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Jan 29, 2017 20:11:21   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
okie don wrote:
Dross,
Why don't you take a little vacation trip up to Dearborne, Michigan.
Why don't you get on the internet and see what's going on in Europe and the Muslims.
Check France and Switzerland, Germany too. The MSMedia just isn't showing much. Hmmmmm
wonder why?
We already had one ' beheading ' down here in Moore, Oklahoma a year or so back. Really don't
need more around here so I suggest we just stop the inflow.

You might recall Marco Polo's quote too:
" The militant Muslim ' beheads' you as the Moderate Muslim holds your feet".

I was always taught " It's better to be safe than sorry".
Dross, br Why don't you take a little vacation tri... (show quote)


In essence, I agree with the original thread post, but I write only to the quote being attributed to Marco Polo as false.

The eRumor started with a post on social media sites that claims Marco Polo wrote, “The militant Muslim is the person who beheads the infidel, while the moderate Muslim holds the feet of the victim.”

Polo was a Venetian merchant who gained fame for writing about his travels in China, Central Asia and Persia in the 13th and 14th centuries. The idea that Polo would use the modern concepts “militant” and “moderate” Muslims in the middle ages is unlikely.

The quote first appeared online in 2008 in a post headlined, “Great Thinkers on Islam.” It was attributed to a professor of philosophy named Dr. M. Sabieski. The quote has regularly appeared online since — but Dr. M. Sabieski hasn’t. There are no online records of a professor of philosophy by that name, so its authorship can’t be verified.

But it should be noted that Polo did comment on followers of Islam in his book, “The Travels of Marco Polo, the Venetian.” On page 45, Polo describes his experiences with the people of Tauris (modern day Crimea).

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Jan 29, 2017 20:14:29   #
Dr.Dross
 
America Only wrote:
If you were merely a pet dog..your owner would have to put you down....needle time!


You are just a troll and I said I would ignore you until you actually had facts or reasonable arguments but you are somewhat like finding this exotic species of bug: a stinger with no venom or bite. I have no friends or family or anyone in recollection that never has anything to say worthwhile. Your total lack of intelligent dialogue or argument is amazing. Pure insult. Impressive.

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Jan 29, 2017 20:26:24   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Trump’s Ban on Refugees from five Muslim countries on Holocaust Remembrance Day is especially poignant, for to America’s shame we turned away Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany. His obvious insensitivity to the desperate state of these refugees shows in the brutal irony of that executive order on this day. The ill-will and callousness of this action by Trump, the land of immigrants, will have far-reaching consequences that can never be properly assessed. Just by picking a certain religious group to ban from our shores and favor another religion in that same action he slams a door on the 1st Amendment and may make it easier in the future for the growing secular population to slam the door on Christians with this precedent. Not one of those nation’s banned has committed a terrorist act on our shores. 9/11 had 15 from Saudi Arabia (not on the list), 2 from the United Arab Emirates (not on the list), and 1 each from Egypt and Lebanon (not on the list). So for a Muslim, it is safe to assume it is not about keeping out terrorists but Muslims.
Trump’s Ban on Refugees from five Muslim countries... (show quote)


Doc: Your gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming! Back into your troll hole and live with this new administration for the next 12 years!

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Jan 29, 2017 20:33:51   #
moldyoldy
 
Babsan wrote:
Dear moldy yoldy.I have been around the world and see what is happening on the border crossings etc.My country where I grew up is destroyed by these savages.Yes I believe what I write as it is based on personal observations and also travel to the Middle East.


No ISIS in Mexico.


http://www.politifact.com/arizona/statements/2016/mar/10/jeff-dewit/isis-crossing-us-mexico-border/

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/isismexico.asp

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Jan 29, 2017 21:50:00   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
moldyoldy wrote:
No ISIS in Mexico.


http://www.politifact.com/arizona/statements/2016/mar/10/jeff-dewit/isis-crossing-us-mexico-border/

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/isismexico.asp


moldy: You and your worthless hoppy sites!!!! Instead of typing on your computer......Try working on your skill sets!!!!!!

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Jan 29, 2017 22:32:25   #
moldyoldy
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
moldy: You and your worthless hoppy sites!!!! Instead of typing on your computer......Try working on your skill sets!!!!!!


I know it hurts for you to be wrong about everything, but you should be used to it by now.

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Jan 29, 2017 22:55:15   #
okie don
 
Moldy, no.one paysattnto Snopes.
It's a husband/wife team working out of their residence.
I hear they got divorced recently.

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Jan 29, 2017 23:57:22   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I know it hurts for you to be wrong about everything, but you should be used to it by now.


I can understand you must live now for at least 12 years under a conservative leader!!!!!!!! That is one of many things I know....very few things I know are wrong, and you know it!!!!!



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Jan 30, 2017 06:11:15   #
Turk182
 
It was the united States that started ISISS, and it backfired on them. Some states have banned Muslims, which is not a religion, it is a cult that wants to kill all infidels. You don't know who or what is under the burka, it could be a man with a gun or bomb. I believe Louisiana only allows a mask to be worn at Halloween, and Texas don't want any Muslims. Why did Obama only let men Muslims into the US? Do you have an answer for that? By the way do you know the united States is not a government, it is a corporation, the same as Walmart or Target, do you belong to one of them and follow their rules? The Corporation (united States) only has jurisdiction on the property they own, and only government workers (who lost their citizenship when the took their office) and citizens need to follow their rules.

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Jan 30, 2017 07:47:28   #
okie don
 
slatten49 wrote:
In essence, I agree with the original thread post, but I write only to the quote being attributed to Marco Polo as false.

The eRumor started with a post on social media sites that claims Marco Polo wrote, “The militant Muslim is the person who beheads the infidel, while the moderate Muslim holds the feet of the victim.”

Polo was a Venetian merchant who gained fame for writing about his travels in China, Central Asia and Persia in the 13th and 14th centuries. The idea that Polo would use the modern concepts “militant” and “moderate” Muslims in the middle ages is unlikely.

The quote first appeared online in 2008 in a post headlined, “Great Thinkers on Islam.” It was attributed to a professor of philosophy named Dr. M. Sabieski. The quote has regularly appeared online since — but Dr. M. Sabieski hasn’t. There are no online records of a professor of philosophy by that name, so its authorship can’t be verified.

But it should be noted that Polo did comment on followers of Islam in his book, “The Travels of Marco Polo, the Venetian.” On page 45, Polo describes his experiences with the people of Tauris (modern day Crimea).
In essence, I agree with the original thread post,... (show quote)

Thanks slatten,
Perhaps I didn't research this adaquately.
I ' assumed' this quote was valid...

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Jan 30, 2017 07:50:36   #
okie don
 
Turk182 wrote:
It was the united States that started ISISS, and it backfired on them. Some states have banned Muslims, which is not a religion, it is a cult that wants to kill all infidels. You don't know who or what is under the burka, it could be a man with a gun or bomb. I believe Louisiana only allows a mask to be worn at Halloween, and Texas don't want any Muslims. Why did Obama only let men Muslims into the US? Do you have an answer for that? By the way do you know the united States is not a government, it is a corporation, the same as Walmart or Target, do you belong to one of them and follow their rules? The Corporation (united States) only has jurisdiction on the property they own, and only government workers (who lost their citizenship when the took their office) and citizens need to follow their rules.
It was the united States that started ISISS, and i... (show quote)


What's 'scary' is these children are' brainwashed' from infants to detest/ hate Christians.
It's inbred in them apparently from childhood.

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Jan 30, 2017 09:31:51   #
malachi
 
Our country can't check out thousands of entrants at one time. We need time
to get things in order. Can't you see that?

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Jan 30, 2017 13:28:02   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Trump’s Ban on Refugees from five Muslim countries on Holocaust Remembrance Day is especially poignant, for to America’s shame we turned away Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany. His obvious insensitivity to the desperate state of these refugees shows in the brutal irony of that executive order on this day. The ill-will and callousness of this action by Trump, the land of immigrants, will have far-reaching consequences that can never be properly assessed. Just by picking a certain religious group to ban from our shores and favor another religion in that same action he slams a door on the 1st Amendment and may make it easier in the future for the growing secular population to slam the door on Christians with this precedent. Not one of those nation’s banned has committed a terrorist act on our shores. 9/11 had 15 from Saudi Arabia (not on the list), 2 from the United Arab Emirates (not on the list), and 1 each from Egypt and Lebanon (not on the list). So for a Muslim, it is safe to assume it is not about keeping out terrorists but Muslims.
Trump’s Ban on Refugees from five Muslim countries... (show quote)


It's obvious that the only reason you hate Trump is because he's white. Racist!

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Jan 31, 2017 01:54:46   #
viking747
 
Good point. In Holland a group of Muslims were filmed tearing down a Christmas Tree in a mall. In Germany a group ruined a public pool by what they did in it. President Trump is just protecting America by his action.

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Jan 31, 2017 02:04:06   #
viking747
 
hey Moldy, it sounds like your brain is collecting the mold. Muslims are very dangerous people and we have to realize it. A few years ago a Christian group walked through a town wearing shirts with Christian saying. The were pelted with rocks and obscenities. Where were the Christians stoned? You might think of some far away place but it happened in Dearborn, Michigan. We have to protect the country if we want to have one.

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