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Ask yourself would you trust your daughter alone in the white House or anywhere with Bill Clinton? Secret service protesting for female interns

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

Granted, my theory is just that, a theory. However, the breadcrumbs are there.

Ok, with respect to the Republicans...

1) The division within the R party has been brewing for some time. The Tea Party is a result of that division spurred on by progressivism in both parties. However, Trump has revealed a whole sect of the R party that are not too bright and lean too easily towards national socialism (the party of Hitler and Mussolini). Trump is a national socialist (or at least in rhetoric). Frankly, I don't think that Trump really cares about politics at all (unless it's making him money), nor is he an ideologue. He tends to bend and morph into whatever suits him at the given moment. He's a carnival barker, a used car salesman, or they guy in the old west that would sell the magical elixir potion that cures all. That's Trump.

2) As for the Rebublicans obstructing Obama's agenda...So what? That's what the opposition party usually does. If Obama would've been more Bill Clinton-like, compromised and worked with the R congress, things would've moved along more often. But, Obama is a rigid ideologue and mocked and ridiculed the Republicans rather than work with them. It was his way or no way. So, it was no way. There's no way in hell you can blame congress for his intransigence.

3) "Just Win" - both sides are guilty of that mentality. The Republicans are eaten up with it. The establishment GOP and especially the Trumpsters care not for standards of civility, integrity, facts and truth, moral character, true conservative policy stances or anything else other than "winning". The Republican party of Reagan used to be the party of conservative principles and values, conservative policy platform, original intent of the Founders and staunch supporters and protectors of the constitution...but not anymore...which is why I'm no longer a Republican. We passed all those exits a long time ago. Now, they're the party of blind anger and winning...and moving rapidly towards national socialism. If there was one person that exemplifies the Trumpster movement, it's Charlie Sheen. Crazy and obsessed with winning.

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

Ahhhh, I knew that if I hung in there, I'd find at least one person that gets it. You, my friend, get it very clearly.

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

You're not entitled to your own "facts". If you and all of your Trumpster buddies want to live in this fantasy world where Trump is going to solve all of your problems and actually follow through with all of his proclamations, then go ahead and live there in Trumpland. You'll wake up to reality soon enough.

Meanwhile, spare me the Trumpster pretzel logic.

My vote is MY vote. It doesn't automatically belong to Trump or you or the Trumpster nation. It's MY vote. If Trump wants my vote he has to earn it. So far, he has failed miserably. I don't trust the man. He's as big of a liar as Hillary. Hillary's lies are only bigger because she was in a position of power in the government that effected many lives...4 of which were lost because of her. Nonetheless, Trump is just as big of a liar as she is, and if elected (of which I don't believe he will be), he will demonstrate just how big of a liar he is. Whether you choose to continue to live in the Trump fantasy and make excuses for him (like the Obamabots did for Obama) is up to you. But make no mistake about it, Trump will lie to you...just like he's doing every day on the campaign trail.

#NEVERTRUMP

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Vote what ever but facts are facts, no matter who they "belong" to. Admit it or not, you vote for any one else, write in anyone else, or even don't vote at all, and in essence, you are saying you are ok with Clinton as president.

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

"Who says Zemirah speaks for us?" - I don't know, you tell me? You Trumpsters just want to argue for argument's sake it would appear. Zemirah replied to one of my posts. I replied back. Then you jumped in...and here we are. You're operating off of a false assumption. (what else is new?)

If you think that standing on principle and voting one's conscience is bullshit, then that's fine. That's your opinion. You Trumpsters all seem to abide by your own set of "facts" that don't exist outside of your little bubble. If that's what you need to believe to sleep at night, more power to you. I, on the other hand, still live in a constitutional republic where my God-given right to vote, as I choose, is still protected under the constitution/bill of rights.

You're one of those Drudge, Breitbart and Alex Jones guys. That's where the term "tin foil hat" comes from. It's a damn shame what Drudge and Breitbart have turned into. I guarantee you that Andrew Breitbart would be furious at what has happened to his legacy. He was not what that organization has become.

Look, I get why you guys so desperately want Trump. Ok, I get the idea of why. But the problem is, Trump is a fake. He's not who you think he is. If he truly was that guy, I'd be on board with you. Maybe. But I clearly see that he's full of shit. And for the life of me, I can't understand why you Trumpsters can't see it. Now, saying that... I know that your knee-jerk response is, "Well, what about Hillary, huh? Hillary's the one that's full of shit!..blah, blah, blah..."

Yes, I know. Hillary oozes shit when she walks and talks. Saying that Hillary's full of shit is like saying trees are made of wood and water is wet. We all know that. It's Trump that has us divided, not Hillary. We can all unite against Hillary. We just can't all unite to support Trump. Therefore, my vote is going to the Constitution Party candidate - Darrell Castle. It will be Darrell's name, not Hillary's name that I vote for.

A vote for Darrell is a vote for Darrell. Saying that a vote for anyone other than Trump is a vote for Hillary indicates that my vote already belongs to Trump and that if I don't follow through, I'm stealing or cheating him out of his rightful vote simply because my political philosophy somewhat aligns with others that would vote for Trump. That's not how it works. There will be at least 3 other names on the ballot besides Trump and Clinton. That means choices. That means it's not binary. That means Trump ain't getting my vote. If you want to blame someone, blame Trump for failing to earn my vote.

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

My, my, my...doesn't take much to get you little jack-booted brown shirts riled up. Another Alex Jones disciple no doubt.

Let me get this straight: National socialism is the answer to stop multiculturalism? It might also end in gas chambers, but yes, it could be an answer to that one problem.

I care not what happens in Europe. I care what happens here on our shores. We have a constitution and laws. All we need is the will to enforce pre-existing laws. You don't need a national socialist in office to get that done. I think we've got enough black eyes from the mistakes of the past to last our country for a long time. We don't need to go down that road again that leads to internment camps or possibly worse.

It's pretty clear that you're in the Alt-Right camp. How's that any different than BLM? It's just the negative of the photograph.

No one could ever confuse you with a neo-Nazi, that's for sure. (sarc)

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Faugh! I'm a Deplorable! You couldn't possibly rise to my level of lowness!

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

So...votin' for Johnson?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

He probably is.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Qui, Toujours mon cher ami~~~

Paybacktimeishere

OldenMcgroen: Does Trump Represent ....etc..
Listen, National Socialism was a new form of Gov.'t, which rose to prominence, after
GERMANY, lost in WW1, oddly, Many of The Soldier's( Including A. Hitler), believed they were BETRAYED, by The Leftist, Liberal, Marxist,
BOLSHEVIK'S, running Amuck, behind the Line's,
back in Germany. Gee, kind of remind's me of
what happened to our Military, during, & after
The Vietnam War, which we Lost, so don't go
preaching this self Righteous," Hollier Than Thou",
BS to me. I was there! The War could have been Won! Let the " Chip's", fall where they may. Take a very close look at our Country, Do
You really believe, The Constitution, is being
honored by our so called, Elected Official's, in
This New Politically Correct, Leftist Nazi, Atmosphere, we are currently living under?
Remember this, National Socialism, may
actually work, in The Future, if Led by a responsible, DRUG FREE, Christian, Leader,
That still believe's, in Those Principle's, that
made America Great. Personally, I would loved,
To have had, FOUR NAZI, SS DIVISION'S, in
South Vietnam, as We Would have marched To,
& Stomped All Over HANOI!! You See These
Men, Had The PRIDE, THE WILL, & The Determination & Discipline ,TO WIN! There
was No Transgendered, MULTICULTURALISM,
Etc. Etc. affecting The Hard Core Morale, of
The Fighting Soldier's. So Stick That In Your
Pipe, & Smoke It!

Paybacktimeishere

Does Trump Represent Your ... Etc.
Never Killary! Liar, Liar, Benghazi's On Fire!!!
Hellary For Prison, as She, Nor Bill, are above
The Law!!! Oh yes, I Forgot, CHAPPAQUA, NY.
is 91% White. I want a 10,000 "Refugee", Horde to be sent there, ASAP!!! All, Progressive,
Muslim, Somalian's. That'll Give CHAPPAQUA,
NY., The Right, "Social Engineering", MIX. Especially since it's The Clinton's NY. Residence.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Had to look that one up.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....