As Washington Crumbles, This Senators Rise to the Presidency is Almost Assured (Page 4): I predict that impeachment of the POTUS will come to pass and there are going to be many (in...

Don DeHoff

hijinx60 wrote:

The Harvard Law Review which he was editor of, listed in his bio that he was born in Kenya and attending school on a foreign student scholarship. If this is true, he is a fraud POTUS, if it is false, then he defrauded the government by accepting the scholarship. Either way, he is a crook and not worthy of the office.

I predict that impeachment of the POTUS will come to pass and there are going to be many (in both parties) that are going to accompany him, for both acts of "commission and "omission"

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Don DeHoff wrote:

This is not the time for a female president or VP. About half of the landmass on this planet it either controlled or seriously influenced by Muslim men who consider women inferior to males---A lady president just could not get either the respect or a "fair shake" at any international negotiating table. We have many good conservative women, but they are not (yet) of the "Thatcher" experience.

I was jibing, Don. Michelle B and Sarah are jokes to Repubs & Dems alike...except for the TPs, of course.

Brian Devon

jonhatfield wrote:

Hey, Brian, all the angry white males left now are these plump old geezers like old school, old roy, blade, jetboy, banjo jack, & their twins who gang up on OPP sites pretending it's like the old days...you know, before 1860.

I think you are right. Their fantasies are that the U.S. could be just like "Gone with the Wind"...before the theatrical intermission. The second half of the film....not so much.
As an aside, when Clark Gable was playing Rhett Butler, he objected to the "colored only" signs on some of the studio restrooms. He told the director that he would walk if the signs weren't taken down. They were removed rather quickly.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

[qditto on that but i do get a kick out of their logic. try that cesspool jones out. i had lots of fun with him.uote=jonhatfield]Hey, Brian, all the angry white males left now are these plump old geezers like old school, old roy, blade, jetboy, banjo jack, & their twins who gang up on OPP sites pretending it's like the old days...you know, before 1860.[/quote]

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

fom wrote:

[qditto on that but i do get a kick out of their logic. try that cesspool jones out. i had lots of fun with him.uote=jonhatfield]Hey, Brian, all the angry white males left now are these plump old geezers like old school, old roy, blade, jetboy, banjo jack, & their twins who gang up on OPP sites pretending it's like the old days...you know, before 1860.

[/quote]

Plump old geezer? Another one of your distorted postings. Nothing new for you. At least I'm not a communist like you, pal.

Brian Devon

Mr Bill wrote:

Brian, you lost ALL credibility when you "quoted" Lindsey Graham.

I am not a member of the Lindsay Graham fan club. However the old chestnut applies: "Even a broken clock is right twice a day"!

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

OldSchool wrote:

Plump old geezer? Another one of your distorted postings. Nothing new for you. At least I'm not a communist like you, pal.

You mean you're really not plump like Rusho and don't get all redfaced as you slam-dunk your posts? But did you have to get all so angry about it to call me a commie? I know I shouldn't have been so rude to a poor old geezer hunched over his computer always so polite and never distorting anything. I keep forgetting you're of another old world. By the way, did you make it all the way to eighth grade in that one-room old school of yours? My mother taught one of those schools for 3 years.

Don DeHoff

jonhatfield wrote:

You mean you're really not plump like Rusho and don't get all redfaced as you slam-dunk your posts? But did you have to get all so angry about it to call me a commie? I know I shouldn't have been so rude to a poor old geezer hunched over his computer always so polite and never distorting anything. I keep forgetting you're of another old world. By the way, did you make it all the way to eighth grade in that one-room old school of yours? My mother taught one of those schools for 3 years.

Sir, why do you participate in the kid's game of "mental masturbation"? Go get your "kicks" somewhere else. Most readers are not in the least interested in your profanity, obnoxious nicknames and gutter talk.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Don DeHoff wrote:

Sir, why do you participate in the kid's game of "mental masturbation"? Go get your "kicks" somewhere else. Most readers are not in the least interested in your profanity, obnoxious nicknames and gutter talk.

I dare you to tell that to the rightwingnuts whose filth, gutter talk, and obnoxious nicknames inspire my somewhat mild imitations. They will call you every name in the book if you apply your scolding to them. By the way, did you have to go scatological about it? That's gutter talk with a capital G. Don't feel bad, since several of your fellow right wing extremists do the same thing all the time. Just look up Jetboy's cure for Dems posts. ha.

Snoopy

jonhatfield wrote:

I dare you to tell that to the rightwingnuts whose filth, gutter talk, and obnoxious nicknames inspire my somewhat mild imitations. They will call you every name in the book if you apply your scolding to them. By the way, did you have to go scatological about it? That's gutter talk with a capital G. Don't feel bad, since several of your fellow right wing extremists do the same thing all the time. Just look up Jetboy's cure for Dems posts. ha.

Jon

Your comment brings BoAxxHole to mind!

Snoopy

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I think you're a tuff old geezer. It makes for a fair fight. live long and prosper. Happy new year old school

Don DeHoff

jonhatfield wrote:

I dare you to tell that to the rightwingnuts whose filth, gutter talk, and obnoxious nicknames inspire my somewhat mild imitations. They will call you every name in the book if you apply your scolding to them. By the way, did you have to go scatological about it? That's gutter talk with a capital G. Don't feel bad, since several of your fellow right wing extremists do the same thing all the time. Just look up Jetboy's cure for Dems posts. ha.

Sir, I tell the rightwing groups every opportunity I get. I must have a couple thousand posts by now and I can assure you, I am as conservative as they come. The whole idea behind making a post or comment is to "communicate", and I see all too often, perfectly good on-subject comments being made, but then they are destroyed by the game of "mental masturbation". Most of that is instigated by the rightwing people who do their best to generate off-subject issues that they hope will take our focus off of the real issues of the day----and when you "accommodate" them, you unwittingly become "one of them". And, why pray tell, would you want to "imitate" them?

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Don DeHoff wrote:

Sir, I tell the rightwing groups every opportunity... (show quote)

Why? To mock them hoping they will see themselves for what they are. I alternate between mockery and discussion of serious issues. With the subject of this thread and several others posted on OPP by the extremist right, there's not much serious that can be said, so I focus on attack the attackers. Sometimes it turns the threads to debatable subjects, sometimes not. If you are truly serious about correcting those on the right when they do what you have scolded me for and not misrepresenting yourself, you are going to be very busy on OPP. ha. I have yet to see anyone of the right attempt to set straight the rudeness and filth typical with posts of the extreme right wing club on OPP. More difficult to correct are half-truths and misrepresentations that abound with the extremists' posts, and those arguing conspiracy fantasies are, to be blunt, outright delusional and have a considerable fan base.

My two main interests on OPP have been (1) analysis of rightwing extremism, something I was unfamiliar with and somewhat astonished by when I somewhat accidentally ran across postings on Newsmax and then ran across OPP. I have 2 threads I intend to photocopy and distribute to political science professors to use as examples of typical "rightwingnut" extremist thinking and argumentation--one titled "Dear Stupid Black People" and the other about "the crooked mainstream media." (2) Second interest has been recalling my own early political ideas and experiences that I have not had much occasion to think about for many years. Age 7 I was for Dewey over FDR (convinced by the hired girl over my mother's FDR vote--her only Dem vote the rest of her lifetime), fanatic anti-Truman '44, Taft fan '52, one of 2 fanatic McCarthyites in high school (1000 students), chose Hamilton Federalist over Jefferson Republican-Democrat in junior year American history class, outspoken for integration decision (family moved from rural Michigan to East Tennessee when I was 9 & as a "Yankee" was pro-integration...would like to think I would have been on principle but yankee partisanship was a factor--ha), voted 3 times for Nixon, not for Goldwater (thought he would pull a MacArthur in Nam), switched to Dem Reagan's 2nd term when I realized Reaganism was the present-day equivalent of Jacksonianism anti-federal action and the Dems the present-day equivalent of the Federalist-Whig-original GOP line of pragmatic federal action. Tea Party as equivalent of Jacksonian "populism" has reinforced my present Dem leaning. As grad student at UW-Madison I had interesting experience as the token Republican at Channing Murray boarding house, the unofficial headquarters of the campus Young Dems (convinced one to go GOP as the party pragmatically able to negotiate armament limitations), was also acquainted with leftists (was instrumental in informing on and having disbanded the UW SANE chapter that had been taken over by extreme leftists with unilateral nuclear disarmament story line, led to national committee disbanding all campus chapters following my argument that small number of extremist left fanatics could take over campus chapters as the Bolsheviks had taken over the Russian socialist movement and end up discrediting SANE's advocacy of mutual nuclear disarmament negotiation...later accomplished by Reagan). While always interested in politics, I've had little occasion to argue politics after I dropped out of the doctorate program I was in to take a position teaching high school English in rural northwestern Illinois. I see politics in terms of larger historical perspective...the development of self-government from development in Britain on edge of Europe & transfer in larger federal form in the new world to prevailance in Anglo-Saxon and Western Civilization in transitions from feudalism (with opposing dictatorial phases--Phillip of Spain, Louis XIV-Napoleon, Wilhelm-Hitler Nazism, Stalin-international communism, and current jihadism in Muslim world's transition from feudalism) to world civilization of freedom, individualism, and self-government...Britain as main defender & protagonist for civilization up to mid-twentieth century, torch passed to America after WWII. I see also in perspective of the brief previous civilization high points of Greek city democracies and Roman republic from reading the umpteen volumes of Gibbons The Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire, which by some remote chance were in Central High School's library. My chief interest besides general history has been antiques and collecting (hoarding--ha) decorative things, flower gardening, and the past thirteen years collecting Victorian and post-Victorian children art paper 1880-1930--a phenomenon of Western civilization (first civilization to have children as the subject of its popular art) and a reflection of the revolution in the status of women and children accomplished by the Victorians and a defining aspect of Western Civilization compared to all preceeding civilizations (and in contrast specifically to present muslim feudalism situation--their equivalent to the slavery-segregation-discrimination that we have at last overcome, largely, and the feudal situation Muslim society must overcome--"with all deliberate speed," which means as best they can and hopefully with as much extraordinary achievement as we have had working through our seeming intractable race-class situation from the plantation transplantation of the old world feudal manorial system to new world America). Again, the Brits were ahead of us in children art and the revolution in status of women and children but again new world America gave new dimensions and development to it.

As you can see, my focus in politics is general historical perspective and developments rather than immediate specific details of politics or even specific historical details...a somewhat eccentric viewpoint accidental life circumstances gave me, plus mild degree of inherited Asperger's syndrome. ha. Rather off the subject of this even more "eccentric" Cruz thread we're on that I can't take seriously and see only as an old school joke but which apparently you do take seriously as a problem for the right side of politics. I hope that explains to you as newcomer to OPP my situation. I take it from your statement about some 2000 posts that you have been on other political sites, perhaps over some period of time. There are several commentators here with over 4000 posts on OPP, and equal on other sites...all rightwingnuts and proven misrepresenters and fabricators of story lines, by the way--conspiracy fantasies, foul language, filth, insults, and all the usual twistings. You probably have run into them in other comment sites. They pretty well dominate OPP--and I would imagine they or their fellow travelers predominate on most comment sites--a rather interesting internet phenomenon. ha.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I have to admit I have gotten into some battles with the righties here and enjoyed it. It does tend to bother some folks on the site who wish for cordial debate and dicussion. I only get into it when abused called gay because I live in Oregon and here is the first time I have been called a libtard.. I tried being nice to some of the more arguementive righties and maybe its working. I try to stay off discussions where the jerks are but if one bothers me and won't play nice then it's game on. I won't make it a practice to look for a fight since I like this site and want to be allowed on..

jonhatfield wrote:

Why? To mock them hoping they will see themselves for what they are. I alternate between mockery and discussion of serious issues. With the subject of this thread and several others posted on OPP by the extremist right, there's not much serious that can be said, so I focus on attack the attackers. Sometimes it turns the threads to debatable subjects, sometimes not. If you are truly serious about correcting those on the right when they do what you have scolded me for and not misrepresenting yourself, you are going to be very busy on OPP. ha. I have yet to see anyone of the right attempt to set straight the rudeness and filth typical with posts of the extreme right wing club on OPP. More difficult to correct are half-truths and misrepresentations that abound with the extremists' posts, and those arguing conspiracy fantasies are, to be blunt, outright delusional and have a considerable fan base.

My two main interests on OPP have been (1) analysis of rightwing extremism, something I was unfamiliar with and somewhat astonished by when I somewhat accidentally ran across postings on Newsmax and then ran across OPP. I have 2 threads I intend to photocopy and distribute to political science professors to use as examples of typical "rightwingnut" extremist thinking and argumentation--one titled "Dear Stupid Black People" and the other about "the crooked mainstream media." (2) Second interest has been recalling my own early political ideas and experiences that I have not had much occasion to think about for many years. Age 7 I was for Dewey over FDR (convinced by the hired girl over my mother's FDR vote--her only Dem vote the rest of her lifetime), fanatic anti-Truman '44, Taft fan '52, one of 2 fanatic McCarthyites in high school (1000 students), chose Hamilton Federalist over Jefferson Republican-Democrat in junior year American history class, outspoken for integration decision (family moved from rural Michigan to East Tennessee when I was 9 & as a "Yankee" was pro-integration...would like to think I would have been on principle but yankee partisanship was a factor--ha), voted 3 times for Nixon, not for Goldwater (thought he would pull a MacArthur in Nam), switched to Dem Reagan's 2nd term when I realized Reaganism was the present-day equivalent of Jacksonianism anti-federal action and the Dems the present-day equivalent of the Federalist-Whig-original GOP line of pragmatic federal action. Tea Party as equivalent of Jacksonian "populism" has reinforced my present Dem leaning. As grad student at UW-Madison I had interesting experience as the token Republican at Channing Murray boarding house, the unofficial headquarters of the campus Young Dems (convinced one to go GOP as the party pragmatically able to negotiate armament limitations), was also acquainted with leftists (was instrumental in informing on and having disbanded the UW SANE chapter that had been taken over by extreme leftists with unilateral nuclear disarmament story line, led to national committee disbanding all campus chapters following my argument that small number of extremist left fanatics could take over campus chapters as the Bolsheviks had taken over the Russian socialist movement and end up discrediting SANE's advocacy of mutual nuclear disarmament negotiation...later accomplished by Reagan). While always interested in politics, I've had little occasion to argue politics after I dropped out of the doctorate program I was in to take a position teaching high school English in rural northwestern Illinois. I see politics in terms of larger historical perspective...the development of self-government from development in Britain on edge of Europe & transfer in larger federal form in the new world to prevailance in Anglo-Saxon and Western Civilization in transitions from feudalism (with opposing dictatorial phases--Phillip of Spain, Louis XIV-Napoleon, Wilhelm-Hitler Nazism, Stalin-international communism, and current jihadism in Muslim world's transition from feudalism) to world civilization of freedom, individualism, and self-government...Britain as main defender & protagonist for civilization up to mid-twentieth century, torch passed to America after WWII. I see also in perspective of the brief previous civilization high points of Greek city democracies and Roman republic from reading the umpteen volumes of Gibbons The Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire, which by some remote chance were in Central High School's library. My chief interest besides general history has been antiques and collecting (hoarding--ha) decorative things, flower gardening, and the past thirteen years collecting Victorian and post-Victorian children art paper 1880-1930--a phenomenon of Western civilization (first civilization to have children as the subject of its popular art) and a reflection of the revolution in the status of women and children accomplished by the Victorians and a defining aspect of Western Civilization compared to all preceeding civilizations (and in contrast specifically to present muslim feudalism situation--their equivalent to the slavery-segregation-discrimination that we have at last overcome, largely, and the feudal situation Muslim society must overcome--"with all deliberate speed," which means as best they can and hopefully with as much extraordinary achievement as we have had working through our seeming intractable race-class situation from the plantation transplantation of the old world feudal manorial system to new world America). Again, the Brits were ahead of us in children art and the revolution in status of women and children but again new world America gave new dimensions and development to it.

As you can see, my focus in politics is general historical perspective and developments rather than immediate specific details of politics or even specific historical details...a somewhat eccentric viewpoint accidental life circumstances gave me, plus mild degree of inherited Asperger's syndrome. ha. Rather off the subject of this even more "eccentric" Cruz thread we're on that I can't take seriously and see only as an old school joke but which apparently you do take seriously as a problem for the right side of politics. I hope that explains to you as newcomer to OPP my situation. I take it from your statement about some 2000 posts that you have been on other political sites, perhaps over some period of time. There are several commentators here with over 4000 posts on OPP, and equal on other sites...all rightwingnuts and proven misrepresenters and fabricators of story lines, by the way--conspiracy fantasies, foul language, filth, insults, and all the usual twistings. You probably have run into them in other comment sites. They pretty well dominate OPP--and I would imagine they or their fellow travelers predominate on most comment sites--a rather interesting internet phenomenon. ha.

Why? To mock them hoping they will see themselves ... (show quote)

Don DeHoff

jonhatfield wrote:

Why? To mock them hoping they will see themselves for what they are. I alternate between mockery and discussion of serious issues. With the subject of this thread and several others posted on OPP by the extremist right, there's not much serious that can be said, so I focus on attack the attackers. Sometimes it turns the threads to debatable subjects, sometimes not. If you are truly serious about correcting those on the right when they do what you have scolded me for and not misrepresenting yourself, you are going to be very busy on OPP. ha. I have yet to see anyone of the right attempt to set straight the rudeness and filth typical with posts of the extreme right wing club on OPP. More difficult to correct are half-truths and misrepresentations that abound with the extremists' posts, and those arguing conspiracy fantasies are, to be blunt, outright delusional and have a considerable fan base.

My two main interests on OPP have been (1) analysis of rightwing extremism, something I was unfamiliar with and somewhat astonished by when I somewhat accidentally ran across postings on Newsmax and then ran across OPP. I have 2 threads I intend to photocopy and distribute to political science professors to use as examples of typical "rightwingnut" extremist thinking and argumentation--one titled "Dear Stupid Black People" and the other about "the crooked mainstream media." (2) Second interest has been recalling my own early political ideas and experiences that I have not had much occasion to think about for many years. Age 7 I was for Dewey over FDR (convinced by the hired girl over my mother's FDR vote--her only Dem vote the rest of her lifetime), fanatic anti-Truman '44, Taft fan '52, one of 2 fanatic McCarthyites in high school (1000 students), chose Hamilton Federalist over Jefferson Republican-Democrat in junior year American history class, outspoken for integration decision (family moved from rural Michigan to East Tennessee when I was 9 & as a "Yankee" was pro-integration...would like to think I would have been on principle but yankee partisanship was a factor--ha), voted 3 times for Nixon, not for Goldwater (thought he would pull a MacArthur in Nam), switched to Dem Reagan's 2nd term when I realized Reaganism was the present-day equivalent of Jacksonianism anti-federal action and the Dems the present-day equivalent of the Federalist-Whig-original GOP line of pragmatic federal action. Tea Party as equivalent of Jacksonian "populism" has reinforced my present Dem leaning. As grad student at UW-Madison I had interesting experience as the token Republican at Channing Murray boarding house, the unofficial headquarters of the campus Young Dems (convinced one to go GOP as the party pragmatically able to negotiate armament limitations), was also acquainted with leftists (was instrumental in informing on and having disbanded the UW SANE chapter that had been taken over by extreme leftists with unilateral nuclear disarmament story line, led to national committee disbanding all campus chapters following my argument that small number of extremist left fanatics could take over campus chapters as the Bolsheviks had taken over the Russian socialist movement and end up discrediting SANE's advocacy of mutual nuclear disarmament negotiation...later accomplished by Reagan). While always interested in politics, I've had little occasion to argue politics after I dropped out of the doctorate program I was in to take a position teaching high school English in rural northwestern Illinois. I see politics in terms of larger historical perspective...the development of self-government from development in Britain on edge of Europe & transfer in larger federal form in the new world to prevailance in Anglo-Saxon and Western Civilization in transitions from feudalism (with opposing dictatorial phases--Phillip of Spain, Louis XIV-Napoleon, Wilhelm-Hitler Nazism, Stalin-international communism, and current jihadism in Muslim world's transition from feudalism) to world civilization of freedom, individualism, and self-government...Britain as main defender & protagonist for civilization up to mid-twentieth century, torch passed to America after WWII. I see also in perspective of the brief previous civilization high points of Greek city democracies and Roman republic from reading the umpteen volumes of Gibbons The Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire, which by some remote chance were in Central High School's library. My chief interest besides general history has been antiques and collecting (hoarding--ha) decorative things, flower gardening, and the past thirteen years collecting Victorian and post-Victorian children art paper 1880-1930--a phenomenon of Western civilization (first civilization to have children as the subject of its popular art) and a reflection of the revolution in the status of women and children accomplished by the Victorians and a defining aspect of Western Civilization compared to all preceeding civilizations (and in contrast specifically to present muslim feudalism situation--their equivalent to the slavery-segregation-discrimination that we have at last overcome, largely, and the feudal situation Muslim society must overcome--"with all deliberate speed," which means as best they can and hopefully with as much extraordinary achievement as we have had working through our seeming intractable race-class situation from the plantation transplantation of the old world feudal manorial system to new world America). Again, the Brits were ahead of us in children art and the revolution in status of women and children but again new world America gave new dimensions and development to it.

As you can see, my focus in politics is general historical perspective and developments rather than immediate specific details of politics or even specific historical details...a somewhat eccentric viewpoint accidental life circumstances gave me, plus mild degree of inherited Asperger's syndrome. ha. Rather off the subject of this even more "eccentric" Cruz thread we're on that I can't take seriously and see only as an old school joke but which apparently you do take seriously as a problem for the right side of politics. I hope that explains to you as newcomer to OPP my situation. I take it from your statement about some 2000 posts that you have been on other political sites, perhaps over some period of time. There are several commentators here with over 4000 posts on OPP, and equal on other sites...all rightwingnuts and proven misrepresenters and fabricators of story lines, by the way--conspiracy fantasies, foul language, filth, insults, and all the usual twistings. You probably have run into them in other comment sites. They pretty well dominate OPP--and I would imagine they or their fellow travelers predominate on most comment sites--a rather interesting internet phenomenon. ha.

Why? To mock them hoping they will see themselves ... (show quote)

Sir, I do not comment for "record keeping" and I am not here to try and "outdo" anybody. I find that in most of these "mental masturbation" games, the original subject matter has long been forgotten by those who desperately feel they must comment, but actually have little or nothing, on subject, to say. And yes, there are those who are afflicted with Mark Twain "itis", wherein once they start writing (typing), they are too lazy to quit. After your first few lines, I set aside your "tirade" for a rainy day. Now can we get make to the original subject at hand?