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President Obama's Syrian Red Line in the Sand: An American Diplomatic Disaster
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Dec 21, 2016 03:16:57   #
fullspinzoo
 
One of his worst foreign policy decisions of his 8 year tenure, if not the worst. http://constitution.com/president-obamas-syrian-red-line-sand-american-diplomatic-disaster/

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Dec 21, 2016 04:23:10   #
Nutter Loc: Fly Over Zone
 
One video of Obama setting the red line and another how the world and congress set the red line and not him.

http://beta.hotair.com/archives/2016/08/24/syria-crossed-obamas-red-line-least-twice-since-agreeing-give-chemical-weapons/

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Dec 21, 2016 06:00:37   #
LPgee
 
It's so easy to blame; quite tough to assess a Gordian situation as Syria... if we consider so many ' ingredients' that go into the decision kettle.
A man is just a man... not a God; not even a Zeus.

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Dec 21, 2016 06:32:51   #
funguy1949
 
Well what was everyone expecting of a do nothing lying ass nine liberal he was nothing but a blow hard before coming in all during his time in the WH and now he'll go out with nothing.That in my books means strikes and your out; now Trump has another thing to fix. The GD congress better get behind Trump all the way.Other wise there want be anything to fix but all out war.but one other thing take that SOB's money let the c**k sucker have nothing for all the trouble he has caused.OH,oh,oh just give him social security to live on.

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Dec 21, 2016 06:34:07   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
LPgee wrote:
It's so easy to blame; quite tough to assess a Gordian situation as Syria... if we consider so many ' ingredients' that go into the decision kettle.
A man is just a man... not a God; not even a Zeus.


400,000 would disagree. Unfortunately Obama put their heads in the sand underneath the flip flops he wears across these slippery slopes.
Silly Rabbit,/Tricks are For Kids.
Watch as he puts his tail between his legs a sees and leaves. Good riddens you worthless excuse of a POTUS!!!

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Dec 21, 2016 06:34:37   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
One of his worst foreign policy decisions of his 8 year tenure, if not the worst. http://constitution.com/president-obamas-syrian-red-line-sand-american-diplomatic-disaster/


---THERE HE GOES BLAMES EVERYONE ELSE OF HIS FAULTS !!!!!!!!! AGIAN LIKE WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE !!!!!!!! GEORGE BUSH MESSED THE ECONOMY UP NOT HIM !!!! BIG LYING DUMMY YOUR ROTTEN GOVERNMENT HAD TO FIX IT BUT YOU DIDNT HAVE GOOD ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO IT !!!!!LETS SEE WHAT HAPPEN'S WHEN TRUMP TAKES OVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dec 21, 2016 06:51:24   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
The White House is no place for non Americans anyway. And the black race would do much better to realize their place in in global events. They must stop being led by progressive diversity. So many opportunities are being ignored in the hopes and change promised by the Obama Family. It is time to March out of the corner that the Obama's have backed you'all into.

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Dec 21, 2016 07:05:48   #
MarvinSussman
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
One of his worst foreign policy decisions of his 8 year tenure, if not the worst. http://constitution.com/president-obamas-syrian-red-line-sand-american-diplomatic-disaster/


This drivel is based upon the LIE that Assad used chemical weapons AFTER Obama drew the red line. There were NO such weapons used AFTER Obama's warning.

PANTS ON FIRE!

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Dec 21, 2016 08:01:57   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
This drivel is based upon the LIE that Assad used chemical weapons AFTER Obama drew the red line. There were NO such weapons used AFTER Obama's warning.

PANTS ON FIRE!




Who told you it was a lie.....obammy? The UN and many other governing bodies disagree with you. I bet if you would quit humping obammy's leg long enough, his many failures in Syria and just about everything else his frail little hands touched would become clear.........


Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian civil war

Some of the victims of the Ghouta attack 21 August 2013
Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War has been confirmed by the United Nations. The deadliest attacks were the Ghouta attack in the suburbs of Damascus in August 2013 and the Khan al-Assal attack in the suburbs of Aleppo in March 2013. Several other attacks have been alleged, reported and/or investigated.

A U.N. fact-finding mission and a UNHRC Commission of Inquiry have simultaneously investigated the attacks. The U.N. mission found likely use of the nerve agent sarin in the case of Khan Al-Asal (19 March 2013), Saraqib (29 April 2013), Ghouta (21 August 2013), Jobar (24 August 2013) and Ashrafiyat Sahnaya (25 August 2013). The UNHRC commission later confirmed the use of sarin in the Khan al-Asal, Saraqib and Ghouta attacks, but did not mention the Jobar and the Ashrafiyat Sahnaya attacks.

The UNHRC commission also found that the sarin used in the Khan al-Asal attack bore "the same unique hallmarks" as the sarin used in the Ghouta attack and indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to chemicals from the Syrian Army's stockpile.

In August 2016, a confidential United Nations report explicitly blamed the Syrian military of Bashar al-Assad for dropping chemical weapons on the towns of Talmenes in April 2014 and Sarmin in March 2015.[1]

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Dec 21, 2016 08:37:35   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
The Russians are in Syria by invitation of the internationally recognized legitimate Syrian government of Assad. The US is there arming and supporting outside terrorist organizations illegally. It is NOT a Syrian civil war as obammy, Washington and their monky media would have you believe. Again, the US is sticking its nose in where it does NOT belong.

"The twisted reality was acknowledged by no less an authority than Vice President Joe Biden during a talk at Harvard in 2014. Biden answered a student’s question by saying Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates had “poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens, thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against [Syrian President Bashar al-] Assad.” The result, Biden said, was that “the people who were being supplied were Al Nusra and Al Qaeda and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world.”

The risks from these tangled alliances were also highlighted by a Defense Intelligence Agency report in August 2012, warning the Obama administration that the growing strength of Al Qaeda and other Sunni jihadists in Syria could lead to the creation of “an Islamic state” whose militants could move back into Iraq where the threat originated after the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

The DIA said Al Qaeda’s growing strength in Syria “creates the ideal atmosphere for AQI [Al Qaeda in Iraq] to return to its old pockets in Mosul and Ramadi and will provide a renewed momentum under the presumption of unifying the jihad among Sunni Iraq and Syria and the rest of the Sunnis in the Arab world against what it considers one enemy, the dissenters [i.e. the Shiites].

“ISI [Islamic State of Iraq, forerunner of ISIS, also known as the Islamic State] could also declare an Islamic state through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria, which will create grave danger in regards to unifying Iraq and the protection of its territory.”

Despite the prescient DIA report and Biden’s blunt admission (for which he quickly apologized), President Obama failed to put a stop to the strategy of supporting Assad’s opponents. He let Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey continue funneling weapons to the most extreme elements of the rebellion. Meanwhile, the U.S. government insisted that it was only arming “moderate” rebels, but those groups were largely subsumed or controlled by Al Qaeda’s Nusra and/or ISIS, a hyper-violent spinoff from Al Qaeda.

In Syria, rather than cooperate with Russia and Iran in helping Assad’s military defeat the jihadists, the Obama administration has continued playing it cute, insisting as Secretary of State John Kerry has said recently that armed “legitimate opposition groups” exist separately from Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front.

In reality, however, the so-called “moderate” rebels around Aleppo and Idlib are Al Qaeda’s junior partners whose value to the cause is that they qualify for CIA weaponry that can then be passed on to Nusra as well as Nusra’s key ally Ahrar al-Sham and other jihadist fighters."

http://consortiumnews.com/2016/02/18/risking-nuclear-war-for-al-qaeda/

Think--What is the US and its so-called "allies", Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey, motive for wanting Assad gone? It is all about a gas pipeline and sale of gas to Europe and Assad has sided with Russia.

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Dec 21, 2016 08:53:44   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
This drivel is based upon the LIE that Assad used chemical weapons AFTER Obama drew the red line. There were NO such weapons used AFTER Obama's warning.

PANTS ON FIRE!


Marvin , everything Obama did turned up rose's , the economy during his tenure was spectacular , the race division has melted away , we are all one and rich and poor celebrate together in unity again because of obama bringing incomes up and our streets of homeless vanished . The election of Trump will set us back 200 yrs , slavery has taken over the land again , goon squads roam the streets jailing brown people ..
THERE ARE YOU HAPPY NOW .. GOOOOOOOOOOO AWAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Dec 21, 2016 23:31:33   #
KiraSeer2016
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
One of his worst foreign policy decisions of his 8 year tenure, if not the worst. http://constitution.com/president-obamas-syrian-red-line-sand-american-diplomatic-disaster/


I read the first two sentences, and as usual, America has it wrong.

1. Assad did not use chemical weapons against his people. That was Ovomit's doing.

2. I, Carol Binkley---Carol A. Binkley---told Ovomit to stay out of Syria; I told him Syria would be his Vietnam, not Afghanistan. (He was always afraid of that.)

For anyone who thinks Ovomit had nothing to do in the Near and Middle East, I can only say this: Get a brain!! Stop with "Just because Ovomit has been the (so-called) president for the last 8 trying years, then he and America are always right."

And I can't be any more nasty than that; Someone has tied my hands.

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Dec 21, 2016 23:34:25   #
KiraSeer2016
 
LPgee wrote:
It's so easy to blame; quite tough to assess a Gordian situation as Syria... if we consider so many ' ingredients' that go into the decision kettle.
A man is just a man... not a God; not even a Zeus.


Except Ovomit is a worm. The worst of the worst. Never should have been elected. BUT America could only be proud of herself if she elected a black man as president. He was used. He could sway crowds, and "they" figured he could incite riots to prove any opposition to his Leftist/Marxist policies was racially motivated.

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Dec 21, 2016 23:37:33   #
KiraSeer2016
 
buffalo wrote:
The Russians are in Syria by invitation of the internationally recognized legitimate Syrian government of Assad. The US is there arming and supporting outside terrorist organizations illegally. It is NOT a Syrian civil war as obammy, Washington and their monky media would have you believe. Again, the US is sticking its nose in where it does NOT belong.

"The twisted reality was acknowledged by no less an authority than Vice President Joe Biden during a talk at Harvard in 2014. Biden answered a student’s question by saying Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates had “poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens, thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against [Syrian President Bashar al-] Assad.” The result, Biden said, was that “the people who were being supplied were Al Nusra and Al Qaeda and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world.”

The risks from these tangled alliances were also highlighted by a Defense Intelligence Agency report in August 2012, warning the Obama administration that the growing strength of Al Qaeda and other Sunni jihadists in Syria could lead to the creation of “an Islamic state” whose militants could move back into Iraq where the threat originated after the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

The DIA said Al Qaeda’s growing strength in Syria “creates the ideal atmosphere for AQI [Al Qaeda in Iraq] to return to its old pockets in Mosul and Ramadi and will provide a renewed momentum under the presumption of unifying the jihad among Sunni Iraq and Syria and the rest of the Sunnis in the Arab world against what it considers one enemy, the dissenters [i.e. the Shiites].

“ISI [Islamic State of Iraq, forerunner of ISIS, also known as the Islamic State] could also declare an Islamic state through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria, which will create grave danger in regards to unifying Iraq and the protection of its territory.”

Despite the prescient DIA report and Biden’s blunt admission (for which he quickly apologized), President Obama failed to put a stop to the strategy of supporting Assad’s opponents. He let Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey continue funneling weapons to the most extreme elements of the rebellion. Meanwhile, the U.S. government insisted that it was only arming “moderate” rebels, but those groups were largely subsumed or controlled by Al Qaeda’s Nusra and/or ISIS, a hyper-violent spinoff from Al Qaeda.

In Syria, rather than cooperate with Russia and Iran in helping Assad’s military defeat the jihadists, the Obama administration has continued playing it cute, insisting as Secretary of State John Kerry has said recently that armed “legitimate opposition groups” exist separately from Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front.

In reality, however, the so-called “moderate” rebels around Aleppo and Idlib are Al Qaeda’s junior partners whose value to the cause is that they qualify for CIA weaponry that can then be passed on to Nusra as well as Nusra’s key ally Ahrar al-Sham and other jihadist fighters."

http://consortiumnews.com/2016/02/18/risking-nuclear-war-for-al-qaeda/

Think--What is the US and its so-called "allies", Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey, motive for wanting Assad gone? It is all about a gas pipeline and sale of gas to Europe and Assad has sided with Russia.
The Russians are in Syria by invitation of the int... (show quote)


And "by invitation" of myself as well.

Someone had to stop the slaughter while Carter (that's Ashe Carter) stood around picking his nose and McCain et al. were busy arming the rebels/terrorists.

And President Putin has done, and is doing, an excellent job, along with President Assad, and, I hear, with the help of the Iranians.

Americans should be ashamed of themselves.

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Dec 21, 2016 23:40:44   #
KiraSeer2016
 
Stay out of Syria, America!! Only if Putin and Assad decide to "invite" you to help them, can you act responsibly to make up for your bad deeds!!

End of problem.

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