrorist acts but guns and gunpowder aren't so easy to get a hold of in European countries like they are in the Mideast. I don't lie and am always saying truth must come first, last and always. Now do what I told you and put Muslims in Sweden in your YouTube address bar so you don't walk around so ignorant, with your mean-spirited bull shit accusations and talking out of your ass.

And the crime rates are way up all through Europe due to the Muslims and now especially with all the Muslim integration. Of course that's a real problem because people don't want to hire them because they won't assimilate and are trouble, so they are overburdening the welfare system. And do you know as I said the rates are up 1500% and that's a fact but the crazy leftist politicians in Sweden have made at the law that you cannot record the nationality or religion of the perpetrators so although it's obvious who the rapists are, statistically it cannot be held against the Muslims. That's how fucking stupid you Left Wing excuse for people are. And of course they've also made it against the law to speak ill of Islam which means telling the truth about Islam. That is stupid beyond belief to anyone with a sound mind but apparently that is only the people of the right. Now go and put Muslims in Sweden in your YouTube address bar 'cuz I'm just about ready to start calling you a son of a bitch for your undeserved slander. I've given you no exaggeration, no fantasy.

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Mar 15, 2017 20:20:48   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Steve700 wrote:
As far as Will Rogers goes, his having died 30 years earlier than I thought was likely the case only strengthens the point I was making. His old home is a famous tourist site in the woods just a few miles from me between Santa Monica and Pacific Palisades. As for Saul Alinsky you are getting his rules mixed up with his objectives labeled as levels of control. All those things in what I put up are his objectives to be accomplished. I read his book Rules For Radicals years ago when it was available online, but I don't think it is anymore. You can't tell me shit about it because he, like the Communists and the Democratic Party want to destroy the system (traditional America) in order to bring about a Marxist system and and to try and accomplish that is absolutely despicable to a loyal American who loves his country. Alinsky is considered the father of community organizing and Obama was a community organizer and a community organizer is a Communist by nature. When Alinsky says 'rules for radicals' he is talking about communist radicals and communist radicals want to bring this country down and your one of those crazy left-wing bastard that think you can build a better system with your Marxism. And by the way your mother is ugly and so is your wife. And I don't care if you have a bunch of friends that think you're just dandy and love you to death 'cuz if what I said angers you until you blow a gasket I don't give a damn.
As far as Will Rogers goes, his having died 30 yea... (show quote)

Now that I have brought it to everyone's attention that it is you who remains confused...not only with regards to Will Rogers, but also as to your repeatedly-corrected confusion in distinguishing between Alinsky's alleged rules and objectives, one could only presume your postings as being prime examples of the famous quote attributed to Joseph Goebbels... "If you tell the same lie enough times, people will believe it; and the bigger the lie, the better."

Well, Steve, you may continue with all the lies and half truths you want. It only reminds me of something I read that speaks volumes as to your lack of validity and relevance, 'How easy it is for you to be undoubtedly full of information, yet fully deprived of accurate information?'

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Mar 15, 2017 20:51:32   #
theotts
 
slatten49 wrote:
Now that I have brought it to everyone's attention that it is you who remains confused...not only with regards to Will Rogers, but also as to your repeatedly-corrected confusion in distinguishing between Alinsky's alleged rules and objectives, one could only presume your postings as being prime examples of the famous quote attributed to Joseph Goebbels... "If you tell the same lie enough times, people will believe it; and the bigger the lie, the better."

Well, Steve, you may continue with all the lies and half truths you want. It only reminds me of something I read that speaks volumes as to your lack of validity and relevance, 'How easy it is for you to be undoubtedly full of information, yet fully deprived of accurate information.'
Now that I have brought it to everyone's attention... (show quote)


I neither know nor care about Alinsky. As to veracity, your hysteria about denouncing what I say means only that your ignorance and your hubris are in contention.
My information is from universities and is in the reference works I have edited. It is from research done with scrupulous attention to detail, and state of the art in my field. You scum couldn't read it, much less understand it. So you can jump up and down and gibber like a chimp about your fantasy world. Everyone with an IQ above room temperature laughs at you.
The Will Rogers quote is accurate. He also said he never met a man he didn't like. Clearly he never met you.
Take a week or two to figure out what that means, then stick your dick in a blender, asshole.

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