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Aug 17, 2016 22:24:43   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
lindajoy wrote:
Having to live it because of that POS, narracissts main goal of induction of Socialism, yessssssss bmac I know exactly what you are saying!!

Then you idiots here who swear it's all good...No damn wonder our country is going to hell.. !!!!!


Amen. Unless someone is such a partisan they can't tell or see the truth you had to know the ACA was never about health care. It was about health insurance if you're a blind liberal and redistribution of working people's money if you have eyes to see and ears to hear.

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Aug 17, 2016 22:34:48   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Poppabear go have some porridge and go to sleep for a few months. You're frigging nuts.
poppabear42 wrote:
It is political...Aetna is pissed, because Obama won't allow them to take over Humana, or merge with Humana, because if he did they would monopolize the drug industry. So yes it is political, and greed.
You appear to be overjoyed that this is happening to Obamacare (name created by repukeblicans). What are you repukeblicans going to do to insure the millions of people that now have healthcare?
How can people like you be so damned determined, and low down, to hurt people that way? If Obamacare is such a disaster, so why don't you worthless, lazy assed, "DO NOTHING BUT BITCH" repukeblicans, either help Obama fix what is wrong with Obamacare, so that the people that need insurance, will have insurance?
If it takes money, stop stuffing our money into the rich man's pockets, and fix Obamacare.
Actually, many of the people that need Obamacare, are the majority of taxpayers.
So repukeblicans really should stop giving these real taxpayers money, to the rich people, and to those that can buy elections, but pay no tax.
One thing for sure, these tax payers would rather repukeblicans use their money, to help them to be insured, than see their money being used to buy some rich, non contributing S.O.B. a new yacht, or whatever.
So stop bitching, and get busy helping the people that pay your salary, and pay for your fu#$ing vacations.
Because at this point, the ONLY thing they are guaranteed is jail time if they don't pay the tax.
It is political...Aetna is pissed, because Obama w... (show quote)

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Aug 17, 2016 22:50:33   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
poppabear42 wrote:
What exactly do you mean by that?


I am having difficulty following what you are saying. I don't disagree, I can't follow your line of reasoning so I must be missing something.

Who are the republicans giving the tax money to, and which tax payers are angry about it?

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Aug 17, 2016 22:54:35   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Same thoughts I had. What is he talking about? I guess I'm an angry tax payer. I see the fake president on vacation again and I see our wonderful law makers on a seven week vacation but I keep working to pay their worthless hides. Come to think of it with all the idiots out of Washington the country might get something positive done.
Docadhoc wrote:
I am having difficulty following what you are saying. I don't disagree, I can't follow your line of reasoning so I must be missing something.

Who are the republicans giving the tax money to, and which tax payers are angry about it?

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Aug 17, 2016 22:56:44   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
permafrost wrote:
AO,

Having a bad day? You are even more of a stupid asshole then usual..

And you have a negative effect on some of us... See, you prick, you made me lose it and call you names. Only a total scum from the basest of lowlifes would do a thing like that.

Because you are a brainless fool with no ability then to insult others, does not mean the rest of us wish to frolic in your cesspool of hate and bigotry..

Rather then Poppa or Td go away look in the mirror, you are the lice carrier on opp, you are the one who should seek refuge in some 3 world pit of a nation..
AO, br br Having a bad day? You are even more ... (show quote)


If you lose control and realize it before you send your post, as you have done here, you can backspace all the bad words out and no one would know.

You did not do that and instead went ahead and posted anyway.

Obviously you intended to do so.

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Aug 17, 2016 23:01:53   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
permafrost wrote:
AO,

Having a bad day? You are even more of a stupid asshole then usual..

And you have a negative effect on some of us... See, you prick, you made me lose it and call you names. Only a total scum from the basest of lowlifes would do a thing like that.

Because you are a brainless fool with no ability then to insult others, does not mean the rest of us wish to frolic in your cesspool of hate and bigotry..

Rather then Poppa or Td go away look in the mirror, you are the lice carrier on opp, you are the one who should seek refuge in some 3 world pit of a nation..
AO, br br Having a bad day? You are even more ... (show quote)


Why would he need to seek a 3rd world nation?

Given enough.time, liberals will have brought America down to that status.

Then we can all enjoy the fruits of liberal labor together as one happy and equally deprived big family.

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Aug 17, 2016 23:03:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Docadhoc wrote:
If you lose control and realize it before you send your post, as you have done here, you can backspace all the bad words out and no one would know.

You did not do that and instead went ahead and posted anyway.

Obviously you intended to do so.




Nuts,

Doc, I should squirm and complain, but you are more right then wrong.. I fully intended to do so, then thought I should not and then said to heck with it and sent the nasty post..

Now I am back to wishing I had not.. Makes me the poorer for the exchange..

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Aug 17, 2016 23:10:08   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Why would he need to seek a 3rd world nation?

Given enough.time, liberals will have brought America down to that status.

Then we can all enjoy the fruits of liberal labor together as one happy and equally deprived big family.




Doc,

I so do not agree with your vision of Americas future.. Or even the role liberals are playing.. Liberals are the engine which has always driven our nation. From the of George and Thomas and the rest of the founders.

To the electronic/computer giants and the changing of the power structure.. to renewable s away from fossil fuel that is...

Without a liberal forward thinking group of movers and shakers we would never even have reached the Mississippi, let alone the Pacific..

The 3rd world country was simply an echo of someone else long ago post..

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Aug 17, 2016 23:11:25   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Mine has not gone up 6% in the last 2years I don't know who is sticking it to you but, being a middle class low information voter on the right I am sure someone is sticking it to you.

Now since the ACA average insurance cost have only gone up approximately 3%.

Now you actually think all those people on the ACA are deadbeats. My son has an incurable Kidney desease, my grandaugher has Rheumatoid Arthritis not one of them could get health Insurance at any cost due to pre existing conditions, now they both have Health Insurance they pay the full premium. Now answer me a question are they dead beats. The 28 million getting health Insurance under the ACA are they deadbeats.

Health Insurance cost prior to the ACA was increasing at a rate of 15% to 20% per year.
But now only about 3%.

So answer me a question since 2010 how much has your Health Insurance gone up is it 15%
Mine has not gone up 6% in the last 2years I don't... (show quote)


IF you have Obamacare, your premiums will rise drastically soon and you have no say so in the matter. The ACA premium increases are across the board and will vary from plan to plan, but the minimum raise is drastic. I told.you about this 4 months ago and you laughed. Let's see you laugh in a couple more months. Wait until you see your new deductable. We told you what would happen when the ACA was passed but you laughed. We read the entire bill. You didn't.

Keep laughing.

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Aug 17, 2016 23:13:10   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
lindajoy wrote:
Having to live it because of that POS, narracissts main goal of induction of Socialism, yessssssss bmac I know exactly what you are saying!!

Then you have the diots here who swear it's all good...No damn wonder our country is going to hell.. !!!!!


Eventually they will discover lies do not buy groceries.

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Aug 18, 2016 00:04:09   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Mine has not gone up 6% in the last 2years I don't know who is sticking it to you but, being a middle class low information voter on the right I am sure someone is sticking it to you.

Now since the ACA average insurance cost have only gone up approximately 3%.

Now you actually think all those people on the ACA are deadbeats. My son has an incurable Kidney desease, my grandaugher has Rheumatoid Arthritis not one of them could get health Insurance at any cost due to pre existing conditions, now they both have Health Insurance they pay the full premium. Now answer me a question are they dead beats. The 28 million getting health Insurance under the ACA are they deadbeats.

Health Insurance cost prior to the ACA was increasing at a rate of 15% to 20% per year.
But now only about 3%.

So answer me a question since 2010 how much has your Health Insurance gone up is it 15%
Mine has not gone up 6% in the last 2years I don't... (show quote)


Curious here TD, where do you get your info?

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Aug 18, 2016 00:06:41   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Doc, He's probably on Medicaid. He lies so much you can't take anything he says seriously. Loki busted him when he tried to say he is a veteran. He's got to make the other liberals on OPP squirm because he sounds so stupid.
Docadhoc wrote:
Curious here TD, where do you get your info?

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Aug 18, 2016 01:35:33   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Mine has not gone up 6% in the last 2years I don't know who is sticking it to you but, being a middle class low information voter on the right I am sure someone is sticking it to you.

Now since the ACA average insurance cost have only gone up approximately 3%.

Now you actually think all those people on the ACA are deadbeats. My son has an incurable Kidney desease, my grandaugher has Rheumatoid Arthritis not one of them could get health Insurance at any cost due to pre existing conditions, now they both have Health Insurance they pay the full premium. Now answer me a question are they dead beats. The 28 million getting health Insurance under the ACA are they deadbeats.

Health Insurance cost prior to the ACA was increasing at a rate of 15% to 20% per year.
But now only about 3%.
So answer me a question since 2010 how much has your Health Insurance gone up is it 15%
Mine has not gone up 6% in the last 2years I don't... (show quote)




I don't know where you get your figures but here is real figures for Florida Blue.
I'm on Medicare and my wife is on ACA.
2014 her monthly ACA was $ 877.00 monthly for 9 months (our combined income was over ACA limit)
2015 her monthly ACA was $438.00 for the Platinum Plan.
2016 the same plan jumped to $640.00 (45% increase) I dropped the plan back to the Gold Plan so the monthly payment was back to $440.00. Deductible jumped to about $5000.00 and hardly pays for anything! This is for health only, no optical or dental.
May, 2016- She started her SS at age 62 at apprx $750.00 monthly and ACA jumped to $571.00 monthly (29% increase).
Next year who knows!
If it increases much more next year, I'll drop ACA and pay the penalty. She is a Puerto Rican and can use her Spanish name and go in through the ER like the rest of the illegals!

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Aug 18, 2016 01:38:56   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
America Only wrote:
POPPA BEAR? what a fucking RETARD! Don't even bother interacting with some mentally defectives ass hole like that CLOWN POPPA BEAR! Fuck that and all the rest of the PUNK LIBERALS on this website...they can all just be shot and have the issue be dealt with!


Tell it like it is AO.

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Aug 18, 2016 02:08:32   #
S. Maturin
 
permafrost wrote:
Not at all..

Overall, he is one of the best in my opinion..

As an aside, a few months ago, someone pointed out that Hitler did a far better job of getting Germany out of a much worst depresion then the American one.. He did it by government spending on building a huge war machine.

So even Hitler may have had some good points..

With that line of thinking, Even FDR could have had some bad points...


"..even FDR.." I am shocked.

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