snowbear37 Loc: MA.

I believe that every President (and politician) has lied to the public at one time or another. Their goal is to get elected by a voting public with different views and ideas. The trick is to satisfy the biggest block of voters that will get them elected. To do that, they either outright lie or misrepresent the truth. As far as "alpha personalities" are concerned, I think that is a requirement for anyone who even thinks about becoming the President of the United States.

snowbear37 Loc: MA.

As I have opined in another post, I believe that all politicians lie at one time or another, however, to credit anyone with a "lie" about WMDs in Iraq is in itself a "lie". Saddam used gas on the Kurds. It's documented and publicized. Mustard gas is a WMD, it was in Iraq, thousands died. I think the difference (with regard to politicians lying), is the frequency and "consequences" of the lies. That being said, the present administration should get some sort of prize for the most frequent and consequential lies to the public. By that I mean not just the President, but many of his staff as well as Congress.

ibKelly

[quote=Dave]Here's his half-brother ... Those folks who oppose Obama think he's lying about things like that, I don't.

Remember, he was able to attend Rev Wright's church for 20 years and never remembered a thing that the Rev preached. If he's perfected his selective memory to blot out 20 years, a few month of living with the uncle and a meeting years ago with the half brother are easyily done.quote]]


I doubt very seriously if Obama went to church EVERY SUNDAY for 20 years. If that's the case, how come he hasn't darkened any church house pews in just 5 years? Obama has a habit of reliving (not believing) his own lies. He seems to do things that benefit him... and if there was another job higher than the Presidency, he'll be going to church every single week and even on Wed night prayer service, too.

He has no one to account to for his leisures. He doesn't give a rip what people think of him.... he's gonna take as many vacations he wants, spend all taxpayers money he wants, play as much golf he wants, campaign as much as he wants... he doesnt give a rip about that Oval Office, cause he's already won it... to heck what anyone else thinks... After all, he's re-labeled it--- 'LMAO' -- [[ Lazy Man A**'s Office]]... as he struts out the door going to play golf or vacation at taxpayers' expense. He doesnt give a rip what you or I or Joe over there thinks. Remember, He's in POWER now and don'tcha forget it!!!!

campana

Obama has an agenda and it is not to make the USA a greater nation. Anything he does or says seems to follow the Cloward-Piven plan presented at Columbia University where Obama was a student.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

i am an elected public official. I have encountered politicians who lie stretch the truth and use scare tactics to serve their own agenda. It is sickening to see and more sickening when these folks become power diseased as their "dynastys" become entrenched. Term limits are very important in all levels of government. Honesty should not just be expected but demanded of all politicians. Cozy relationships with outside entitys seeking to enrich themselves must be broken up. I almost resigned but then stood and fought. Glad i did. The saying "you can't con an honest man" is true.

michaelskok

Believing him is one thing. Agreeing with him is another. I disagree with him like hell.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

dissagreeing is fine.good solutions can come from disagreements. Gridlock is what we now have. The health care law came at the wrong time. jobs are more important. thats my dissagreement. i also disagree with the disgracefull attacks our president has endured. As much as people who dislike him deny it race has about 50% to do with it. President Obama has never once even remotely pulled out the "race card" He's a better man than i am. keep posting you are ok.

joe1941

He plays the race card at every opportunity like "if I had a son he would look like Trayvon"! But if I mention anything like that I'm racist.

VladimirPee

Not sure I agree with the WMD issue. While of course we know it was not a true statement there was plenty of evidence at the time which supported WMD in Iraq not only from CIA but from Iraqi defectors. Even Iraqi Generals thought they had WMD.

I must admit I never heard of the Reagan claims to Begin that he liberated concentration camps. I have found no such quote using a Google Search. I would be interested in a source or link if you have one.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Okay this is a rough look at it not sugar coated.

I feel that you know as much about this stuff as I do.
Maybe even more. What is needed is to get a clean picture of just how the money system works. (Follow The Money)

The Fed & the banking system sucks money from the general public.

They do this by:

The Fed prints the money.

The government buys the money from the Fed with Treasury bonds.

Those bonds are the banking for the printed money.

The Government then pays interest on the bonds.

The Fed sells bonds to individuals & other governments.

The banks have made money in borrowing money from the Fed on one hand & buying treasury bonds earning money on the spread.

Most of what happens in the Fed is not open to the general public. The Fed does pay money to the government but it is not very open of just how much money they make & how much of that they pay out. For the most part the books are closed.

The IMF & most nations banking is tied together.

When we put money in a bank they have to set aside funds for reserves.

The percentage for checking, saving & CD vary.

At one time the rates were 16% for checking & 4% for savings.

That means that the bank could loan out S.84 on each $1.00
in checking accounts.

That is almost like printing money.

Is it fair to let people use your money in effect free.
Then change you fees to bank there.

I lack insight & the skill to put the words in good order.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

If and I say IF there were no WMD then it was the biggest scam ever pulled as democrats, republicans, world leaders all thought there were WMD.

stan3186

I agree with most everything that you are saying. I also will vote according to my conscience and a person's track record on voting as oppose to what they are espousing when in the public eye. This is the only true way to determine what you're voting for.

The only problem with our voting system is that I truly believe it is fully corrupted and the "winner" will be the choice of the people or organizations that control what the voting machine ultimately spits out. I know this would be extremely old-school (but I am 64 years old) but we need to go back to the paper ballot and manually count the ballots of each district in every state to come to a true People's choice candidate.

Until that happens I don't believe it really matters any longer how an individual votes. It doesn't really matter; the elections are fixed.

SeniorVerdad

SeniorVerdad

I can see your tongue is firmly implanted in your cheek on this one.

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

Yes: keep these thoughts to yourself...they are ridiculous....
back them up with some since of rational logic! Henry Hazlitt would fry you on your assessment!