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Nov 24, 2016 08:42:13   #
rebob14
 
slatten49 wrote:
Five proofs of evolution

In this article, we look at five simple examples which support the Theory of Evolution

by Richard Peacock

1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.

2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.

3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats, 80% with cows, 75% with mice, and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.

4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other.

In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations.

When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.

References: National Geographic - Gene Study
Wikipedia - Chordate
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Google....'evidenceofevolution' This article is the 6th on the listing of sites, if you're seeking evidence. Each will believe as they choose.
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Yup............and............genes come from?..............and..........semi-autonomous life form (cells) agree to assemble themselves into various shapes and functionalities at their direction because?????..

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Nov 24, 2016 10:17:18   #
Homestead
 
badbobby wrote:
I for one can consider evolution as true
and still believe in God


If one believes in God, then he believes that God created all things and that would include evolution.

Evolution is a man made word that describes certain traits he sees in the fossil record.

If God decided to give plants and animals away to adapt, who are we to question him?

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Nov 24, 2016 11:46:47   #
Nickolai
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Five proofs of evolution

In this article, we look at five simple examples which support the Theory of Evolution

by Richard Peacock

1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.

IT CAN ALSO BE EVIDENCE OF A COMMON CREATOR. IT MAY ALSO BE THE ONLY WAY THAT LIFE COULD EXIST.

2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.

THIS IS A BUNCH OF BOLOGNA. SERIOUSLY! THE FOSSIL RECORD IS SO FULL OF HOLES, AND THE GEOLOGIC COLUMN IS OUT OF ORDER IN MANY PLACES, WITH EARLY LIFE FORMS APPEARING AFTER THEY WERE SUPPOSEDLY EXTINCT, AND LATER ONES APPEARING BEFORE THEY SUPPOSEDLY EVOLVED.

3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats, 80% with cows, 75% with mice, and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.

IT PROVES NOTHING. THAT'S LIKE LOOKING AT AN IPAD AND COMING TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT EVOLVED FROM AN IPHONE. SIMILAR DNA IS NOT EVIDENCE OF A COMMON ANCESTOR. AND THE DNA IS NOT AS SIMILAR AS SOME WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE. THAT TINY DIFFERENCE REPRESENTS MILLIONS OF CHANGES IN THE DNA. ALSO, GOOGLE THE Y CHROMOSOME OF PRIMATES.THE DIFFERENCES ARE VERY PROFOUND BETWEEN OUR SUPPOSED ANCESTORS AND OURSELVES..

4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other.

In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.

OH, FOR PETES SAKE! NOT THIS AGAIN! PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH ON THIS. IT'S COMPLETE GARBAGE.

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations.

When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.

MORE GARBAGE. BACTERIA DOES NOT EVOLVE. WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF BACTERIA ARE NOT ABLE TO INGEST THE ANTIBIOTIC. THUS, IT CANNOT KILL THEM. IT IS THE RESULT OF GENETIC DAMAGE. THE ONES THAT CANNOT INGEST IT REPRODUCE. THUS THEY ARE IMMUNE TO THE ANTIBIOTIC. NO EVOLUTION IS INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. THEIR DNA DOES NOT CHANGE. THEY SIMPLY ARE UNABLE TO INGEST THE POISON THAT'S SUPPOSED TO KILL THEM.

References: National Geographic - Gene Study
Wikipedia - Chordate

I THOUGHT YOU WERE MORE INTELLIGENT THAN THIS. PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU MAKE SUCH BOLD CLAIMS.
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What more do you want does he have to hit you in the head to get your attention

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Nov 24, 2016 11:56:40   #
Nickolai
 
America Only wrote:
I am still waiting to see a dog that has gills and swims in the ocean for it's food....if evolution in the true sense exists, there would be NOTHING halting it so where are the half between one species to another? However we do have existing life that have been basically the same for millions of years (per biologist and other experts)...sharks.....crocodiles...alligators.....now lets consider...do we see any of those species flying around? Any leaping from one tree to the next? Even one of those seen lately cruising down the main street of a city skateboarding? Riding a bike? NO? Humm....well then there goes your evolution theory right down the tube!
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Meet the ancestor of Whales a land creature that adapted to making its living in the sea and gradually the fore limbs evolved in to flippers and the hind legs shrunk to where they are no longer visible but re small bones near the tail attached to the pelvis



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Nov 24, 2016 12:06:26   #
Nickolai
 
America Only wrote:
It's the old chicken and egg routine...which came first???? Hell, it does not matter just make my eggs sunny side up....4 sausage patties, rye toast...three pancakes...maple syrup and a tall glass of cold as all hell orange juice....I will wait to see if those pancakes evolve into anything while cutting them up and pouring on the maple syrup......







The egg came first to answer your question

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Nov 24, 2016 12:14:13   #
Nickolai
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
I asked for scientific evidence, not commentary. I've seen all of this before, and there are other explanations for the evidence. It all boils down to your world view. For instance, similar DNA, as I mentioned before, is evidence of a common Creator. Can you say that it isn't? What evidence supports such a belief? You see, there is no hard evidence that evolution ever happened. There are no scientific experiments that can be performed on it. It's historical science. In other words, someone looks at evidence then makes a conclusion based on non scientific principles. It is someones opinion. Nothing more. Evolutionists use scientific disciplines, like biology, chemistry...etc. But the conclusions they reach are based on non scientific opinions. An atheist looks at similar DNA and believes in evolution. A Christian looks at it and sees a Creator. There is no proof for either position. It's all a matter of faith.
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There is absolutely no evidence for a creator NONE but faith. Science on the other hand provides evidence and a way of understanding the natural world that surrounds us

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Nov 24, 2016 12:47:04   #
Homestead
 
Nickolai wrote:
There is absolutely no evidence for a creator NONE but faith. Science on the other hand provides evidence and a way of understanding the natural world that surrounds us


"Science on the other hand provides evidence and a way of understanding the natural world that surrounds us."

So does religion.

Science hasn't figured out what gravity is yet.
Where does it come from and how does it work.

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Nov 24, 2016 13:49:06   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
robmull wrote:
When I see an ape who can read on a pre-K level, Mr. B, I will figure that God planned it that way!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!! GOD BLESSED AMERICA!!! Now; "DRAIN THAT SWAMP!!!"


Rob, look up Koop the female gorilla. Gorilla vocal chords and TMJ articulation precludes verbal speech, but Koop has a sign language vocabulary equivalent to a 3 year old human, and in fact can carry on a discussion including abstracts.

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Nov 24, 2016 13:50:55   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Rob, look up Koop the female gorilla. Gorilla vocal chords and TMJ articulation precludes verbal speech, but Koop has a sign language vocabulary equivalent to a 3 year old human, and in fact can carry on a discussion including abstracts.


Spellcheck again.

Koko the gorilla.

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Nov 24, 2016 14:44:00   #
Hogback
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
I've heard this phrase many times. People mention this mountain of evidence for evolution. Well, here is your chance to provide this evidence. Show me just one piece of scientific evidence that proves the theory of evolution. I bet you can't. In fact, there is no physical evidence that proves a common ancestor for life. There is no evidence that living things can, through mutations, evolve into another kind of life. Lizards did not become birds. Fish did not grow legs and a set of lungs, and walk onto dry land. Life did not arise from lifeless chemicals. There is no evidence that any of that ever happened. At least I've never seen any. I keep hearing about it, but I've never seen it. So let's see this evidence. No deflections or insults allowed. Just show us the evidence.
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If the evolutionist could just prove how something could just spontaneously spring existence from absolutely nothing they would have a better argument. Science says everything has to have a first cause. And even if something sprang into existence where did it appear? Outer space? Who made the space? Empty space is not really empty. Who made space and time?

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Nov 24, 2016 15:22:30   #
Homestead
 
Hogback wrote:
If the evolutionist could just prove how something could just spontaneously spring existence from absolutely nothing they would have a better argument. Science says everything has to have a first cause. And even if something sprang into existence where did it appear? Outer space? Who made the space? Empty space is not really empty. Who made space and time?


That's the same question for both arguments.

Where did God come from?.........................He was always here.

Where did molecules come from?.......... They were always here.

One thing is for certain, when the bombs are falling like rain, "There are no atheists in fox holes."

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Nov 24, 2016 16:06:52   #
KiraSeer2016
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
I've heard this phrase many times. People mention this mountain of evidence for evolution. Well, here is your chance to provide this evidence. Show me just one piece of scientific evidence that proves the theory of evolution. I bet you can't. In fact, there is no physical evidence that proves a common ancestor for life. There is no evidence that living things can, through mutations, evolve into another kind of life. Lizards did not become birds. Fish did not grow legs and a set of lungs, and walk onto dry land. Life did not arise from lifeless chemicals. There is no evidence that any of that ever happened. At least I've never seen any. I keep hearing about it, but I've never seen it. So let's see this evidence. No deflections or insults allowed. Just show us the evidence.
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How can you not believe in evolution? Not believing in evolution is like not believing in God. And there is proof in space-time-material reality for evolution.

Evolution, you see, is God's way of producing a robust people for a robust planet.

You've been sucked into the atheist's argument that you can't believe in both God and evolution at the same time. They just do that to make you appear ignorant.

As you do.

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Nov 24, 2016 16:09:58   #
KiraSeer2016
 
You all need to go back and read my topic: The Big Bank Theory: http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-30030-1.html

It was supposed to be "The Big Bang Theory" but something went wrong.

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Nov 24, 2016 17:47:27   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
How can you not believe in evolution? Not believing in evolution is like not believing in God. And there is proof in space-time-material reality for evolution.

Evolution, you see, is God's way of producing a robust people for a robust planet.

You've been sucked into the atheist's argument that you can't believe in both God and evolution at the same time. They just do that to make you appear ignorant.

As you do.


I don't understand the controversy.

Some are trying to apply.their logic to God. They attempt to make Him follow what they see as logic and their view of.life.

I have no problem at all in knowing that my mind cannot conceive of God's thoughts and methods. As far as I'm concerned, existence is not a chance accident. It is organized and has a purpose. The fact that man does not have all the answers in no way cancels.those answers out. They happen to be unknown.

Is it such a difficult task to allow God the power to decide how he wanted to create? Is He finished or is he still creating somewhere? Did He create llife, then evolution to allow this life to grow to know Him regardless of.time involved or trials and tribulations during the journey? If so, why? Can we even comprehend His motives for doing as He does? Is it possible that through evolution God has given man the true path to Him?

Do we in truth know God is all.powerful? If we do, is it possible for our finite mind to grasp God's work beyond the obvious?

The God I know created all. How He did it is beyond my ability to comprehend. What I do know is that He does what He does because it is part of His plan. To limit His work and will is too arrogant for my perception of Him.

If it pleased God to provide evolution for His purposes, who am I to deny it?

It is not my place to contain or limit God. It is my place to accept and obey Him.

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Nov 24, 2016 19:40:53   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
JFlorio wrote:
The only chance I see of evolution being proved is tdsnest does seem to be closely related to primordial sludge.


Doesn't that prove a lack of evolution?

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