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Do Not Trust Governments or Their Employees
Jan 14, 2017 12:33:22   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
FTA


I am familiar with the case of Robert Kahre who eventually lost a battle with the IRS for paying his employees in $20 gold pieces to avoid payroll taxes. However, do you think holding foreign currency gold pieces in a foreign bank account would be different from a US tax perspective so that the legal tender value in that country would apply towards the $10,000 reporting level?

ANSWER: The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in California has upheld the criminal conviction of Robert Kahre, the man who tried to circumvent the IRS by paying his employees in gold coin. He relied on the face value of the gold coins being below the legal threshold that triggers withholding taxes. A $20 gold coin is legal tender for only $20 — not its gold value. Gold was never demonetized. From a strict construction perspective, Kahre was correct and should not have been charged legally. However, the IRS interprets the value of the gold, not the legal tender value. The Court held that Kahre didn’t do his duty to serve as a tax collector for the United States, for which you, as an employer, are not paid. Kahre is currently serving a 15-year sentence.

You must understand that you are dancing with the devil. There is absolutely NO RULE OF LAW whatsoever and all your constitutional rights are fictional. Your liberty and human rights are in the hands of every petty government officer because they get to do whatever they desire and it has become your burden to go to court to PROVE you have any human rights. This is what happens in all republics. Whenever you have a political class, they always exert their power against the people. There is ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORICAL EXCEPTION!

You cannot possibly fight against government. They can say whatever they want and their judges rule in government’s favor. Forget it! You cannot find any possible legal argument that will ever survive.

Politicians often promote the least ethical people to various positions to ensure that they will have no loyalty, except to the person of their benefactor. Saint Thomas Becket (1119/1120 – 1170) was Archbishop of Canterbury from 1162 until his murder in 1170 at the altar of the church. He was the drinking buddy of King Henry II, King of England. Henry wanted to control the church and installed his friend who had never been a priest. Upon becoming Archbishop, Thomas found religion. He suddenly defended the church and was murdered in Canterbury Cathedral. So there are a few historical exceptions. However, the typical appointment of someone by politicians is normally to further their own power.

There is no sure-fire way to beat the government. They can say whatever they desire and the likelihood of you prevailing in a court of law is somewhere below zero. There are no fair trials. They do not exist anymore. All that is left is the Crash & Burn. Then we will get the chance to restart. It was Ben Franklin who warned against this legal system. He proposed that the legal community should nominate all judges. They will always nominate the best so they get rid of the competition. That was the Scottish system. The Constitutional Convention overruled Franklin to ensure government would control the courts. This is what we get – total corruption and no rule of law.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/do-not-trust-governments-or-their-employees/
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I have said many times that if ALL PEOPLE OF ALL COUNTRIES WERE ANARCHISTS, FREEDOM WOULD BE WORLDWIDE. WARS would not have to be fought. No one could force anyone to go to war. No one could take your money against your wishes unless YOU allowed it. Governments cannot exist without using FORCE, AND WHILE THE FORCE MAY BE TOUTED TO HELP CITIZENS, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT IT HARMS CITIZENS. Without governments there would be no need for military, no need for war time weapons, no need for prisons (people could defend themselves from criminals without fear of courts). Do not buy the mantra that anarchy means chaos......it only means chaos if the people allow it to mean chaos. Anarchy's true definition is: without a ruler. Government is that heavily disguised RULER. Wimps think that without GOVERNMENT the fire departments would dwindle away, highways would not be built, etc. The people who believe that civilization would be at a standstill are NOT THINKING PEOPLE, but people trying to protect that which deprives us of our God given freedoms.

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Jan 14, 2017 13:41:20   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
Tasine wrote:
FTA


I am familiar with the case of Robert Kahre who eventually lost a battle with the IRS for paying his employees in $20 gold pieces to avoid payroll taxes. However, do you think holding foreign currency gold pieces in a foreign bank account would be different from a US tax perspective so that the legal tender value in that country would apply towards the $10,000 reporting level?

ANSWER: The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in California has upheld the criminal conviction of Robert Kahre, the man who tried to circumvent the IRS by paying his employees in gold coin. He relied on the face value of the gold coins being below the legal threshold that triggers withholding taxes. A $20 gold coin is legal tender for only $20 — not its gold value. Gold was never demonetized. From a strict construction perspective, Kahre was correct and should not have been charged legally. However, the IRS interprets the value of the gold, not the legal tender value. The Court held that Kahre didn’t do his duty to serve as a tax collector for the United States, for which you, as an employer, are not paid. Kahre is currently serving a 15-year sentence.

You must understand that you are dancing with the devil. There is absolutely NO RULE OF LAW whatsoever and all your constitutional rights are fictional. Your liberty and human rights are in the hands of every petty government officer because they get to do whatever they desire and it has become your burden to go to court to PROVE you have any human rights. This is what happens in all republics. Whenever you have a political class, they always exert their power against the people. There is ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORICAL EXCEPTION!

You cannot possibly fight against government. They can say whatever they want and their judges rule in government’s favor. Forget it! You cannot find any possible legal argument that will ever survive.

Politicians often promote the least ethical people to various positions to ensure that they will have no loyalty, except to the person of their benefactor. Saint Thomas Becket (1119/1120 – 1170) was Archbishop of Canterbury from 1162 until his murder in 1170 at the altar of the church. He was the drinking buddy of King Henry II, King of England. Henry wanted to control the church and installed his friend who had never been a priest. Upon becoming Archbishop, Thomas found religion. He suddenly defended the church and was murdered in Canterbury Cathedral. So there are a few historical exceptions. However, the typical appointment of someone by politicians is normally to further their own power.

There is no sure-fire way to beat the government. They can say whatever they desire and the likelihood of you prevailing in a court of law is somewhere below zero. There are no fair trials. They do not exist anymore. All that is left is the Crash & Burn. Then we will get the chance to restart. It was Ben Franklin who warned against this legal system. He proposed that the legal community should nominate all judges. They will always nominate the best so they get rid of the competition. That was the Scottish system. The Constitutional Convention overruled Franklin to ensure government would control the courts. This is what we get – total corruption and no rule of law.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/do-not-trust-governments-or-their-employees/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have said many times that if ALL PEOPLE OF ALL COUNTRIES WERE ANARCHISTS, FREEDOM WOULD BE WORLDWIDE. WARS would not have to be fought. No one could force anyone to go to war. No one could take your money against your wishes unless YOU allowed it. Governments cannot exist without using FORCE, AND WHILE THE FORCE MAY BE TOUTED TO HELP CITIZENS, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT IT HARMS CITIZENS. Without governments there would be no need for military, no need for war time weapons, no need for prisons (people could defend themselves from criminals without fear of courts). Do not buy the mantra that anarchy means chaos......it only means chaos if the people allow it to mean chaos. Anarchy's true definition is: without a ruler. Government is that heavily disguised RULER. Wimps think that without GOVERNMENT the fire departments would dwindle away, highways would not be built, etc. The people who believe that civilization would be at a standstill are NOT THINKING PEOPLE, but people trying to protect that which deprives us of our God given freedoms.
FTA br br br I am familiar with the case of Robe... (show quote)



Wow! A thinker, in this day and age!

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Jan 15, 2017 09:52:04   #
skopii
 
Tasine wrote:
FTA


I am familiar with the case of Robert Kahre who eventually lost a battle with the IRS for paying his employees in $20 gold pieces to avoid payroll taxes. However, do you think holding foreign currency gold pieces in a foreign bank account would be different from a US tax perspective so that the legal tender value in that country would apply towards the $10,000 reporting level?

ANSWER: The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in California has upheld the criminal conviction of Robert Kahre, the man who tried to circumvent the IRS by paying his employees in gold coin. He relied on the face value of the gold coins being below the legal threshold that triggers withholding taxes. A $20 gold coin is legal tender for only $20 — not its gold value. Gold was never demonetized. From a strict construction perspective, Kahre was correct and should not have been charged legally. However, the IRS interprets the value of the gold, not the legal tender value. The Court held that Kahre didn’t do his duty to serve as a tax collector for the United States, for which you, as an employer, are not paid. Kahre is currently serving a 15-year sentence.

You must understand that you are dancing with the devil. There is absolutely NO RULE OF LAW whatsoever and all your constitutional rights are fictional. Your liberty and human rights are in the hands of every petty government officer because they get to do whatever they desire and it has become your burden to go to court to PROVE you have any human rights. This is what happens in all republics. Whenever you have a political class, they always exert their power against the people. There is ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORICAL EXCEPTION!

You cannot possibly fight against government. They can say whatever they want and their judges rule in government’s favor. Forget it! You cannot find any possible legal argument that will ever survive.

Politicians often promote the least ethical people to various positions to ensure that they will have no loyalty, except to the person of their benefactor. Saint Thomas Becket (1119/1120 – 1170) was Archbishop of Canterbury from 1162 until his murder in 1170 at the altar of the church. He was the drinking buddy of King Henry II, King of England. Henry wanted to control the church and installed his friend who had never been a priest. Upon becoming Archbishop, Thomas found religion. He suddenly defended the church and was murdered in Canterbury Cathedral. So there are a few historical exceptions. However, the typical appointment of someone by politicians is normally to further their own power.

There is no sure-fire way to beat the government. They can say whatever they desire and the likelihood of you prevailing in a court of law is somewhere below zero. There are no fair trials. They do not exist anymore. All that is left is the Crash & Burn. Then we will get the chance to restart. It was Ben Franklin who warned against this legal system. He proposed that the legal community should nominate all judges. They will always nominate the best so they get rid of the competition. That was the Scottish system. The Constitutional Convention overruled Franklin to ensure government would control the courts. This is what we get – total corruption and no rule of law.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/do-not-trust-governments-or-their-employees/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have said many times that if ALL PEOPLE OF ALL COUNTRIES WERE ANARCHISTS, FREEDOM WOULD BE WORLDWIDE. WARS would not have to be fought. No one could force anyone to go to war. No one could take your money against your wishes unless YOU allowed it. Governments cannot exist without using FORCE, AND WHILE THE FORCE MAY BE TOUTED TO HELP CITIZENS, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT IT HARMS CITIZENS. Without governments there would be no need for military, no need for war time weapons, no need for prisons (people could defend themselves from criminals without fear of courts). Do not buy the mantra that anarchy means chaos......it only means chaos if the people allow it to mean chaos. Anarchy's true definition is: without a ruler. Government is that heavily disguised RULER. Wimps think that without GOVERNMENT the fire departments would dwindle away, highways would not be built, etc. The people who believe that civilization would be at a standstill are NOT THINKING PEOPLE, but people trying to protect that which deprives us of our God given freedoms.
FTA br br br I am familiar with the case of Robe... (show quote)


Governments and their employees, the govern-MENTALS, engage in Collusive, Corruptive Behaviors, that are not only contrary to being of Service to their citizenry; they obfuscate and confuse, in order to Abuse; for their own self serving interests: Power, Money or Both. They are able to Collude and engage in Corrupt behaviors, because they are Too Long in Office. They can and do make collusive pacts and cover ups for each other. There is an answer to this dilemma. The Political Corruption Solution. Remove Them. One Term Only. "Vote Incumbents OUT!" Thank You.

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Jan 15, 2017 10:00:28   #
skopii
 
Tasine wrote:
FTA


I am familiar with the case of Robert Kahre who eventually lost a battle with the IRS for paying his employees in $20 gold pieces to avoid payroll taxes. However, do you think holding foreign currency gold pieces in a foreign bank account would be different from a US tax perspective so that the legal tender value in that country would apply towards the $10,000 reporting level?

ANSWER: The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in California has upheld the criminal conviction of Robert Kahre, the man who tried to circumvent the IRS by paying his employees in gold coin. He relied on the face value of the gold coins being below the legal threshold that triggers withholding taxes. A $20 gold coin is legal tender for only $20 — not its gold value. Gold was never demonetized. From a strict construction perspective, Kahre was correct and should not have been charged legally. However, the IRS interprets the value of the gold, not the legal tender value. The Court held that Kahre didn’t do his duty to serve as a tax collector for the United States, for which you, as an employer, are not paid. Kahre is currently serving a 15-year sentence.

You must understand that you are dancing with the devil. There is absolutely NO RULE OF LAW whatsoever and all your constitutional rights are fictional. Your liberty and human rights are in the hands of every petty government officer because they get to do whatever they desire and it has become your burden to go to court to PROVE you have any human rights. This is what happens in all republics. Whenever you have a political class, they always exert their power against the people. There is ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORICAL EXCEPTION!

You cannot possibly fight against government. They can say whatever they want and their judges rule in government’s favor. Forget it! You cannot find any possible legal argument that will ever survive.

Politicians often promote the least ethical people to various positions to ensure that they will have no loyalty, except to the person of their benefactor. Saint Thomas Becket (1119/1120 – 1170) was Archbishop of Canterbury from 1162 until his murder in 1170 at the altar of the church. He was the drinking buddy of King Henry II, King of England. Henry wanted to control the church and installed his friend who had never been a priest. Upon becoming Archbishop, Thomas found religion. He suddenly defended the church and was murdered in Canterbury Cathedral. So there are a few historical exceptions. However, the typical appointment of someone by politicians is normally to further their own power.

There is no sure-fire way to beat the government. They can say whatever they desire and the likelihood of you prevailing in a court of law is somewhere below zero. There are no fair trials. They do not exist anymore. All that is left is the Crash & Burn. Then we will get the chance to restart. It was Ben Franklin who warned against this legal system. He proposed that the legal community should nominate all judges. They will always nominate the best so they get rid of the competition. That was the Scottish system. The Constitutional Convention overruled Franklin to ensure government would control the courts. This is what we get – total corruption and no rule of law.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/do-not-trust-governments-or-their-employees/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have said many times that if ALL PEOPLE OF ALL COUNTRIES WERE ANARCHISTS, FREEDOM WOULD BE WORLDWIDE. WARS would not have to be fought. No one could force anyone to go to war. No one could take your money against your wishes unless YOU allowed it. Governments cannot exist without using FORCE, AND WHILE THE FORCE MAY BE TOUTED TO HELP CITIZENS, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT IT HARMS CITIZENS. Without governments there would be no need for military, no need for war time weapons, no need for prisons (people could defend themselves from criminals without fear of courts). Do not buy the mantra that anarchy means chaos......it only means chaos if the people allow it to mean chaos. Anarchy's true definition is: without a ruler. Government is that heavily disguised RULER. Wimps think that without GOVERNMENT the fire departments would dwindle away, highways would not be built, etc. The people who believe that civilization would be at a standstill are NOT THINKING PEOPLE, but people trying to protect that which deprives us of our God given freedoms.
FTA br br br I am familiar with the case of Robe... (show quote)


Governments and their employees, the govern-MENTALS, engage in Collusive, Corruptive Behaviors, that are not only contrary to being of Service to their citizenry; they obfuscate and confuse, in order to Abuse; for their own self serving interests: Power, Money or Both. They are able to Collude and engage in Corrupt behaviors, because they are Too Long in Office. They can and do make collusive pacts and cover ups for each other. There is an answer to this dilemma. The Political Corruption Solution. Remove Them, they're useless. One Term Only. "Vote Incumbents OUT!" Thank You.

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Jan 15, 2017 12:19:28   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
skopii wrote:
Governments and their employees, the govern-MENTALS, engage in Collusive, Corruptive Behaviors, that are not only contrary to being of Service to their citizenry; they obfuscate and confuse, in order to Abuse; for their own self serving interests: Power, Money or Both. They are able to Collude and engage in Corrupt behaviors, because they are Too Long in Office. They can and do make collusive pacts and cover ups for each other. There is an answer to this dilemma. The Political Corruption Solution. Remove Them. One Term Only. "Vote Incumbents OUT!" Thank You.
Governments and their employees, the govern-MENTAL... (show quote)

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Good idea! I've made myself a promise: never vote for the same person twice. It's the KISS formula! Keep It Simple, Stupid. Works for me.

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Jan 15, 2017 14:00:15   #
skopii
 
That's a good way to do it. "Vote Incumbents OUT!" Thank You.

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