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Dec 9, 2016 19:29:18   #
Progressive One
 
Gener wrote:
I've only seen that from the progressives, which only makes sense because they have nothing to say, have no adequate news sources, believe anything the leftist propaganda machine puts out no matter how ridiculous, and in turn flat out destroy the country, the freedoms we possess, destroy the economy, make false statements, quote news sources that are known progressive disinformation quotes, and stand by and say nothing while our freedom of speech is destroyed by Hillary Clinton in her speech about fake news of which she is the worst perpetrator. These are facts, they are not BS and it is stupid and pointless to argue about them. Any honest person can see that this is an attempt to sabotage democracy and our way of life, and it is only the liberals here that I have seen tuck and run, except when the conversation gets so boring and stupid there is no point in saying anything else. Nobody can stay on these posts forever, there are new posts all of the time. Why don't you people just admit your position is a lie, and a detriment to the freedoms and democracy we have until recently enjoyed, and stop lying? That is the biggie, you just lie, and lie, and lie. There are some posters here that I have caught lying, and they just disappear for a while. A lie is a lie, why do you people continue to perpetuate it? It is just unfathomable.
I've only seen that from the progressives, which o... (show quote)


Hilarious indeed.........W destroyed the economy handed over by Clinton...let's see what Trump does to the economy Pres.Obama repaired........

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Dec 9, 2016 19:43:47   #
Morgan
 
Progressive One wrote:
Hilarious indeed.........W destroyed the economy handed over by Clinton...let's see what Trump does to the economy Pres.Obama repaired........





It is the proverbial roller coaster ride, or should I say see-saw.
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Dec 9, 2016 19:43:48   #
Richard94611
 
Trump clearly is not accepting Obama's advice about climate change/global warming. But maybe T^rump will come around when one of his golf courses goes underwater.

permafrost wrote:
One,

I find it very amusing that we read reports that Trump likes and accepts advise from Obama..

That must near kill some on OPP...

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Dec 9, 2016 19:45:35   #
Richard94611
 
The staunchist fans of Trump c annot accept the fact that when W lkeft office the economy was in a total disaster and that Obama has brought it quite a ways back from that. Unemployment is 5%, they complain. That is about what most economists say we should aim for.

Progressive One wrote:
Hilarious indeed.........W destroyed the economy handed over by Clinton...let's see what Trump does to the economy Pres.Obama repaired........

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Dec 9, 2016 19:47:04   #
Morgan
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Trump clearly is not accepting Obama's advice about climate change/global warming. But maybe T^rump will come around when one of his golf courses goes underwater.


As far as the environment, it's always the one step forward two steps back.

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Dec 9, 2016 19:49:56   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Trump clearly is not accepting Obama's advice about climate change/global warming. But maybe T^rump will come around when one of his golf courses goes underwater.






I hope that would happen fast. Befor they gut NASA, EPA, and all the protectons/work we have managed with Obama help.. Hope his damn golf course floods to the 19th hole...

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Dec 9, 2016 19:50:03   #
VladimirPee
 
poppabear42 wrote:
This is bad...Because you people are trying to blame everything bad on Obama...It took this man nearly eight years, to get as much good accomplished as he possibly could, all by himself! Everything that you people are complaining about, at least the partially true things, would not be an issue, if he hadn't been left to do everything by himself.
The republican congress, and all other republicans, made vows, and had pledged to not do one thing, to help this man succeed, which meant republicans did not want the country to succeed either, also your sick ass, possum faced republican leader, vowed to do everything he could, to make Obama a one term president. And know this, there were more than just a few Democrats, that felt the same way the republicans felt "Wholeheartedly!"
This is why you should not criticize this man, as a matter of fact, you should be thanking him for what he did get accomplished, because with over half of the damned government working against him, and trying to destroy him, I think, and I TRULY feel that he is one helluva man!!!
Because if he had turned his back on the country, just because he didn't like somebody, or didn't like a person, just because of the color of his skin, or ANY other sick assed reason, then he SHOULD NOT, be allowed, not only in your white house, but in your government either.
So blame those who you know, without even a reasonable doubt, that did the most, and tried the hardest, to keep our country, and our whole democracy in the rut that it is in. It damned sure was NOT my president B.H. Obama.
But now you've got d.j. tramp, he will lead you to your promise land...IF you've got enough money, and I don't mean you poor ass people, with less than a few billion dollars in the bank, because you are in the same damned boat that I am in.
One other thing...your republican leaders, and more than a few Democrats won't have the nerve, nor nuts to buck ol' d.j. tramp. But why should they, or you, because you are all the same...take from the needy, and give it to the rich.
And if you hadn't noticed yet, not one rich asshole has had one honest complaint, because even though, as you say, where are the jobs, and why do we have such a terrible economy...One damned thing for sure, the so called job creators, and the people stashing our money in some foreign country haven't felt any of these negatives, because although they do not give a damn about this country, and damned sure are not contributing a damned thing to this country, you republicans keep giving them our money.
So do not complain, about the people that have fell victim, to the greed of the republicans, and their commitment to the rich, and have found themselves, in the position of fulfilling those commitments, and supporting the greed of republicans...Because these poor souls are the only people that are paying their supposed "Fair share" of taxes. So back off of these people, because they paying for every damned thing the government allows them to receive.
And remember this...If the rich paid their tax, the economy would improve, if the rich really created jobs, there may not be a need for those programs that you are bitching about, if republicans had worked with Obama on creating a construction bill, that would eliminate 99% of the programs for the needy.
Just think, those three efforts alone would make the whole country even greater than it is already.
This is bad...Because you people are trying to bla... (show quote)



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Dec 9, 2016 19:51:38   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Treasury Department confirms President Obama has fully turned around the U.S. economy
By Bill Palmer | December 27, 2015


President Obama’s seven year quest to salvage the U.S. economy from the damage done to it by his predecessor George W. Bush has been an overwhelming success, according to the United States Treasury Department. Obama took over as President at a time when the economy, stock market and banking system had collapsed and were on the verge of throwing the nation into a depression due to Bush’s failed policies. But Obama’s initiatives prevented that from happening, and now the Treasury says he’s fully turned the economy around.


Treasury Secretary Jack Lew has confirmed what economists and those familiar with economic policy have already known: the U.S. economy has been growing at a steady rate for several quarters, private sector job growth is consistently high, the unemployment rate has been reduced all the way down to the five percent level which economists view as ideal, and the stock market has grown tremendously. This all occurred even as President Obama reduced the annual federal deficit by seventy-two percent. But the Secretary says there are still challenges ahead.


Lew points to the inequality between the wealthy and the working class, and business tax loopholes, as areas of concern; Obama has tried to tackle both but has faced republican opposition. But he says Social Security is in far better shape than most Americans believe.
Treasury Department confirms President Obama has f... (show quote)


Pure 100% liberal bullshit!!!!!!

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Dec 9, 2016 19:53:08   #
Gener
 
Progressive One wrote:
Hilarious indeed.........W destroyed the economy handed over by Clinton...let's see what Trump does to the economy Pres.Obama repaired........



First off, he didn't repair it. That is ridiculous, and I have already explained why, and yes, Trump will get blamed for the economy when it goes south, as it is almost certain to do when the interest rates go up. Have you even heard anything I said? The President doesn't control it. Control is from a combination of the Federal Reserve, the interest rates, and natural economic cycles. Also, the real economy is not obvious when statistics are tiltled, and not all aspects of the economy are noted in statistics. I said that before, maybe you didn't hear it. I'm not making stuff up and I am not handing out opinions. This is the way it works, period. The economy tends to tank every seven years, because that is a natural cycle. The last cycle was mild, the stock market was only down about 2000 points, I think. (Once Trump was elected the stock market skyrocketed even though liberals had said it was dropping due to the possibility of a Trump election.) That is mild percentage wise. The employment rate is a misnomer because many people have taken jobs at lesser value. That seems to not be a problem because a lot of businesses have gone overseas and it at first makes prices of goods a little cheaper. But as the trend continues, as it will under Trump regardless of what he does, the cracks in the economy will begin to reveal themselves. Interest rates are arbitrarily low, which statistics do not take into account. That makes it appear that the economy is good when its infrastructure is actually weak. Even though the last economic cycle has passed there may still be much more fallout from it, which will happen during Trump's term, which is what the liberals want because they want to blame the right.

As I said before, it is the elite bankers, the Federal Reserve, and the world elite of the NWO that controls the economy as much as they can although they as well know about economic cycles, and use their knowledge and power to exacerbate the cycles. Next year interest rates will rise. There is nothing Donald Trump or any president can do about that. It is a natural cycle. I've said this before and I know what I am talking about, so why argue with me? Why talk this silly nonsense about Republicans and Democrats or Liberals or Conservatives when it is all in the hands of the banking elite, and they couldn't care less who is President. Does this not sink in with you? Can you not understand this? This is fact, and no amount of argument can change it. This is the way it is, period. So either accept it or shut up, because you don't have a clue.

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Dec 9, 2016 19:54:30   #
Progressive One
 
Morgan wrote:
It is the proverbial roller coaster ride, or should I say see-saw.
.


Definitely.....no better description than that....GOP Destroys....Dems Save........GOP Destroys....Dems Save........GOP Destroys....Dems Save....

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Dec 9, 2016 19:55:26   #
Progressive One
 
Gener wrote:
First off, he didn't repair it. That is ridiculous, and I have already explained why, and yes, Trump will get blamed for the economy when it goes south, as it is almost certain to do when the interest rates go up. Have you even heard anything I said? The President doesn't control it. Control is from a combination of the Federal Reserve, the interest rates, and natural economic cycles. Also, the real economy is not obvious when statistics are tiltled, and not all aspects of the economy are noted in statistics. I said that before, maybe you didn't hear it. I'm not making stuff up and I am not handing out opinions. This is the way it works, period. The economy tends to tank every seven years, because that is a natural cycle. The last cycle was mild, the stock market was only down about 2000 points, I think. (Once Trump was elected the stock market skyrocketed even though liberals had said it was dropping due to the possibility of a Trump election.) That is mild percentage wise. The employment rate is a misnomer because many people have taken jobs at lesser value. That seems to not be a problem because a lot of businesses have gone overseas and it at first makes prices of goods a little cheaper. But as the trend continues, as it will under Trump regardless of what he does, the cracks in the economy will begin to reveal themselves. Interest rates are arbitrarily low, which statistics do not take into account. That makes it appear that the economy is good when its infrastructure is actually weak. Even though the last economic cycle has passed there may still be much more fallout from it, which will happen during Trump's term, which is what the liberals want because they want to blame the right.

As I said before, it is the elite bankers, the Federal Reserve, and the world elite of the NWO that controls the economy as much as they can although they as well know about economic cycles, and use their knowledge and power to exacerbate the cycles. Next year interest rates will rise. There is nothing Donald Trump or any president can do about that. It is a natural cycle. I've said this before and I know what I am talking about, so why argue with me? Why talk this silly nonsense about Republicans and Democrats or Liberals or Conservatives when it is all in the hands of the banking elite, and they couldn't care less who is President. Does this not sink in with you? Can you not understand this? This is fact, and no amount of argument can change it. This is the way it is, period. So either accept it or shut up, because you don't have a clue.
First off, he didn't repair it. That is ridiculous... (show quote)


Funny how "coincidence" works huh?

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Dec 9, 2016 19:56:57   #
Gener
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Trump clearly is not accepting Obama's advice about climate change/global warming. But maybe T^rump will come around when one of his golf courses goes underwater.



And it may very well go under water, but there is nothing Trump or Obama or any scientist or anyone anywhere can do about it. It is a natural cycle, and has little to do with anything man is doing. The earth's magnetic field is weakening and allowing in more solar radiation. That means more extreme weather of both cold and hot. More extreme is the key, and unless we can repair the magnetic field this is going to continue to happen. Many scientists know this but are lying for political reasons. You cannot stop natural cycles. It is impossible.

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Dec 9, 2016 19:57:46   #
poppabear42
 
jr;
What part is bullshit? If you name it, I'll claim it. All I ask is that you don't try to use any "Dead minded" republican bullshit to deny the truth.

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Dec 9, 2016 19:58:06   #
Gener
 
Progressive One wrote:
Funny how "coincidence" works huh?



Whatever that means.

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Dec 9, 2016 20:04:05   #
Progressive One
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Pure 100% liberal bullshit!!!!!!

nah....too many economic indicators...like record consumer spending and airport operations in LA......record numbers of passengers (67 million) and cargo tonnage and international flights.....all indicative of economic activity.......

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