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Nov 16, 2016 14:25:16   #
Big dog
 
boatbob2 wrote:
Loki,I believe that you are correct..........


Hanged until dead, that's the punishment for desertion and treason.

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Nov 16, 2016 15:03:50   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
pafret wrote:
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/11/14/officer-testifies-that-soldier-was-shot-search-bergdahl.html?ESRC=army_161114.nl

Officer Testifies That Soldier Was Shot During Search for Bergdahl


FORT BRAGG, N.C. — A military officer testified Monday that he saw another soldier shot in the head during the 2009 search for U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who's accused of endangering comrades by walking off his post in Afghanistan.

At the same hearing, an Army judge also agreed to delay Bergdahl's trial by several months until May 15, 2017.

Prosecutors are arguing that two wounded soldiers' injuries should be allowed as evidence to show Bergdahl's disappearance effectively put other military members in harm's way.

Bergdahl is charged with desertion and misbehavior before the enemy, the latter of which carries a maximum penalty of life in prison.

U.S. Air Force Maj. John Marx testified about a firefight that erupted as he and several others joined about 50 members of the Afghan National Army on a search for Bergdahl. They were attacked by enemy fighters near a town in Afghanistan on July 8, 2009.

Marx testified about fighting alongside U.S. Army National Guard Sgt. First Class Mark Allen, who was shot in the head during the firefight.

Prosecutors said Allen suffered a traumatic brain injury that left him in a wheel chair and unable to communicate. Another soldier had hand injuries and required surgery because of a rocket-propelled grenade.

Marx described the mission's sole purpose as to search for Bergdahl. He testified he was beside Allen as bullets flew.

"I looked at him, then I see a trickle of blood coming down his head," Marx testified. Asked where Allen was wounded, Marx pointed at his temples and said: "Right through his head."

Marx testified that he later carried Allen to the medevac helicopter, describing it as "probably one of the toughest things I've ever done in my life."

Bergdahl, dressed in a white shirt and blue pants, appeared stoic as he listened.

Marx and two others involved in the firefight said they came from another part of Afghanistan to take part in a hastily planned search mission. Their group, patrolling on foot, had run out of water but couldn't get more supplies before they came under attack.

U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Jason Walters testified that he ran toward Allen as rocket-propelled grenades exploded nearby with concussive force: "Everything went black, and I saw stars."

He said he was later able to get on a radio and call for air support.

Jonathan Morita, a former Army specialist, was nearby when an unexploded RPG slammed into the rifle he was holding. He said the injury was comparable to having his hand smashed by a hammer.

"I looked at it, and I thought: 'That's going to hurt in the morning.' I didn't feel it. Too much adrenaline," he said.

Walking out after his testimony, Morita glared at Bergdahl, but the defendant didn't appear to make eye contact.

Prosecutors have said evidence of the injuries will help them show that Bergdahl endangered his comrades, one of the elements of the misbehavior before the enemy charge.

Defense attorneys have argued that Bergdahl wasn't responsible for the injuries, writing in a motion earlier this year that: "Allen's injuries were directly caused by the Taliban, not by SGT Bergdahl."

More arguments on the matter are scheduled Tuesday. Asked after Monday's hearing whether evidence of the injuries belongs in the case, Bergdahl's attorney Eugene Fidell said the defense would address the matter Tuesday.

Also Monday, Army Col. Jeffery Nance decided to push the trial back to May after prosecutors requested a delay. They cited the pace at which they're able to get approval to give the defense classified evidence.

Defense attorneys told the judge they're still awaiting software and computers to more quickly review sensitive material.

Nance expressed frustration, saying he would call military officials as witnesses at a December pretrial hearing if the issues aren't resolved by then.

Bergdahl, who's from Hailey, Idaho, left his post in Afghanistan in 2009 and was held captive by the Taliban and its allies for five years. He has said he wanted to cause an alarm and draw attention to what he saw as problems with his unit. The Obama administration's decision to swap prisoners for his return was heavily criticized by some Republicans.
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He should be charged with desertion in the face of the enemy.

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Nov 16, 2016 17:33:44   #
Paybacktimeishere
 
Bow Bergdalh Update
Nothing Will Happen To Bergdalh, If He's
Released, The Martial, Right, Has Been A "Paper
Tiger" For So Long, They Won't Interfere With
This Traitor. However, If He "Pissed Off", The
Marxist, Left, For Any Reason, He Would Be "Toast". They Have Alway's Had The Lame,
MSM, AS Their Cheerleader's, & Mouth Piece.
That Is The Sad State, Of Our Country, After
8 yr.'s Of Fuzzy Wuzzy!

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Nov 16, 2016 17:45:40   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Paybacktimeishere wrote:
Bow Bergdalh Update
Nothing Will Happen To Bergdalh, If He's
Released, The Martial, Right, Has Been A "Paper
Tiger" For So Long, They Won't Interfere With
This Traitor. However, If He "Pissed Off", The
Marxist, Left, For Any Reason, He Would Be "Toast". They Have Alway's Had The Lame,
MSM, AS Their Cheerleader's, & Mouth Piece.
That Is The Sad State, Of Our Country, After
8 yr.'s Of Fuzzy Wuzzy!

We will see.

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Nov 17, 2016 00:12:48   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Loki wrote:
Bergdahl's trial has been postponed until after Obama leaves office. He's SOL.


Well Loki, some here are saying Obama can pardon Hillary before she is even charged. What's to stop him from doing the same for this scum?

I don't think he can pardon Hillary before she is charged, and I don't know if the president can interfere in a military proceeding, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him.bluff it.

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Nov 17, 2016 04:37:48   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Well Loki, some here are saying Obama can pardon Hillary before she is even charged. What's to stop him from doing the same for this scum?

I don't think he can pardon Hillary before she is charged, and I don't know if the president can interfere in a military proceeding, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him.bluff it.


Trump...executive order..."un do any Obama's Pardons"......case closed.

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Nov 17, 2016 07:34:06   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
America Only wrote:
Trump...executive order..."un do any Obama's Pardons"......case closed.


I think there may be some Supreme Court issues here. The Constitution gives explicit authority to Presidents to pardon. It does not address Executive orders and if a sitting president attempted to reverse a previous President's pardon then he abrogates the Constitution.

It is not clear that a President can pardon someone who is not indicted at least or convicted of a Federal Crime. Ford did that with the Nixon pardon but it was a certainty that Nixon would be impeached and convicted. Ford's motive at the time was to spare the nation the disgrace of having had a criminal as President after having a Vice President who was a convicted criminal. Everyone went along with this because Tricky Dick was forced out of office a year after his VP.

Nixon's Vice President, Spiro Agnew (Mr. nattering nabobs of negativity) was investigated by the United States Attorney for the District of Maryland on charges of extortion, tax fraud, bribery, and conspiracy. He was charged with having accepted bribes totaling more than $100,000 while holding office as Baltimore County Executive and those bribes continued into the Vice Presidency. He pled Nolo Contendre and served no time, he was forced to resign as VP as part of his sentence. He had been charged with one count of failing to report 29K of "income". (There is definitely not two sets of law for rulers and citizens). He however did not receive a pardon because it was a State Crime.

The Constitution doesn't give explicit power to provide blanket immunity for all federal crimes because that would be a license to steal. Even if limited to unknown crimes commited in a specific time frame it would seem to be harmful to the nation. Without an accusation (indictment) can the people accept a pardon? This would deprive those who were not insiders of the knowledge needed to select their leaders. We have seen how Hillary and her sycophants were proven to have lied by the FBI and bald-face lied again and said the FBI found that she told the truth.

My opinion is that an indictment, if not conviction, is needed before a President can pardon and Ford overstepped his authority.

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Nov 17, 2016 07:54:48   #
Paybacktimeishere
 
Howe Bergdahl Update
I Vouch For Firing Squad. BUT, He Would Be One, Of Many, That Have Committed
TREASON, Against The United States. Time
To CLEAN HOUSE!!!

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Nov 17, 2016 13:58:58   #
zillaorange
 
robmull wrote:
No doubt, recon. And "WE" are just referring to the Bergdahl exchange for 5 Islamic terrorist generals from "Gitmo;" not what harm those 5 generals have done to American forces since their release back into their occupation; "DEATH TO AMERICA!!!" Hummmmmmmm. Do you suppose they liked the trillion - with a "T," TRILLION DOLLAR$ worth of shiny new, snazzy military equipment "Barry" gave to the Sunni Iraqi forces, (D)eparted Iraq, {exactly on schedule}, and the Sunni Iraqi forces gave to the Sunni ISIS army our best. I bet those released/exchanged generals couldn't believe their eyes when they were able to jump on-board that mile long parade/caravan of black flag-waving Islamic terrorists driving hundreds of spiffy new American made heavy equipment vehicles; tanks and Humvees and 22 wheel troop carriers and transporters and jeeps and cannons and trailers and supplies and arms and ammunitions and explosives. Damn, it must have been as exciting and zestful to those released Gitmo Islamic generals as dying and going straight to hell!!! What a rush!!! Damn that makes me proud. Every time I see those mile long ISIS parades, with all those burning American flags and the multitude of "DEATH TO AMERICA" signs, I get all jiggy; and thank "Barry," from the bottom of my heart; as I'm sure our vastly (D)epleated armed forces does every day!!! Who could blame "US???" Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!!
No doubt, recon. And "WE" are just refe... (show quote)

provided aid & comfort to the enemy !!!

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Nov 17, 2016 14:00:52   #
zillaorange
 
Paybacktimeishere wrote:
Howe Bergdahl Update
I Vouch For Firing Squad. BUT, He Would Be One, Of Many, That Have Committed
TREASON, Against The United States. Time
To CLEAN HOUSE!!!


hopefully obummer's treason will never be brought to trial !

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Nov 17, 2016 15:28:03   #
Big dog
 
zillaorange wrote:
hopefully obummer's treason will never be brought to trial !


Why not ? If obama were to be tried and found guilty of high treason and executed it would go a long way in getting rid of the corruption in our government.

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Nov 17, 2016 15:47:37   #
.308 Remington S. R. Loc: Texas
 
Big dog, today punishment for desertion is a participation trophy, go figure. just sayin'

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Nov 17, 2016 16:03:57   #
Big dog
 
.308 Remington S. R. wrote:
Big dog, today punishment for desertion is a participation trophy, go figure. just sayin'


Uggghhh, I'm losing my hair. WTF .

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Nov 17, 2016 16:21:19   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Big dog wrote:
Uggghhh, I'm losing my hair. WTF .

Don't do that the participation trophy winners are the ones protesting and rioting, the penalty for treason is still death.

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Nov 17, 2016 16:27:04   #
Big dog
 
kenjay wrote:
Don't do that the participation trophy winners are the ones protesting and rioting, the penalty for treason is still death.


Phew.... Had me worried there.

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