Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Here's the whole quote: “Marijuana is safe, we know it is safe,” Nelson recalled her “DEA education coordinator, Paul Villaescusa,” telling her, according to Illegally Healed. But “[i]t’s our cash cow and we will never give up.”

http://hightimes.com/news/former-dea-propagandist-says-agency-knows-marijuana-is-safe/

But it gets worse: "Opiate addicts were finding success getting off junk by using marijuana—and rather than cop to the fact, the agency maintained its hard line."

Not only do they know it's not harmful, but it's actually helping. Even so, the "agency maintained its hard line."

Time to end this spectacularly failed 'war on drugs' and send these lying fools out into the world where they might actually do some good.

Rivers

Bullshit! Fake news!

reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

[quote=Larry the Legend]Here's the whole quote: “Marijuana is safe, we know it is safe,” Nelson recalled her “DEA education coordinator, Paul Villaescusa,” telling her, according to Illegally Healed. But “[i]t’s our cash cow and we will never give up.”

http://hightimes.com/news/former-dea-propagandist-says-agency-knows-marijuana-is-safe/

But it gets worse: "Opiate addicts were finding success getting off junk by using marijuana—and rather than cop to the fact, the agency maintained its hard line."

Not only do they know it's not harmful, but it's actually helping. Even so, the "agency maintained its hard line."

Time to end this spectacularly failed 'war on drugs' and send these lying fools out into the world where they might actually do some good.[/quote]


Marijuana is safe ????? that's debateable , to each their own but I prefer not to be around dopers anymore , some people handle it fine but others just wilt ,,,

Rivers

Marijuana is NOT safe, and nobody will convince me otherwise. I have seen first hand the destructive effects of Marijuana use, and it is not safe. It takes time to gather statistics on the use of Marijuana, and when they're finally published, the results will be shocking. We already have devastating statistics from alchol abuse, the DUIs, traffic fatalities, ruined families and lives, and now they want to add to those with Marijuana legalization? Unreal! We'll have even more zombie youths failing in school, more homeless, higher crime, more DUIs and traffic fatalities, and there is the stink of Marijuana smoke, especially on users clothing. I have no problem with medical Marijuana, only prescribe it like all medication and can only obtain at a pharmacy with a doctors prescription. Like I have said before, I have seen the effects first hand from several familiy members who either died early or have ruined lives. Nothing good will come from legalizing Marijuana. And, all this bullshit about the Drug war failing is just a cop out.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

"The trends were similar in the US and in Europe. The authors’ conclusion was clear: “These findings suggest that expanding efforts at controlling the global illegal drug market through law enforcement are failing.”":

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/19/war-on-drugs-statistics-systematic-policy-failure-united-nations

"As with Prohibition, the War on Drugs has only added to the problems that it was supposed to alleviate."

http://drug-war.us/

"The Lancet: Experts call for global drug policy reform as evidence shows 'war on drugs' has harmed public health and human rights":

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-03/tl-tle032216.php

"After 45 years, more than $1 trillion wasted, and the creation of the world's largest prison system, America still lacks the political will to change its failed drug policy":

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-america-cant-quit-the-drug-war-20160505

Bullshit? Really?

the waker Loc: 11th freest nation

Now Rivers, I like ya buddy but have to partially disagree w/ ya on this one.
Now w/ any drug if it's abused, of course it can have devestating consiquences.
Although personally, from all the drugs and alcohol issues in this country, I have found Marijuana to be the least of the problems, and probably a healthier alternative to the rest.

Rivers

Yes, bullshit, and just more of it! I guess you read nothing of what i wrote? Your post, and links are bullshit and fake news!

Rivers

Man, I give up! I TOTALLY DISAGREE!!!!!!!!!! I have seen the effects up personally!!!!! So, don't come back and say that Marijuana use is okay. I have seen many times what it will do to a person and their loved ones...the early deaths, the ruined lives and families, etc! So, don't tell me it is not harmful!

the waker Loc: 11th freest nation

Sure anytime one introduces a new substance to they're body it can have devastating effects.

Personally, I still feel it's safer than alcohol.
We have people who can handle alcohol, and people who can't.
Marijuana is really no different in my book.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

You knew someone(s) who died as a direct result of marijuana use? That's a story I'm very interested in hearing. Please. do tell...

Rivers

Disagree!

Rivers

Okay, I see how you phrased your question. Question for you: it is proven that cigarette smoke ingested into the lungs causes lung cancer, what do you suppose marijuana smoke ingested into the lungs causes? I had two cousins who never smoked cigarettes, but smoked marijuana (extensively), and both died of lung cancer...one in her 40s, and the other in her early 50s. My wife's brother has totally screwed up his life because of marijuana. Not to mention that many doctors say that marijuana is a gateway drug, leading to harder drugs...and, the marijuana today is much stronger than the marijuana produced in the 60s and 70s. So, you can spout all the phony good attributes you want about smoking marijuana, but your're just spouting misinformation, naivety, and lies.

tri-states

Lock and load with hog fat lubed ammo, before it's too late!!!

Michaeljames Loc: S.D.

Funny, Rivers, in all that you never mentioned that the MORE problematic alcohol should be made illegal! Does far more damage to society than marijuana. And statistics prove it.

Paybacktimeishere

"Marijuana is safe, we know it is safe"

When I Was A Much Younger Man, I Did
Try MJ, just to see what all the "Hippie Hype",
was about. IT did nothing for me! Nothing like
Vodka & Hi-C Cocktail's, which I grew out of.
However, the point most people ignore, is the
real threat to our young, people's mind's & motivation, BUT, forget about National Security.
The first thing, the Imperial Japanese Army,
did after their brutal, invasion of CHINA, prior to
1941, was LEGALIZE, & SUPPLY, OPIUM To The
Chinese Masses, To CONTROL Them! Opium is
not POT, I know, because I tried it, while serving in Vietnam during R&R. The Vietnamese
civilian worker's, smoked Opium on our Base,
while doing hard work. 70 yr. old Pappasan's, lifting & sorting 50lb. cement bags all day, & not
feeling a thing. They also chewed the naturally
growing "Betel Nut"(a cocaine/amphetamine like, ingredient in this fruit). The LEFT, used drug's to control, young voter's, back in the 1960's, & 1970's, after the voting age, was lowered from 21 to 18. Only Dr.'s should be
Prescribing, any kind of DRUG, & only, on a case
by case basis. At the same time, they should
also remember, to do NO HARM!! Never Forget,
that people, under the control, of addicting DRUG'S, can be Controlled, ABSOLUTELY!!!