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Mar 9, 2017 11:22:15   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Doc110 wrote:
03/04/2017 Is Obama the First U.S. President Ever to Try to Topple His Successor?

George Washington
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-04/obama-first-us-president-ever-try-topple-his-successor

This post won't debate whether Trump or Obama are good or bad guys. 

It will simply ask a historical question ...

The Daily Mail claims:

Barack Obama's close confidante Valerie Jarrett has moved into his new DC home, which is now the nerve center for their plan to mastermind the insurgency against President Trump
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4271412/Obama-confidante-Valerie-Jarrett-moves-Kaloroma-home.html

Barack Obama is turning his new home in the posh Kalorama section of the nation’s capital – just two miles away from the White House – into the nerve center of the mounting insurgency against his successor, President Donald J. Trump.
 
Obama’s goal, according to a close family friend, is to oust Trump from the presidency either by forcing his resignation or through his impeachment.

And Obama is being aided in his political crusade by his longtime consigliere, Valerie Jarrett, who has moved into the 8,200-square-foot, $5.3-million Kaloroma mansion with  the former president and Michelle Obama, long time best friends.
 
According to the family source, Obama was at first reluctant to assume the role of leader of the opposition.
 
‘No longer the most powerful man in the world, he was just observing Trump and not liking what he saw,’ said the source.

‘He was weary and burned out after eight years in office.

But Valerie convinced him that he didn’t have any choice if he wanted to save his legacy.

And, as usual, he bowed to Valerie’s political wisdom and advice.’
 
‘He had hoped to write his memoirs, golf to his heart’s content.

And bask in the glory of his eight years in power and the progressive achievements he brought about.

Instead, he is going to be leading the fight and strategy to topple Trump.’ says the insider.
 
If true, would this be the first time in U.S. history that a former president has tried to topple his successor?
03/04/2017 Is Obama the First U.S. President Ever ... (show quote)


Those Moslems need to be tried for treason, and now sedition.
Are those Moslems building a wall around the new DC compound?

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Mar 9, 2017 11:22:56   #
HedgeHog
 
saltwind78 wrote:
Doc, You take Trump's words too seriously. There is no evidence that Obama tried to topple anybody. If you remember, it was the liar, Trump that claimed that Obama tried to tap his phone, IT NEVER HAPPENED. The problem is that Trump lies about everything, all the time! How can anybody take him at his word? I wouldn't ask him for the time of day.


Links?

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Mar 9, 2017 11:36:04   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
saltwind78 wrote:
Doc, You take Trump's words too seriously. There is no evidence that Obama tried to topple anybody. If you remember, it was the liar, Trump that claimed that Obama tried to tap his phone, IT NEVER HAPPENED. The problem is that Trump lies about everything, all the time! How can anybody take him at his word? I wouldn't ask him for the time of day.


The problem is that if Trump said "Good Morning" as a greeting to you, it would cause you to complain that Trump was lying again. I don't understand all this indignation, when for the last eight years the president lied incessantly and it did not cause one bit of consternation on your part. Your presidential candidate was celebrated for being a notorious, publicly exposed, liar and she remained true to that characterization under the spotlight of the election process. No complaints about her either.

Is it Trump's Orange hair you don't like?

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Mar 9, 2017 11:38:30   #
HedgeHog
 
pafret wrote:
The problem is that if Trump said "Good Morning" as a greeting to you, it would cause you to complain that Trump was lying again. I don't understand all this indignation, when for the last eight years the president lied incessantly and it did not cause one bit of consternation on your part. Your presidential candidate was celebrated for being a notorious, publicly exposed, liar and she remained true to that characterization under the spotlight of the election process. No complaints about her either.

Is it Trump's Orange hair you don't like?
The problem is that if Trump said "Good Morni... (show quote)


But Ovomit was black; how could he lie?

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Mar 9, 2017 11:40:17   #
Big Bass
 
Progressive One wrote:
Not at all....Trump will be a gift to the left.........wait and see...........


Too late! Gitmo is ready to receive all your "heroes."

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Mar 9, 2017 11:43:16   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
HedgeHog wrote:
But Ovomit was black; how could he lie?


True, blackness does excuse prevarication as well as incompetence. Just part of the reparations owed.

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Mar 9, 2017 11:46:06   #
HedgeHog
 
pafret wrote:
True, blackness does excuse prevarication as well as incompetence. Just part of the reparations owed.


That 150 year old grudge interferes with a lot of their rational thought processes.

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Mar 9, 2017 13:07:57   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Those Moslems need to be tried for treason, and now sedition.
Are those Moslems building a wall around the new DC compound?


If you hadn't said this I was going to!

That "home" better be under constant surveillance too... Every one of we American patriots should make it a "place" to visit too..

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Mar 9, 2017 18:20:33   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Obama thinks that he's still in charge, and maybe he would have been had any other republican won, and certainly obama would be in charge if illiar had won. Obama has allies in every branch of government, the results of 29 years of the global left impenetrating the government. Trump is exposing them like walking through a vampire colony with a cross.
They are shrieking in pain over their loss of power. Trump is draining the swamp that most Americans didn't know was there. Obama is the first that has to go. And Trump is in the position to do it.

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Mar 9, 2017 22:43:53   #
lamont
 
I think your liberalism is beginning to affect you mind. Maybe it's that (LMD) liberal mental disease.

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Mar 9, 2017 22:53:27   #
Mikeyavelli
 
The election of Trump could cause turmoil of the magnitude of the civil war.
America has been infiltrated by the leftist global cabal. Trump refers to this as the swamp.
Obama is the plug, pull him and the swamp drains quickly.

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Mar 9, 2017 23:17:17   #
Harpooner1
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
The election of Trump could cause turmoil of the magnitude of the civil war.
America has been infiltrated by the leftist global cabal. Trump refers to this as the swamp.
Obama is the plug, pull him and the swamp drains quickly.


What we are all seeing is the result of the Obama administrations 8 year reign. Here is the breakdown......
They all expected Hillary to win handily......If Hillary had won, same old corrupt DOJ, same old Democrat politics, and everything is swept under the rug. People keep their jobs and it's business as usual.
Now, it's not so easy for them. But, one thing is sure, Democrats love to confuse and lie. It is their way....But this time, they are getting caught up in their own crap and they have to lash out.
The media is right along with them...still.
Obama is such a shallow person, he NEEDS a legacy. Even though he already has one....A legacy of bad ideas and failure.
Trump's presidency is showing the big difference between someone who shows up for work and one that mails it in.
Trump is serious......Obama was surprised.
Now, in order to cement any positive legacy, Obama must make it as hard as possible for Trump to succeed. This is how sick Obama and the Democrats are. So they have had eight years of executive control, and a flaccid Republican party. Obama knew he would never be impeached...First of all, he was the first "Black" President.....And he took out an insurance policy....Joe Biden.
There was no way.....Even though it was warranted ten times over.

So, surprise! Donald Trump wins the Presidency......Not only that, but has the House, the Senate and governorships and legislatures across the country. All lost under Obama......That is his legacy.

The holdovers left from Obama are doing some damage....It will take time to get the rats out, but what it does is slow Trump down. That's what they want...slow him down.

Trump will counter. It may look ugly for a while......But, this is what Democrats do....Ugly. They do it well, I must say.

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Mar 10, 2017 00:56:34   #
HedgeHog
 
Harpooner1 wrote:
What we are all seeing is the result of the Obama administrations 8 year reign. Here is the breakdown......
They all expected Hillary to win handily......If Hillary had won, same old corrupt DOJ, same old Democrat politics, and everything is swept under the rug. People keep their jobs and it's business as usual.
Now, it's not so easy for them. But, one thing is sure, Democrats love to confuse and lie. It is their way....But this time, they are getting caught up in their own crap and they have to lash out.
The media is right along with them...still.
Obama is such a shallow person, he NEEDS a legacy. Even though he already has one....A legacy of bad ideas and failure.
Trump's presidency is showing the big difference between someone who shows up for work and one that mails it in.
Trump is serious......Obama was surprised.
Now, in order to cement any positive legacy, Obama must make it as hard as possible for Trump to succeed. This is how sick Obama and the Democrats are. So they have had eight years of executive control, and a flaccid Republican party. Obama knew he would never be impeached...First of all, he was the first "Black" President.....And he took out an insurance policy....Joe Biden.
There was no way.....Even though it was warranted ten times over.

So, surprise! Donald Trump wins the Presidency......Not only that, but has the House, the Senate and governorships and legislatures across the country. All lost under Obama......That is his legacy.

The holdovers left from Obama are doing some damage....It will take time to get the rats out, but what it does is slow Trump down. That's what they want...slow him down.

Trump will counter. It may look ugly for a while......But, this is what Democrats do....Ugly. They do it well, I must say.
What we are all seeing is the result of the Obama ... (show quote)


Trump is a fighter. He is probably the only Republican, with all due respect to the other conservative candidates, that could take all that the Leftist/Liberals are handing him, and fight back, and win. He won't cave. That is another reason he is My choice.

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Mar 10, 2017 07:47:17   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
HedgeHog wrote:
Trump is a fighter. He is probably the only Republican, with all due respect to the other conservative candidates, that could take all that the Leftist/Liberals are handing him, and fight back, and win. He won't cave. That is another reason he is My choice.


For the whole story on what Trump has been up against!!
WHO Signed Off on Wiretapping Trump.
https://www.teaparty.org/attorney-general-lynch-signed-off-fisa-applications-wiretap-trump-222669/?fb_action_ids=1114540731991329&fb_action_types=og.comments

(Gateway Pundit) – The FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance) Court is in the news this weekend after President Trump tweeted that former President Obama had petitioned a court twice in order to wire tap current President Trump when he was running for office.

Finally, another very disturbing fact about the wire tapping request of President Trump is that the FISA Court turned down President Obama’s Administration’s first request to wire tap President Trump that was evidently signed off on by Attorney General Lynch. With only two applications denied out of 10,700 from 2009 through 2015, the fact that the Obama Administration’s application was denied by the FISA Court is very disturbing. The odds of this happening were 0.02%.
The Obama Presidency is now arguably the most corrupt in US history.
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/draft-report-attorney-general-lynch-signed-off-on-fisa-applications-to-wiretap-president-trump/

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Mar 10, 2017 08:57:33   #
saltwind78
 
Doc, I never read so much BS in all the time I've posted on OPP. Obama probably isn't very involved in national politics right now. I have no doubt that he is trying to make up lost time with his family. I know I would. You may be interested in knowing that many past Presidents have tried to undo everything that the previous President did, starting with Jefferson.
Personally, I believe that after the Donald leaves office, everything he did will have to be redone from his policy on global warming to replacing the ACA. What an ignorant, narcissistic liar. How can anybody believe a word he says?
Doc110 wrote:
03/04/2017 Is Obama the First U.S. President Ever to Try to Topple His Successor?

George Washington
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-04/obama-first-us-president-ever-try-topple-his-successor

This post won't debate whether Trump or Obama are good or bad guys. 

It will simply ask a historical question ...

The Daily Mail claims:

Barack Obama's close confidante Valerie Jarrett has moved into his new DC home, which is now the nerve center for their plan to mastermind the insurgency against President Trump
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4271412/Obama-confidante-Valerie-Jarrett-moves-Kaloroma-home.html

Barack Obama is turning his new home in the posh Kalorama section of the nation’s capital – just two miles away from the White House – into the nerve center of the mounting insurgency against his successor, President Donald J. Trump.
 
Obama’s goal, according to a close family friend, is to oust Trump from the presidency either by forcing his resignation or through his impeachment.

And Obama is being aided in his political crusade by his longtime consigliere, Valerie Jarrett, who has moved into the 8,200-square-foot, $5.3-million Kaloroma mansion with  the former president and Michelle Obama, long time best friends.
 
According to the family source, Obama was at first reluctant to assume the role of leader of the opposition.
 
‘No longer the most powerful man in the world, he was just observing Trump and not liking what he saw,’ said the source.

‘He was weary and burned out after eight years in office.

But Valerie convinced him that he didn’t have any choice if he wanted to save his legacy.

And, as usual, he bowed to Valerie’s political wisdom and advice.’
 
‘He had hoped to write his memoirs, golf to his heart’s content.

And bask in the glory of his eight years in power and the progressive achievements he brought about.

Instead, he is going to be leading the fight and strategy to topple Trump.’ says the insider.
 
If true, would this be the first time in U.S. history that a former president has tried to topple his successor?
03/04/2017 Is Obama the First U.S. President Ever ... (show quote)

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