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Dec 6, 2016 19:35:40   #
Mr Bombastic
 
maureenthannon wrote:
I, being a life long cold weather wimp, remember the worst winter of my life, about 20 years ago, it was 15 below zero for 2 weeks. Thart might seem mild to folks in the GreatLakes region, but to us in N.J. it was unbearable. I remember some one saying "what happened to global warming?" We all missed global warming that year. Turns out, Global Warming was a money making scheme. Al Gore made hundreds of millions, and many others were in on it. The top global scientists have long said that it was made up. Except Al, who assured us that 97% of meteotologists agreed on the gobal warming. Another lie, who'a thunk that a politician would lie? The country's top climate scientist, John Casey, wrote a book about the weather situation we're in, I believe the title's "Arctic Winter" Follow the money; Making profits is more important that truth to politicians and scammers alike. What's new?
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I went to Boot Camp at Great Lakes. I have never been so freakin cold in my life! When the wind off the lake hit you, it was...intense. The temp was in double minus digits BEFORE you factored in the the wind chill. I remember one day, the weatherman warned you to stay inside, because exposed skin would freeze in 30 seconds. I'm not kidding. It would literally freeze. We're talking almost instant frostbite.

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Dec 6, 2016 19:39:00   #
Nickolai
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
The polar ice caps are just as healthy as ever. No global warming there. You people really crack me up. They really suckered you, didn't they.





https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/1999/12/n_extn_hires-350x417.png

The extent of sea ice in the Arctic in Dec 2016 compered to 1981

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Dec 6, 2016 19:45:49   #
Nickolai
 
Ricko wrote:
ipnmajor-don't believe anyone questions Climate Change per se, but many have doubts that it is caused by man. As usual the answer probably lies in "following the money". Good Luck America !!!





Yes follow the money Tens hundreds of billions of dollars is aid by corporations who have a stake in the fossil fuel industry toward organization who pedal anti anthropogenic global climate change propaganda

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Dec 6, 2016 20:06:23   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
The polar ice caps are just as healthy as ever. No global warming there. You people really crack me up. They really suckered you, didn't they.


Weather in general has changed in the us.Iv lived in Georgia 25 yrs when I first started coming winter was rain. It rained when we got here and it was raining when we left that was winter.Then it started we didnt get hardly any rain we were in a drought. After 2 year it gave way and started raining but not like before we had snow at least every 7 yrs.Now we get snow at least 1-2 weeks in winter so I dont know about any one else but I'd say that yes things are changing. And I guess we all need to get use to it I thought I had gotten away from the snow It seems to be following me

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Dec 6, 2016 20:25:58   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Nickolai wrote:
https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/1999/12/n_extn_hires-350x417.png

The extent of sea ice in the Arctic in Dec 2016 compered to 1981


So, what is the normal amount if ice we should be seeing? You do know that that we are coming out of the Little Ice Age, right? What we are seeing are temperatures returning to normal. In fact, it used to be warmer than it is now. In Iceland, they used to have a thriving agricultural industry. That means it was warmer. Warm is good. Or would you rather experience another year without a Summer, like we had in the 18th century. Millions starved, because we couldn't grow any crops. Is that what you want?

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Dec 6, 2016 20:28:38   #
Mr Bombastic
 
bggamers wrote:
Weather in general has changed in the us.Iv lived in Georgia 25 yrs when I first started coming winter was rain. It rained when we got here and it was raining when we left that was winter.Then it started we didnt get hardly any rain we were in a drought. After 2 year it gave way and started raining but not like before we had snow at least every 7 yrs.Now we get snow at least 1-2 weeks in winter so I dont know about any one else but I'd say that yes things are changing. And I guess we all need to get use to it I thought I had gotten away from the snow It seems to be following me
Weather in general has changed in the us.Iv lived ... (show quote)


The climate changes. That's what it does. It's been doing it since time began. It doesn't need our help.

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Dec 6, 2016 20:29:28   #
Nickolai
 
oldroy wrote:
Why was the weather phenomenon called Global Warming when the UN first put out the story? I don't remember the Climate Change story until the UN and our left changed from Global Warming. Youse guys just keep changing the story to fit the new one.







Global warming contributes to more water vapor from the sea which his a green house gas in it self. Storms carry more moisture making storms more intense and a drought next door. Rising temps in the Arctic mess with the jet stream and it gets stuck in one place with less movement. The oceans absorb 95 % of the 30 billion tones that human beings dump into the atmosphere year in and year out. This is warming the deep ocean melting and thinning the ice In the arctic more open water absorbs the suns rays instead of reflecting them back into space. The carbon in the ocean is lowering the PH factor and acidifying the oceans causing Coral to die and bleach out al lover the world including as scientist 165 miles of the great barrier reef in Australia. Increased acidifying of the seas makes it more difficult for oysters, shrimp, clams and other crustaceans to form their shells. If the tiny crustaceans at the bottom of the food chain cannot form their shells they will be unable to live and reproduce and it that happens all life In the sea will also cease to exist. So Global warming is the biggest threat to our own species. The earth will survive
It has survived much hotter temps but ice core examples from Antarctica and Greenland tells us our species has never lived through such temps that are projected. The biosphere of this planet is delicately balanced and humans have come to over populate the planet with our activities upsetting the balance. The oil and gas and coal was trapped in the earths crust for 300 million to 600 million years ago and Humans have been burning it and releasing the carbon locked up into the environment since the invention of the steal engine.

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Dec 6, 2016 20:33:34   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
moldyoldy wrote:
There are many factors but man has accelerated the process greatly.


How about a source for that bit of info? Considering that Jupiter and Saturn affect climate http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12665-014-3694-7 as does the Sun and its' changing cycles. Added the Melankovich orbital long tern cycles, we get climate change, happening no matter what we do or think. http://www.indiana.edu/~geol105/images/gaia_chapter_4/milankovitch.htm and
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/10/suns-energy-output-may-have-led-to-marked-natural-climate-change-in-europe-over-the-last-1000-years/ yet 8t is still not entirely nailed down s the cycles are long and all reactions are not instant, but spread out over decades and centuries.....

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Dec 6, 2016 20:49:19   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
I have yet to see Moldy make an intelligent comment. He is probably the dumbest person on this site. A gnat has a higher IQ.

Boy oh boy do you have that right. Maybe he is a paid troll, no one is THAT stupid, are they?

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Dec 6, 2016 20:49:58   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Nickolai wrote:
Global warming contributes to more water vapor from the sea which his a green house gas in it self. Storms carry more moisture making storms more intense and a drought next door. Rising temps in the Arctic mess with the jet stream and it gets stuck in one place with less movement. The oceans absorb 95 % of the 30 billion tones that human beings dump into the atmosphere year in and year out. This is warming the deep ocean melting and thinning the ice In the arctic more open water absorbs the suns rays instead of reflecting them back into space. The carbon in the ocean is lowering the PH factor and acidifying the oceans causing Coral to die and bleach out al lover the world including as scientist 165 miles of the great barrier reef in Australia. Increased acidifying of the seas makes it more difficult for oysters, shrimp, clams and other crustaceans to form their shells. If the tiny crustaceans at the bottom of the food chain cannot form their shells they will be unable to live and reproduce and it that happens all life In the sea will also cease to exist. So Global warming is the biggest threat to our own species. The earth will survive
It has survived much hotter temps but ice core examples from Antarctica and Greenland tells us our species has never lived through such temps that are projected. The biosphere of this planet is delicately balanced and humans have come to over populate the planet with our activities upsetting the balance. The oil and gas and coal was trapped in the earths crust for 300 million to 600 million years ago and Humans have been burning it and releasing the carbon locked up into the environment since the invention of the steal engine.
Global warming contributes to more water vapor fro... (show quote)


If all of you liberals killed yourselves, it would really help the climate. Dead people don't produce greenhouse gasses. If you really cared about the planet, you would slit your throat. So, what are you waiting for?

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Dec 6, 2016 20:58:59   #
moldyoldy
 
peter11937 wrote:
Boy oh boy do you have that right. Maybe he is a paid troll, no one is THAT stupid, are they?


http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/nov/20/90-companies-man-made-global-warming-emissions-climate-change

http://oilprice.com/The-Environment/Global-Warming/Why-Oil-Companies-Dont-Want-us-Talking-about-Climate-Change.html

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Dec 6, 2016 21:16:18   #
righty Loc: Tenn
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
The polar ice caps are just as healthy as ever. No global warming there. You people really crack me up. They really suckered you, didn't they.


They are a funny group of non thinkers aren't they. Just tickles me to read their posts.

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Dec 6, 2016 22:43:28   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The only people in the world to deny climate change, seem to be conservatives and their Koch brothers minions.


Come on, moldy one. There are a number of weather people in the flyover area who never were fooled by the UN money thrown around with their hockey stick.

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Dec 6, 2016 22:47:10   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Reference_Docs/PMichaels_Jun98.pdf

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Reference_Docs/The_Geologic_Record_and_Climate_Change.pdf

http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/index.php?option=com_content&id=571

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Reference_Docs/essenhigh_may01_view.pdf

Well now, here's some disagreement with your sources, all attributed o actual PHD's in the field and without the phony propaganda photographs showing steam from cooling towers. As you should know CO2 is invisible in the atmosphere and still does not drive climate change. It is the Sun that drives climate change and is driving it today too.

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Dec 7, 2016 00:10:26   #
moldyoldy
 
oldroy wrote:
Come on, moldy one. There are a number of weather people in the flyover area who never were fooled by the UN money thrown around with their hockey stick.


Of course, but they listen to AM radio conspiracy shows.

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