lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Larry, Larry, Larry, you really shouldn't confuse with facts, it's too unnerving to find a twist to it all when you do that...

Besides the election itself, primaries, debates etc clearly show what fake news does... They lie so much they even believe them, until the big dong comes down... Then it was fake absolute disbelief their polls could be so wrong....lololololol....

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Actually, the photo is not a hoax these people were burned alive. For those who are unaware, there has been an on-going "war" between Christians and muslims for over 7 years in Nigeria. At the same point that an accident that spilled gas and burned these people, there was a vicious "war" called the Jos riots in Nigeria where some 325 people were murdered and sadly the photo from the burned people was run with the news of the riot.

Here is a link to the story https://www.amigodecristo.com/2010/05/massacre-na-nigeria-mais-de-500-cristaos-assassinados-a-golpes-de-facao.html

Okay, here is a translation of the story:

Religious violence in the northern city of Jos has left more than 500 dead in recent days. Throughout the weekend, attacks by Fulani Muslims against pastors and Christian faithful in the region have awakened the country's worst ghosts. The exact number of victims is difficult to pin down.

The massacre took place less than two kilometers from the home of Plateau State Governor Jonah Jang. Journalists visiting the area say they have seen hundreds of corpses on the streets where Fulani attacks occurred.

Muslim Fulani Muslims, armed with revolvers, rifles, machine guns and machetes, raided the houses in the towns of Dogo Hauwa, Ratsat and Jeji, over the weekend, killing everyone they encountered, especially women and children.

One villager said that the attackers entered Dogo Nahawa with guns. "They started shooting up high wanting to drive people out of their homes. As they left, they were attacked with machetes, "he said.

Jos lies between the predominantly Muslim north of the country and the southern Christian regions. The Plateau administration has announced it will hold a mass funeral for the victims, while interim Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan is meeting with state security agencies. He said the military is on a red alert.

The army "While it is too early to explain why violence in the region has increased, we want to inform Nigerians that the security forces are committed to controlling the situation," Jonathan Niboro, a spokesman for the UN Security Council, said in a statement.

The killing occurred despite a curfew imposed in the region from 6 pm to 6 am after last January's violence in Jos.

The Plateau State Christian Elders Consultation Forum accused the military of being accomplices to the recent killings: "We told the military what was happening, but it took two hours to act when the Muslims were gone. We want the soldiers to explain the reasons for this intentional delay, which we consider part of a plan, and we want the Plateau State to know that we no longer trust Nigeria's army or security agencies because they are against Christians, "the organization said. In a statement.

The causes; Many believe that the cause of the clashes is the struggle to exploit areas of cultivation between Christians and animists on one side, and Muslim Fulani religious on the other. It is also speculated that it was the response of Muslim leaders to religious clashes in the region in January, which left 326 dead. They would consider the clashes an organized action to assassinate Muslims.

Police arrested 22 suspects, and Jos' spiritual leader, Gbong Gwom, who visited the areas of action, said that "the situation is sad, unacceptable and inhumane."

Conflicts involving Christian and Muslim protagonists in Nigeria have cost the lives of more than 12,000 people since 1999 when "Sharia", the Islamic law, was implanted in 12 northern states. (NM).

When you go to the link, the first thing you see is the photograph of the burned bodies with this story.

Here is a secondary link, not same story, but one by BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8482666.stm

So, you can see how the confusion happened. It was not someone making up fake news but combining two real stories that happened at the same time and the Nigeria news running the wrong photo with their story.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

My gosh, Penny, horrific it is and without cause other than being Christians.....

Monsters rule the area and the supposed military taking 2 hours to even show up sheds plenty of questions...How is it they didn't know about these Muslim fanatics, or, perhaps they did and chose to do nothing???

theotts

I am at home convalescing from the work of a drunk driver. Someone just like all the Trumpite troglodytes.
I find it very amusing when you do your Yosemite Sam bit. Much better than anything on TV.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Why would you equate your misfortune to President Trump??? He does not even drink...

I hope the drunk went to jail and you recover quickly...

pafret Loc: Northeast

F.Y.I.

The West's Real Bigotry: Rejecting Persecuted Christians
by Uzay Bulut
February 5, 2017 at 5:00 am
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9888/persecuted-christians

"Unfortunately, the West has rejected the idea of solidarity with the Christians of the Middle East, prioritizing diplomacy based on oil interests and the Arab-Israeli conflict. Thus, the United States, Britain, and France have largely ignored the persecutions of the Christians of Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt, and Sudan, while rushing to save the oil-rich Muslim states of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait..." — Hannibal Travis, Professor of Law, 2006.
Indigenous Christians in Iraq and Syria have not only been exposed to genocide at the hands of the Islamic State and other Islamist groups, but also their applications for immigration to Western countries have been put on the back-burner by, shamefully but not surprisingly, the UN.
When one brings up the issue of Western states taking in Muslim migrants from Syria and Iraq without vetting them for jihadist ties, while leaving behind the Christian and Yazidi victims of jihadists, one is accused of being "bigoted" or "racist". But the real bigotry is abandoning the persecuted and benign Middle Eastern Christians and Yazidis, the main victims of the ongoing genocides in Syria and Iraq.
The German government is also rejecting applications for asylum of Christian refugees and deporting them unfairly, according to a German pastor.
Nearly a third of the respondents said that most of the discrimination and violence came mostly from refugee camp guards of Muslim descent.
It is high time that not only the U.S. but all other Western governments finally saw that the Christians in the Middle East are them.
Finally, after years of apathy and inaction, Washington is extending a much-needed helping hand to Middle Eastern Christians. U.S. President Donald Trump recently announced that persecuted Christians will be given priority when it comes to applying for refugee status in the United States.
Christians and Yazidis are being exposed to genocide at the hands of ISIS and other Islamist groups, who have engaged in a massive campaign to enslave the remnant non-Muslim minorities and to destroy their cultural heritage.
The scholar Hannibal Travis wrote in 2006:
"Unfortunately, the West has rejected the idea of solidarity with the Christians of the Middle East, prioritizing diplomacy based on oil interests and the Arab-Israeli conflict. Thus, the United States, Britain, and France have largely ignored the persecutions of the Christians of Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt, and Sudan, while rushing to save the oil-rich Muslim states of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, as well as besieged minority Kurds, Bosnians, and Kosovars. To this day, American troops in Iraq reportedly do not always intervene against the persecution of Christians, perhaps not wanting to be seen as 'siding with the Christians' and thus provoke retaliation."
Then, the so-called liberals in the West -- and even Christians -- started pushing back against the move.
Indigenous Christians in Iraq and Syria have not only been exposed to genocide at the hands of the Islamic State (ISIS) and other Islamist groups but also their applications for immigration to Western countries have been put on the back burner by, shamefully but not surprisingly, the UN.
A group of Armenians from Iraq, for example, have fled their homes in Iraq after ISIS came. Instead they have gone to Yozgat, Turkey. The newspaper Agos ran a story about them on 21 December, 2015:
"They live in hard conditions. The UN could not schedule any appointment for immigration application before 2022. They don't know how they can live in these conditions for 7 years. The only thing they want is to meet with their relatives."
Yozgat, one of the Anatolian cities where Armenians were exposed to the most horrific murders and exile at the hands of Muslims during the 1915 genocide, is where Armenians find themselves again, this time struggling to survive in the midst of unemployment, poverty, harassment, intolerance, and illness.
Şant Garabedyan, 23, said that no jobs are given to Christians:
"I have been in Yozgat for two months. We are eight people in the same house.... Nobody hires me, because I am a Christian. My wife is Chaldean and doesn't wear her pectoral cross because she is afraid."
Alis Şalcıyan said that they left Iraq fearing ISIS.
"We have been here for a year. Back in Baghdad, we felt frightened, when ISIS came to Iraq.... Someone on the street saw my necklace and spat while looking into my eyes. After that, I took it off and kept it at home.... We filed an immigration application with the UN, but they scheduled an appointment for 2022, although they scheduled appointments for the next year for others. We must wait here for seven years."
Ğazar Setrakyan said that they left Baghdad the night ISIS came to the city: "When ISIS militants came to Baghdad, they wrote 'house of Christians' on our door. It was impossible to stay there. We left our home and three shops, and we ran away."
Lusin Sarkisyan said that her son, who had worked for Americans in Iraq, was targeted by ISIS. "One day, ISIS militants threatened my son saying that they would kill his family if he continues to work with Americans. We had to run away."
Sarkisyan added that the UN officials scheduled an appointment for an immigration application for 2018. "I do not know what we are going to do until then."
Even when European states take in Christian refugees, they fail to protect them from the attacks of Muslims in refugee housing facilities.
According to the findings of a survey from the Christian advocacy group Open Doors USA, refugees of Christian and Yazidi descent who fled persecution in places like Syria and Iraq keep facing other religiously motivated attacks in Germany.
Since February 2016, nearly 800 Christians and Yazidi refugees were attacked by others at the relief centers and camps, according to a report entitled, "Lack of protection for religious minorities in Germany" conducted from 15 February to 30 September, 2016.
"When questioned about the nature of the attacks, assault was named most often, followed by death threats, either directed directly at the Christian refugees or their family in Germany or in their home countries.
"44 people indicated that they had been victims of sexual assaults. Other forms of persecution include insults, general threats, and physical attacks that had not been defined as an assault. 11% of those questioned felt intimidated by loud music/prayers."
Representatives of the NGO Open Doors, along with other NGOs, held a press conference in May 2016 to present an earlier report: "Religiously Motivated Attacks on Christian Refugees in Germany."
According to the testimony of a male refugee from Iraq, he received death threats after Muslims saw that he was reading the Bible:
"They wanted me to convert back to Islam. The manager of the facility said that he is helpless and cannot protect me. As I feared for my life, I then reported it to a social worker who then wrote a report. The death threats increased. The interpreter tried to trivialize the threats and conceal them from the social welfare department. The department instructed the facility management to make more of an effort to ensure my safety. They were incapable of doing so and therefore I was moved into other accommodation."
"Muslims said," a refugee from Iran revealed, "that 'Islam allows us to spill your blood', 'Your breath and your clothes are impure'."
A female refugee from Iran stated:
"In the beginning they were all good to us. They then realized that I am a Christian. They took the dirty water they used to clean with and emptied it over us from the top floor.... I don't know what happened after that anymore. [...] To this day [17 days later] my statement has still not been recorded."
Yazidis, who are a persecuted and indigenous religious minority in the Middle East, are also exposed to assaults and discrimination, according to the report.
"Of the 10 Yezidi refugees three of them received death threats, two experienced sexual harassment and five suffered other forms of persecution; six reported that these occurrences took place numerous times. In three cases the perpetrators were fellow refugees and in three further cases the security staffs' relatives were the perpetrators. Five of the victims did not report anything because they deemed it useless."
Staff members in the refugee facilities are also involved in the discrimination. Nearly a third of the respondents said that most of the discrimination and violence came mostly from refugee-center guards of Muslim descent. According to the report:
"In the case of conflict, a large amount of the Muslim staff show their solidarity towards fellow Muslims, obstruct or trivialize the complaints. Interpreters influence the outcome of the asylum procedures in an unlawful way and sometimes they are even actively involved in the discrimination inside the facilities."
A Christian from Iran said: "I had a problem and reported it at the Info point again and again. There is someone there that always insults our mothers and sister. He said we are 'neciz' [impure]."
"The security service staff are all Arabs and they only help the Arabs," said a Christian from Eritrea. "Whenever somebody does something wrong in the accommodation, they say: 'It was the Christians' even if we had done nothing."
Only in the rarest cases would the aggrieved actually file a complaint (17% / 129 people) to the police, according to the report.
"If you include the reports and complaints presented to the facility management, then only 28% (213) sought the protection of the German authorities. 54% of those questioned (399) gave specific reasons for not filing any complaints: 48% of them were afraid, especially for fear of repeated attacks or that the situation would even get worse (36%). Other reasons were that there were no safe opportunities to contact or communicate with the police or the respective authorities because of language barriers (14%) and the impression that the report would be pointless anyhow."
In other European states -- including Austria, Switzerland, France, United Kingdom, Sweden, the Netherlands, Italy, Spain, and Greece -- Christian and Yazidi refugees are also exposed to attacks at the hands of refugees of Muslim descent.
The German government is also rejecting applications for asylum of Christian refugees and deporting them unfairly, according to a German pastor.
Dr. Gottfried Martens, a pastor at Trinity Lutheran Church in Berlin, reported that the German government is rejecting almost all applications for asylum from most of his church's Iranian and Afghan refugee members, who have waited years in Germany for the government to hear their cases, according to CBN News.
Melkite Greek Catholic archbishop of Aleppo, Jean-Clément Jeanbart, said in an interview:
"The egoism and the interests slavishly defended by your governments will in the end kill you, as well. Open your eyes. Didn't you see what happened recently in Paris?"
Apparently, they did not. They still seem to live in denial. According to the U.S. government figures, of the almost 11,000 Syrian refugees admitted to the United States in fiscal 2016, only 56 were Christian.
When one brings up the issue of Western states taking in Muslim migrants from Syria and Iraq without vetting them for jihadist ties, while leaving behind the Christian and Yazidi victims of jihadists, one is accused of being "bigoted" or "racist". But the real bigotry is abandoning the persecuted and benign Middle Eastern Christians and Yazidis, the main victims of the ongoing genocides in Syria and Iraq.
It is true that Shia Muslims and even some Sunni Muslims -- particularly secular, non-observant or moderate ones -- are also threatened by the Islamic State. But ISIS and other Islamist organizations are not trying to destroy Islam and Muslims. On the contrary, they aim to further institutionalize Islam and even expand Islamic influence to other lands and establish a Caliphate (Islamic empire) based on Islamic scriptures.
Helping religious minorities in the Muslim world is not just a humanitarian issue, but also a political issue of vital importance to the West. Some people might think that the U.S. or the West should not get engaged in Middle Eastern politics.
But if the West continues turning a blind eye to the Islamic radicalization of the Middle East and North Africa, what does it expect will happen to it?
As long as Islamists keep winning "victories" across nations and as long as Christians and other non-Muslims continue to be exterminated, Islamists will gain more power and courage to expand to Europe and other parts of the world.
Radical Islamic ideology never stops where it takes over. It is a genocidal, imperialistic and colonialist ideology. It aims to murder or subjugate all non-Muslims under its rule. Islamic jihad started in the 7th century, in the Arabian Peninsula. Then through massacres and social pressure, including the jizya tax and the institution of dhimmitude, it expanded to three continents -- Asia, Africa and Europe -- and persecuted countless indigenous peoples.
It seems that one of the most effective ways to stop this pattern is to support Christians and other non-Muslims in the Middle East. The West would not only gain a significant ally in the Middle East, but also the political, military, and economic influence of Islamists will be weakened.
Western countries should welcome Christians and Yazidis -- the main targets of genocide -- to the West immediately, and also consider ways to empower them in their native lands, such as by creating safe havens for them. It is high time that not only the U.S. but all other Western governments finally saw that the Christians in the Middle East are them.
Uzay Bulut, a journalist born and raised a Muslim in Turkey, is currently based in Washington D.C.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Linda,

There are many such reports that go "unnoticed" in the USA. We have been, for many years, only feed the information that is picked by the five outlets that furnish our daily dose of mis/information. I believe that most people, Conservatives mostly, are now awake and know that we have only one part of the picture. It is like the five blind monk story with the elephant. Muslim do not just kill infidels, they kill each other at an alarming rate. For example, the recent terror attack in Istanbul that killed 41 people.... muslim killing muslim. The truth, twelve million muslims have been killed by other muslims since 1948. The number of people killed during the Arab-Israeli conflict is 0.3 percent of this. What makes the news... well some white man in Canada goes crazy and kills 6 muslims. All this reminds me of an old Beetles song.... "Living is easy with eyes closed..." I offer just one caution when reading the news.... verify everything before you put faith in what is reported.

For you, a youngster, listening pleasure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG8cR4ovD_o

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Excellent article and so damning as it relates to what is truly going on, my heart breaks for them and angers me moreso...persecution such as is done renders a death sentence in reality..

Thank You for posting this..As difficult as it was to read, I very much appreciate it...

I hope and pray President Trump stands strong for all of them and makes them a priority when feasible now, not later!

This stuck out to me as the lasting truth of these genocidal monsters ~To those whom believe otherwise, you are sorely mistaken...Just look at the countries infiltrated and see this beginning riget here!! It rule is time for affirmative action, not just words!!
But ISIS and other Islamist organizations are not trying to destroy Islam and Muslims. On the contrary, they aim to further institutionalize Islam and even expand Islamic influence to other lands and establish a Caliphate (Islamic empire) based on Islamic scriptures.
Helping religious minorities in the Muslim world is not just a humanitarian issue, but also a political issue of vital importance to the West. Some people might think that the U.S. or the West should not get engaged in Middle Eastern politics.

plainlogic

Meaning of Fact is “something collectively perceived to be true” while Fiction is “an imaginative creation or a pretense that does not represent actuality but has been invented”. Like the fiction writing of the main stream news that so many liberals follow along so blindly.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

The most telling even after what they lived during the election and one sided reporting along with all the false/fake news, they STILL buy it.... Gullible?? I suspect not!!

theotts

That's a silly claim, even on its face. There are literally hundreds of news sources. Just a few; al Jazeera, Le Monde, Die Ziet, Bild, London Times, Toronto Star, et al.

What's telling is that, on stories they all cover, they're in agreement with the Washington Post, the New York Times & other newspapers of record from all over the US.
Faux news and the Wall Street Journal get around this problem by burying such stories.

Add to that the claim of fake news by Trump regarding the numbers at his inaugural show, when in fact the allegations came from the Park Service and the DC Transit Authority and your claims of fake news are, tada! fake news.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Me included. I don't think anyone has the right to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. I certainly wouldn't like it if others did it here. I find it morally reprehensible the way these people are treated; my advice to them would be to leave and find somewhere else better suited to their peaceful existence. It's either that or fight it out in place and that cannot end well.

Reading that article, I found myself wondering what I would do in the same circumstances. It is incomprehensible to me the way these people survive from one day to the next. Fight or flee, I don't know, and I do not want to find out. These people are the victims of an ill will that reaches back centuries. It is institutionalized. How do you fight that? How do you put an end to it? Muslims in the Middle East see the murder, rape and enslavement of Non-Muslim men, women and children as a form of entertainment, much as we here in the West play baseball or watch NASCAR. How do you make it morally wrong in their eyes?

I am unable to find or recall a single time in history when western forces have intervened in Middle Eastern affairs and had a positive outcome. Most certainly not since 2001. If not for Western interference in the Middle East over the last 2- or 300 years, there would have been no World Trade Center attack and the subsequent 15 year conflict would never have happened.

Of course, it's too late now. The lid has been raised and the evils of Pandora's box have been unleashed on the world. Now there's no turning back.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

You obviously missed the campaigning, primaries and debates...

Had you watched them or read any of Podesta, Wasserman and Hillary's, emails on how they planned to take Bernery out, you would know what you speak off..And we won't even get into bills chance meeting with Lynch on the tarmac or hills pay to lay foundation of millions from our enemy's no less, or her Wall St cronies that your leftist owned, lieing media suppressed ....

Born yesterday were you?? Ha....

Take it elsewhere your BS won't fly with me...

theotts

You didn't speak to my point, did you?
Apart from that, the claims you make are not mentioned in the mainstream press because they are 100% manufactured "facts" repeated constantly in partisan media.
Your problem is you "think" only that is true which you are told by your puppet masters to believe.
Reality, little one, has a leftist bias.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

We all wanted revenge after 911 and to ensure we never had such a thing happen again.. We went in haste and did not accomplish our objective then.. We did manage to throw ourself right into an ongoing battle since the beginning of time Larry, that will be here long after we are gone... Land for starterst, giving warfare, ports, harbors etc and oil is all this has ever been about..

I say pull out and let them kill each other off... When and if they threaten our people overseas or on our soul, no discussion, take them out swiftly and be done with it... Wars aren't about PC anything.. They are vicious and kill many needlessly.. Hit them a couple of times hard, and walk away.. Don't apologize, don't rebuild their countries etc just look them in the eye and tell them we are done pussy footing around....You want more bring it, you won't live to see the end!!

We have got to reestablish this country first and they need to know Muslim terrorist will not be here, not now, not ever...

I still say our Muslim allowance should be fashioned by Japan...

Trump has the right idea, only 50k illegals a year!! That's all illegals, period!