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Introduction: Ruby Ridge
Mar 8, 2017 20:28:33   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Introduction: Ruby Ridge
http://republicbroadcasting.org/columnists/introduction-ruby-ridge/

Randy and Vicki Weaver’s story begins in Iowa during the farm crisis of the late 1970s. Spurred by economic insecurity and an apocalyptic religious vision, Weaver, a former Green Beret, moved his family to a remote area of Northern Idaho, 50 miles from the Canadian border. On a mountaintop they called ”Ruby Ridge,” the Weavers built the sanctuary they were seeking — a cabin with no electricity, running water or indoor plumbing. There, they could grow their own food, home school their children and escape what they viewed as a corrupt country run by a godless federal government.

Seeking fellowship, the Weavers began attending the annual summer congresses of the Aryan Nations, a white supremacist organization 60 miles away in Hayden Lakes, Idaho. Unbeknownst to the Weavers, federal law enforcement had the Aryan Nations under surveillance after a radical offshoot of the group, led by Robert Mathews, had engaged in a slew of crimes including the murder of Alan Berg, a Jewish talk show host in Denver. While attending an Aryan Nations congress, Randy Weaver was approached and befriended by an informant of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. In a classic sting operation, the informant offered to pay Weaver to saw the barrels off two shotguns. Short of money, Weaver agreed.

In June 1990, federal agents offered Weaver a deal: cooperate with the government as an informant or face arrest on gun charges. Weaver was also told, mistakenly, that if he lost his case in court, he’d lose his home. His hatred of the federal government now fully galvanized, Weaver refused the deal and subsequently failed to show up for his court hearing. He retreated to his cabin, which had been made ready for a long siege with stocks of food, water and ammunition.

For more than a year, the U.S. Marshals Service tried to wait Weaver out. But in the spring of 1992, they decided to press the situation, installing surveillance cameras around the Weavers’ cabin. Video footage of the family showed that they were nearly always armed, including the children.

On the morning of August 21, 1992, six marshals headed up the mountain to gather additional intelligence. When the Weavers’ dog began barking, Randy, his son Sam and family friend Kevin Harris decided to investigate, accidentally crossing paths with the marshals. Shots were fired, and 14-year-old Sam Weaver and Marshal William Degan were killed.
With a dead federal agent, jurisdiction over the case now passed to the FBI, which went into full gear. Believing they were deploying into an ongoing firefight, the FBI’s elite Hostage Rescue Team brought in military-style equipment, surrounded the house with snipers and issued rules of engagement allowing them to fire on any armed adult without warning.

News of the standoff soon spread. A roadblock was set up a mile away from the cabin where friends and supporters of the Weavers gathered, along with white supremacists and the national media. The next day, when Randy Weaver stepped out of the cabin, he was shot and wounded by snipers. Seconds later, while standing in the doorway of her home holding her infant daughter, Vicki Weaver was killed, the bullet passing through her body and into Kevin Harris.

For days the family remained in the cabin. Sara Weaver, the 16-year-old daughter of Randy and Vicki, became the de facto matriarch. ”We didn’t trust anybody for any kind of help, for anything,” she said. ”We didn’t feel at that point very confident that we were going to be allowed to share our side of the story. We weren’t even confident we were going to make it out alive.”

The siege continued for more than a week until Bo Gritz, a former Green Beret and hero of the radical right, showed up and offered his services as a third-party negotiator. Desperate to end the standoff, the FBI accepted. Gritz successfully coaxed Kevin Harris out of the cabin to get medical care, and after removing Vicki’s body, convinced Randy to come out with the children. The standoff was over, but Ruby Ridge had already become a lightning rod for the modern American militia movement.

On April 22, 1993, Kevin Harris and Randy Weaver went on trial for first-degree murder in the death of U.S. Marshal William Degan. After the longest deliberations in Idaho history, both Weaver and Harris were acquitted.

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Mar 8, 2017 23:48:46   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
Met Randy at a gun show here in MN when he was promoting his book. Very nice guy, still have the signed copy. Clearly the Fed overstepping the boundaries here and a horrible outcome. I believe it was the bitch Reno in charge. She should've hung for murder, no excuses for what happened, period.

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Mar 9, 2017 07:17:35   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
2wheeljunkie wrote:
Met Randy at a gun show here in MN when he was promoting his book. Very nice guy, still have the signed copy. Clearly the Fed overstepping the boundaries here and a horrible outcome. I believe it was the bitch Reno in charge. She should've hung for murder, no excuses for what happened, period.


Ron Horiguchi (Spelling?) The FBI sniper that shot the mother, was at the Waco massacre also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNvG6mhlj7g

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Mar 9, 2017 08:18:42   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Ron Horiguchi (Spelling?) The FBI sniper that shot the mother, was at the Waco massacre also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNvG6mhlj7g


Didn't know that, not shocking tho.

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Mar 9, 2017 11:44:55   #
saltwind78
 
eagleye, I don't see what all the fuss is about. An American nazi refused to follow directions from the FBI and other law enforcement agencies. He opened fire on law enforcement officers with no regard for his family. People died in the fire fight. What did he expect? When a cop gives a lawful order, I follow it. I have respect for the badge!
eagleye13 wrote:
Introduction: Ruby Ridge
http://republicbroadcasting.org/columnists/introduction-ruby-ridge/

Randy and Vicki Weaver’s story begins in Iowa during the farm crisis of the late 1970s. Spurred by economic insecurity and an apocalyptic religious vision, Weaver, a former Green Beret, moved his family to a remote area of Northern Idaho, 50 miles from the Canadian border. On a mountaintop they called ”Ruby Ridge,” the Weavers built the sanctuary they were seeking — a cabin with no electricity, running water or indoor plumbing. There, they could grow their own food, home school their children and escape what they viewed as a corrupt country run by a godless federal government.

Seeking fellowship, the Weavers began attending the annual summer congresses of the Aryan Nations, a white supremacist organization 60 miles away in Hayden Lakes, Idaho. Unbeknownst to the Weavers, federal law enforcement had the Aryan Nations under surveillance after a radical offshoot of the group, led by Robert Mathews, had engaged in a slew of crimes including the murder of Alan Berg, a Jewish talk show host in Denver. While attending an Aryan Nations congress, Randy Weaver was approached and befriended by an informant of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. In a classic sting operation, the informant offered to pay Weaver to saw the barrels off two shotguns. Short of money, Weaver agreed.

In June 1990, federal agents offered Weaver a deal: cooperate with the government as an informant or face arrest on gun charges. Weaver was also told, mistakenly, that if he lost his case in court, he’d lose his home. His hatred of the federal government now fully galvanized, Weaver refused the deal and subsequently failed to show up for his court hearing. He retreated to his cabin, which had been made ready for a long siege with stocks of food, water and ammunition.

For more than a year, the U.S. Marshals Service tried to wait Weaver out. But in the spring of 1992, they decided to press the situation, installing surveillance cameras around the Weavers’ cabin. Video footage of the family showed that they were nearly always armed, including the children.

On the morning of August 21, 1992, six marshals headed up the mountain to gather additional intelligence. When the Weavers’ dog began barking, Randy, his son Sam and family friend Kevin Harris decided to investigate, accidentally crossing paths with the marshals. Shots were fired, and 14-year-old Sam Weaver and Marshal William Degan were killed.
With a dead federal agent, jurisdiction over the case now passed to the FBI, which went into full gear. Believing they were deploying into an ongoing firefight, the FBI’s elite Hostage Rescue Team brought in military-style equipment, surrounded the house with snipers and issued rules of engagement allowing them to fire on any armed adult without warning.

News of the standoff soon spread. A roadblock was set up a mile away from the cabin where friends and supporters of the Weavers gathered, along with white supremacists and the national media. The next day, when Randy Weaver stepped out of the cabin, he was shot and wounded by snipers. Seconds later, while standing in the doorway of her home holding her infant daughter, Vicki Weaver was killed, the bullet passing through her body and into Kevin Harris.

For days the family remained in the cabin. Sara Weaver, the 16-year-old daughter of Randy and Vicki, became the de facto matriarch. ”We didn’t trust anybody for any kind of help, for anything,” she said. ”We didn’t feel at that point very confident that we were going to be allowed to share our side of the story. We weren’t even confident we were going to make it out alive.”

The siege continued for more than a week until Bo Gritz, a former Green Beret and hero of the radical right, showed up and offered his services as a third-party negotiator. Desperate to end the standoff, the FBI accepted. Gritz successfully coaxed Kevin Harris out of the cabin to get medical care, and after removing Vicki’s body, convinced Randy to come out with the children. The standoff was over, but Ruby Ridge had already become a lightning rod for the modern American militia movement.

On April 22, 1993, Kevin Harris and Randy Weaver went on trial for first-degree murder in the death of U.S. Marshal William Degan. After the longest deliberations in Idaho history, both Weaver and Harris were acquitted.
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Mar 9, 2017 14:34:31   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
saltwind78 wrote:
eagleye, I don't see what all the fuss is about. An American nazi refused to follow directions from the FBI and other law enforcement agencies. He opened fire on law enforcement officers with no regard for his family. People died in the fire fight. What did he expect? When a cop gives a lawful order, I follow it. I have respect for the badge!


You really are a scum bag, Saltwind. You just showed that you have no idea what happened at Ruby Ridge or Waco. You are talking out of your constipated ass.

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Mar 9, 2017 15:45:48   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
eagleye13 wrote:
You really are a scum bag, Saltwind. You just showed that you have no idea what happened at Ruby Ridge or Waco. You are talking out of your constipated ass.


Agree with eagleeye, after to talking to Randy there is much more to the story than appears.

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Mar 9, 2017 17:24:17   #
saltwind78
 
eagleye, I guess your mama never washed out your filthy nazi mouth with some good old soap and water! I love to read about nazis getting killed by the FBI. Maybe you will be the next nazi to get squashed!!
eagleye13 wrote:
You really are a scum bag, Saltwind. You just showed that you have no idea what happened at Ruby Ridge or Waco. You are talking out of your constipated ass.

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Mar 10, 2017 08:02:01   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
saltwind78 wrote:
eagleye, I guess your mama never washed out your filthy nazi mouth with some good old soap and water! I love to read about nazis getting killed by the FBI. Maybe you will be the next nazi to get squashed!!


Time to sprinkle some salt on saltwinds tail (a refresher)

Well saltwind78; here you go again. The pot calling the kettle black. To much time wasted covering the same BS. (so this will be saved)
This is how insincere posters waste others time and mislead.
salty states - "One of your many problems is that you paint people all good or all bad, according to your own beliefs."
Nope; it is about Political Zionism, and those that blindly support it, (PZ's). That includes Christians.

Then salty concludes with this gem - "You really need help to deal with your paranoia."

Salty will ignore this again; but just maybe others will give thought to the following. It is unlikely that Salty will refute any specifics here:

Are Political Zionists and the dupes of the Bilderberger NOW agenda a bigger problem?
In order to fight an enemy effectively; you must know who the enemy is.
The Network Media claims that Muslims and their sharia law (which is terrible) is a BIG threat; BUT
How is it, that “Main Stream Media” (MSM) ignores who has infiltrated our government and bought our politicians?
Who has any idea of who owns the (MSM)? Network TV, newspapers, etc.
Who has any idea of who has control of “public” education? (common core, text book publishers, NEA, Etc.)
Who has any idea of who has control of US foreign policy? The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has vetted politicians in both parties for decades). Google: CFR,TC,Bilderberg
Who has any idea of who has control of our economy? The private Federal Reserve Banks
Who has any idea of who is financially enslaving the world, with their usury? Including the USA’s ($19 trillion debt), via THE FED, IMF, World Bank, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, etc.
How is it that MSM ignores that Political Zionism has been behind the emigrations for decades here in America, and probably Western Europe? (Diversity is good; has been the NWO propaganda)
Decades of /NeoCON/NWO/ /Bilderberger’s “Foreign Policy” has got America involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Libya, Egypt and ETC. The warmongers are still pushing for Ukraine, Syria and Iran. Our “Allies” have become “enemies” over and over and over! Most recent; the US armed the radical Sunnis (ISIS) in Syria to fight Assad’s Shiite government in Syria. Now the US is fighting the ISIS/Sunni/Al-Qaida slaughter going on in Iraq. The NeoCONs (ie. FOX, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and other CFR pundits), continue to push for attack of the Shiite governments in Syria and Iran.
According to the Talking Heads on network TV; All Shiite governments are our enemies. It just so happens, they do not have Rothschild banks, and are not in debt to them. Research who attacks who and find out why. Is Israel really our friend?
I can only hope some here take the time to read, research, think this through, and then copy and warn others.
A lot is at stake.
The 911 attack (Google: 911, Building 7 and You Tube it also) was the pretense for 14 years of all out wars. The Bilderberger’s NWO foreign policy is being pushed hard by their bought media. The NWO manipulators; funded and put ISIS etc. in the position it has attained. PZ; created, funded and armed, the Boogie Man!
The truth is attainable for anyone who gives a damn, and who takes some time to get to the truth. Americans are being set up for some really bad turmoil (martial law under Dept. of Homeland Security), and the Powers That Be will deliver their planned “solutions”


saltwind 78 wrote:
eagleeye, One of your many problems is that you paint people all good or all bad, according to your own beliefs. Just to straighten out the record, My uncle was not a neo -com. He died twenty years ago at the age of ninety six. He was a Republican because he was a straight as an arrow and a businessman. That is not the definition of a neo-com. No Zionist I know is just a Zionist. It in not the sole focus of their life. As an example, my uncle was first a family man. He emigrated to this country as a child. Went into the garment business like so many other Jewish immigrants, and made a success of himself the old fashioned way, he worked for it. He sent one of his children to law school and the other to medical school. He was a dedicated Zionist, and became the Treasure of the Zionist Organization of the America and the head of the Israel bonds sales. He had the absolute respect of everyone that knew him, Jew and gentile!! The last thing a person that happens to be a Zionist would do is join a political party to somehow gain control of that party to change it's view of Israel. Like everyone else, he was a Republican because he believed the Republican party best represented his views on a broad spectrum of issues.
You really need help to deal with your paranoia.


I know this is a lot to digest; but for those interested:
saltwind stated- "eagleye, I make it a practice never to read anything that comes from u-tube. As you know, anybody can post anything on u-tube" -
As opposed to the Zio MSM monopoly salty?
At least you tell everyone here how limited you are, in your research..
So a refresher is in order, that others may learn;
Pretty interesting
It goes into real depth of ancient history. Advanced civilizations.
IMO - Only one flaw I find is it skirts over the Assyrian captivity and migration of northern Israel ( The “lost” 10 tribes) when the moderator mentions the Nordic race.
Some really heavy stuff.

ANCIENT BLOOD CONSPIRACY » Stage2Omega
http://www.stage2omega.com/ancient-blood-conspiracy/
The apostles were to seek the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Joseph of Arimathea and Paul were two of them.
John 10:14
I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
The point is Western Europe was settled by the House of Joseph (the 10 tribes of the Northern kingdom) after the Assyrian captivity. They were the lost sheep of Israel; and understood and believed the news brought to them by the apostles.
This is something that most fundamental Christian churches ignore.
Hosea 1:10: "Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, [i.e., physical Israelites], 'Ye are not My people', [i.e., Christians are told by scoffers and disbelievers that they are not physical Israelites], there it shall be said unto them, 'Ye are the sons of the living El (God)'. These very same scoffers and disbelievers who deny the truth; that Anglo Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavians, and kindred peoples are physical Israelites.

saltwind 78 wrote:
payne, The Jews are not a race, they are far to diverse for that. There are Jews from Ethiopia that are African as they can be. The same goes for Jews from India and China.
Ashkenazim are certainly not a race. They are susceptible to many genetic disorders because they rarely had intermarriage with Christians which has been a taboo for centuries. Ashkenazim are for all purposes white people, but have blood from other European, Middle Eastern, Persian and west Asian peoples. We do not consider ourselves a race and have never thought in racial terms. The Old Testament forbids racism. Moses' sister, Miriam was struck with down with a terrible disease for objecting to Moses marrying a women of color. Exodus says that the people that left Egypt were a mixed multitude. We are what we are, a people with our oldest roots in the Middle East, mixed with many other peoples we came into contact with during the diaspora.
payne, The Jews are not a race, they are far to di... (show quote)

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