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Aug 12, 2016 01:37:26   #
Ricktloml
 
Nonsense. Trump wasn't even close to suggesting that Hillary be assassinated. He was simply reminding people that Americans who value their @nd Amendment rights will stand up for them-POLITICALLY, as they have always done. However during the Bush presidency there was an award winning movie about assassinating George W Bush, as well as a novella suggesting the same thing. At a campaign rally for Obama an image of Bush's head was in a basket after being decapitated by a giullotine. The collaborative media-always happy to push a false narrative about Trump, (or any Republican or conservative) excused these assassination suggestions-even discussed their "artistic" merits.

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Aug 12, 2016 01:42:31   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
PeterS wrote:
This is probably the first time that a presidential candidate has suggested that his followers assassinate the opposing candidate. And while I am not surprised that Trump said what he said what I would be surprised about if conservatives cared at all about what he said. It just goes to show how far they have slid down the hole. And they once thought they were morally superior. What a joke...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html




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Aug 12, 2016 01:51:16   #
Ricktloml
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Did Trump say "assassinate" Hillary? No. Did he say, "shoot her"? No. Did he say "kill her"? No.

"If she gets to pick . . . her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe, I don't know . . ."

The leftist spin machine is up a couple thousand revs with this one. Why? The left despises gun owners. Whenever a liberal hears the words "2nd amendment", somebody is either dead or gonna die. No two ways about it. You say, "2nd amendment" or "NRA", and hang on to your ass, the liberal brain automatically pulls up visions of mass shootings, blood flowing in rivers, and the end of the f*cking world.

No doubt that Trump's comment was ambiquous at best, but to assume he was suggesting assassination is asinine. Liberals have no sense of humor.

We need only go back to the GW Bush years. Not one person but millions were calling for the assassination of George W Bush, they wrote books about it, made movies about it, in effigy, they hung GW, they burned him, they decapitated him-"KILL BUSH" was a popular street protest sign. But, whoa, a Republican POTUS nominee says "2nd Amendment people", and in the blink of the liberal's jaundiced eye, 50 million gun owners are loading their machine guns, packing up their bazookas and mortars and heading for the next Hillary rally.

The question is not how far conservatives have slid down the hole, the question is will the liberals ever climb out of it.
Did Trump say "assassinate" Hillary? No.... (show quote)



Thank you. You gave much more detailed than I did. And it is the left that is constantly vilifying Trump that is more likely to cause one of their many, violent crazies to attack him

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Aug 12, 2016 02:15:31   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Thank you. You gave much more detailed than I did. And it is the left that is constantly vilifying Trump that is more likely to cause one of their many, violent crazies to attack him
I can't imagine the volume of hate speech toward Trump that is being "tweeted". There are even "Assassinate Donald Trump" facebook pages. (Facebook refuses to take it down) And, no doubt his security detail is fielding thousands of death threats.

But whoa! Don't you even think about posting a threat or anything hateful toward a democrat politician of any stripe. That is absolutely forbidden.

Liberals own hypocrisy. If there were no such thing, those fools would be impotent.

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Aug 12, 2016 08:12:41   #
YoOleMe Loc: Georgia ~ Alabama ~ Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
This is probably the first time that a presidential candidate has suggested that his followers assassinate the opposing candidate. And while I am not surprised that Trump said what he said what I would be surprised about if conservatives cared at all about what he said. It just goes to show how far they have slid down the hole. And they once thought they were morally superior. What a joke...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html


… now that you’ve dutifully jumped on the PollBot B/S EXPRESS in perpetrating THE MOST DESPICABLE LIE YET!!! … TRY a little FACTUAL TRUTH, for a change – in the unlikely event a modicum of salient intellect may still be present in your makeup!?!?

Initially, Breitbart News reported that Trump gave a speech in which he warned that “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment.” He added, “By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But — but I’ll tell you what. That will be a horrible day. If Hillary gets to put her judges — right now, we’re tied.”

… CONVENIENTLY, THESE ZIONIST MANIPULATED MSM BUSTARDS CLIPPED this FINAL phrase “… If Hillary gets to put her judges — right now, we’re tied.” FROM HIS STATEMENT, LEAVING A LARGE, OPEN-GAP VACUOUS OBJECTIVE AFTER THE SPECULATIVE “ Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But — but I’ll tell you what. That will be a horrible day.” PHRASE; DIABOLICALLY CREATING THIS TOTALLY BOGUS, SURREPTITIOUS PHYSICAL VIOLENCE THREAT SCENARIO, WITH WHICH ALL OF THESE SLEAZEBAGS (INCLUDING YOUR Apparatchik moment here!!!) HAVE SINCE BEEN RUNNING!!!!!!

[Trump] went on to re-emphasize how the unexpected loss of Antonin Scalia had left the court divided 4 to 4 on guns, and pointed out that the NRA had endorsed him because they knew he would involve them in the process of picking a nominee to replace Scalia.
Clinton’s [innate SLEAZEBAG] campaign manager Robby Mook seized on the first two lines of Trump’s statement and alleged Trump was suggesting “violence.” The [Clinton owned & operated] media followed suit almost immediately.

Salon ran a column titled, “Did Trump Just Threaten Hillary? ‘Second Amendment people’ ought to influence Clinton’s SCOTUS nominees.” The Guardian ran one titled, “Trump Hints At Assassination of Hillary Clinton by gun rights supporters” and Huffington Post ran one titled, “Elizabeth Warren Fires Back at ‘Pathetic Coward’ Donald Trump After Assassination Suggestion.”

CBS New York ran a title that was a little more nuanced, but insulting to Trump and gun owners nonetheless. It was titled, “Trump: Maybe ‘Second Amendment People’ Could Stop Clinton From Picking Judges.” CBS clearly missed the context of Trump’s statement. He was not talking about “Second Amendment people” stopping Clinton or harming Clinton. Rather, he was talking as James Madison did in Federalist 46, when Madison explained that the people are armed so they can defend themselves against an overreaching government. Such action is defensive, not offensive. And the context was that the government will be in full overreach mode if Clinton is elected and gets to fill the Supreme Court with liberals.
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… in case you just may ACTUALLY GIVE A SHYT ABOUT TODAY’S REALITY -- hopefully BEFORE THAT 11/8 "DOOR" SLAMS SHUT!?!?!?...

NOTWITHSTANDING COMPLETE MSM OBFUSCATION of THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BVSAEJbF00 … ARGUABLY, the MOST CRUCIALLY PERILOUS WORLD SITUATION SINCE JFK’S CUBAN MISSILE CRISES -- even for that SAME NEFARIOUS Synagogue of Satan PERPETUAL WAR, TILL their World Conquest accomplishment, REASON!!!! … OR:

… no matter HOW CONVENIENTLY THESE BUSTARDS CLIPPED “… If Hillary gets to put her judges — right now, we’re tied.” FROM THE FINAL PART OF HIS STATEMENT IN ORDER TO CREATE THIS TOTALLY BOGUS, SURREPTITIOUS PHYSICAL THREAT SCENARIO!!!!!! …

Our Holy God KNOWS, when We the People have CREATED THAT 11/8 Trump LANDSLIDE ADMINISTRATION HE SHALL HAVE vastly greater EVIDENCES FOR THE LAWFUL & LEGAL SHYT-CANNING OF THIS DIABOLICAL WHORE and her JIHADIST-IN-CHIEF MASTER, WITHOUT ELEVATING THEM TO SUCH “assassination” material RIDICULOUS SWILL!!!!! … Albeit, MAKE NO MISTAKE HERE:

THIS "ELECTION" IS OF VASTLY GREATER IMPORT THAN "The Presidency"!!!!!

KNOW YOUR ENEMY!!!! … Goto: https://www.politicalislam.com/ AND STUDY!!!!

Via this DIABOLICAL NEXUS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUlsTem7w0g … We are literally JUST 88 DAYS FROM the POTENTIAL OVERTHROW of these Natural (Common) law, duly Declared & Constituted united States of America, into the World’s largest Islamic SHARIA LAW IMPOSED Caliphate!!!! …

WHATEVER YOU THINK ABOUT merits OR demerits OF Donald J. Trump: …

HE IS THE SOLE SUBSTANTIVE COMMITMENT AGAINST THIS TREASON, AND THUS; OUR SOLE HOPE THESE united States of America SHALL EXIST BEYOND 11/9!!!! ...

HATE HIM, IF YOU WILL; BUT AGAINST THIS DIABOLICALLY EMINENT CALIPHATE: ELECT HIM, WE MUST!!! … THEN, AFTER 20 January, 2017; IMPEACH HIM, if you like -- BUT THE MAGNIFICENT DIFFERENCE IN SUCH AN CRUCIAL 11/8 VOTING-OUTCOME IS EPIC:

With a Trump White House, THERE SHALL STILL BE an united States of America, WITHIN WHICH "Impeachment" PROCEEDINGS’ SHALL BE POSSIBLE!!!!

INSTEAD OF THAT ALREADY INSTITUTED OBAMA~CLINTON SHARIA LAW CALIPHATE, WITHIN WHICH YOUR PERSONAL NON-MUSLIM STATUS - REGARDLESS OF PARTISAN AFFILIATION - SHALL BE AN UNMITIGATED BEHEADING, by SHARIA LAW!!!

May our Triune God correct this abject ignorance before it sends us SO DIRECTLY INTO THESE JAWS OF HELL!!!

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Aug 12, 2016 08:27:59   #
Gatsby
 
You'r correct, an other "dead horse".
This "issue" has made no detectable difference in poll results.




Smokie wrote:
I don't know .
I believe we have beaten this horse to death.
I'm ready to move on.

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Aug 12, 2016 11:49:44   #
YoOleMe Loc: Georgia ~ Alabama ~ Texas
 
Gatsby wrote:
You'r correct, an other "dead horse".
This "issue" has made no detectable difference in poll results.


... IF you give any attention and/or credence WHATSOEVER to ANY "Poll", OTHER THAN THAT OF 11/8 -- AND DEPENDING UPON DETAILS in re, IF & HOW THAT ONE MATERIALIZES, THEN: YOU'VE ABROGATED YOUR RIGHT and Sovereign DUTY TO THAT EXCLUSIVE RESPONSIBILITY within this, THE ONLY polygarchy Republic in the history of Mankind -- THE ABSOLUTE ELIMINATION OF WHICH IS THE NEFARIOUS OBJECT OF THIS MISCREANT EXERCISE!!!!!!

... MAKE NO MISTAKE: Those FAR MORE NUMEROUS THAN MSM HAS ALLOWED TO BE KNOWN of us who have FINANCED, voted for, and BY EVERY MEANS POSSIBLE promoted President Donald J. Trump COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT ANY "POLLS" -- OTHER THAN that on 11/8 !!!!

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Aug 12, 2016 13:08:58   #
Gatsby
 
I most certainly agree that individual polls are generally meaningless, and their results are highly unreliable; when the same polls are repeated weekly, over a period of time, certain trends in the results of the polls become clear, and need not be totally ignored.


YoOleMe wrote:
... IF you give any attention and/or credence WHATSOEVER to ANY "Poll", OTHER THAN THAT OF 11/8 -- AND DEPENDING UPON DETAILS in re, IF & HOW THAT ONE MATERIALIZES, THEN: YOU'VE ABROGATED YOUR RIGHT and Sovereign DUTY TO THAT EXCLUSIVE RESPONSIBILITY within this, THE ONLY polygarchy Republic in the history of Mankind -- THE ABSOLUTE ELIMINATION OF WHICH IS THE NEFARIOUS OBJECT OF THIS MISCREANT EXERCISE!!!!!!

... MAKE NO MISTAKE: Those FAR MORE NUMEROUS THAN MSM HAS ALLOWED TO BE KNOWN of us who have FINANCED, voted for, and BY EVERY MEANS POSSIBLE promoted President Donald J. Trump COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT ANY "POLLS" -- OTHER THAN that on 11/8 !!!!
... IF you give any attention and/or credence WHAT... (show quote)

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Aug 12, 2016 13:12:42   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Gatsby wrote:
I most certainly agree that individual polls are generally meaningless, and their results are highly unreliable; when the same polls are repeated weekly, over a period of time, certain trends in the results of the polls become clear, and need not be totally ignored.

Polls aren't meaningless, they aren't definitive either.

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Aug 12, 2016 15:17:32   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
The Second Amendment was passed to allow the people to rise up & overthrow thier government.


No, it is people like you who think they are better than the rest of us. It is your tolerance for this harridan who is your nominee that is the evidence for how far down the hole progressives have fallen. She is truly dangerous.







I think the 2nd Amendment is more to keep our government from rising-up and trying to nullify our 2nd Amendment, cl. And sure enough, "there they go again!!!" FAT CHANCE.
Even if (God forbid) "Barry," [in Hillary drag] is elected, our Constitution and Bill of Rights will be protected if the documents aren't "gone under, over or around," {Pelosi}, and if it's attempted there will be hell to pay. "WE" are "OBLIGATED" by our Founding instruments to allow no one to disarm "US," without all the proper Congressional ratification and the legal procedures necessary to alter or nullify ANY Amendment; ESPECIALLY now our 2nd Amendment. Again, FAT CHANCE. "WE" have seen far too many history books and stories of refugees {from primarily communist regimes} to be unaware of exactly what can happen when a bloated and diabolical "progressive" government disarms its civilian populous; and the hundreds of millions of lives [and counting] that have thus been forfeited; just AFTER the guns!!! Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!

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Aug 12, 2016 15:41:23   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
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No doubt, RETW. I love to go to the "demonrat" 2016 sites - I call him "Jihad boy, 2016," and he seems to LOVE that; but all the "red-diaper" babies seem to congregate around each other on OPP, {especially on anything spun on what "THE DONALD" may have said}!!! And it gets a little morose to wade through the anti-American, anti-Semitic, anti-conservative, anti-Judeo-Christian, anti-Republican rhetoric they cling to in this "progressive," "Marx/Alinskyite" anti-Trump mandate that the secular/radical liberal progressive daily morning talking points tries to shove down our throats. Interesting. It almost reminds me of the ole' chatter of the SDS, Weather Underground {OWS/BLM Sr.} when they were trying to overthrow the enemy {America} in the late '60's; and they were "rapidly crushed" {Saul Alinsky}. Well it seems to be happening again, and when Hillary endorsed BLM over the "PIGS," {SDS, WU lingo}, it won't be long now. What IS that crushing noise I keep hearing???!!!??? Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Perhaps I'll try to get in touch with "Jihad boy," to see if he's been crushed yet; and if so, if there's anything I can do to help. LOL. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!

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Aug 12, 2016 17:17:20   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
bggamers wrote:
he was talking about the peoples power with their vote. get real!!!



No...no, he wasn't.
He was dialing into the wish fulfillment of the the right wing, as expressed repeatedly in the pages of OPP. Dead Hillary and President Obama are repeated themes in these pages, and Mr. Trump knows his audience. If he were talking about voting, he would have said 'the 15th, 19th, (or 23,24,25th) amendment people'. Those are the voting amendments. If he did not know what he was saying, it shows the Republicans have allowed a lunatic to hijack their party.

It's time for voters to 'get real' and recognize the Republican are running an unstable narcissist for President, and time for his backers to recognize that Trump means what he says. 'The second amendment people'....code for political violence if he loses.

http://ourconstitutionalrights.com/rights-pages/vote.html

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Aug 12, 2016 17:48:12   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
lindajoy wrote:
Exactly what he "implied" Stand against her attempt to take the second amendment away..."Maybe you guys can do something", is not kill hillary...Some report it it as a joke in context. But not the left...







Nope, LJ, the "lefty's" are in grandma's basement recording every word that Mr. Trump says, with the main, A-1 incentive, is "VIOLENCE." The secular/radical liberal progressive daily morning talking points are concentrating on violence, and there must be some kind of reward for coming-up with the most realistic "spin" for anytime Mr. Trump mentions the NRA or the 2nd Amendment. I'm beginning to wonder if the modern day Prophet that claims Mr. Trump was put where he is by God, and the invulnerability that "THE DONALD" has shown so far by the 24/7/365, "Marxstream" media, and the current administration's attacks, would surely have taken a lesser man down in the first week of the campaign. And Mr. Trump was recently compared with Ronald Reagan, but I think there is some combination of Gen. George Washington's invulnerability also. "WE" must look at all the fire that was always directed at his heart. General Washington, after the Revolutionary War {the story goes}, was asked by his loyal Patriot army to "please be King of America." General Washington said that "there should never be a King of America," as was true of Great Britain; and "must I do more for my country?" Neither Gen. George nor Mr. Trump needed to get down into the mud of politics, but did so JUST for their country in dangerous turmoil. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!

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Aug 12, 2016 17:51:25   #
Progressive One
 
robmull wrote:
No doubt, RETW. I love to go to the "demonrat" 2016 sites - I call him "Jihad boy, 2016," and he seems to LOVE that; but all the "red-diaper" babies seem to congregate around each other on OPP, {especially on anything spun on what "THE DONALD" may have said}!!! And it gets a little morose to wade through the anti-American, anti-Semitic, anti-conservative, anti-Judeo-Christian, anti-Republican rhetoric they cling to in this "progressive," "Marx/Alinskyite" anti-Trump mandate that the secular/radical liberal progressive daily morning talking points tries to shove down our throats. Interesting. It almost reminds me of the ole' chatter of the SDS, Weather Underground {OWS/BLM Sr.} when they were trying to overthrow the enemy {America} in the late '60's; and they were "rapidly crushed" {Saul Alinsky}. Well it seems to be happening again, and when Hillary endorsed BLM over the "PIGS," {SDS, WU lingo}, it won't be long now. What IS that crushing noise I keep hearing???!!!??? Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Perhaps I'll try to get in touch with "Jihad boy," to see if he's been crushed yet; and if so, if there's anything I can do to help. LOL. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!
No doubt, RETW. I love to go to the "demonra... (show quote)


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Aug 12, 2016 17:52:48   #
Ike Loc: Minnesota Iron Range
 
YoOleMe wrote:
Initially, Breitbart News reported that Trump gave a speech in which he warned that “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment.” He added, “By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But — but I’ll tell you what. That will be a horrible day. If Hillary gets to put her judges — right now, we’re tied.”

… CONVENIENTLY, THESE ZIONIST MANIPULATED MSM BUSTARDS CLIPPED this FINAL phrase “… If Hillary gets to put her judges — right now, we’re tied.” FROM HIS STATEMENT, LEAVING A LARGE, OPEN-GAP VACUOUS OBJECTIVE AFTER THE SPECULATIVE “ Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But — but I’ll tell you what. That will be a horrible day.” PHRASE; DIABOLICALLY CREATING THIS TOTALLY BOGUS, SURREPTITIOUS PHYSICAL VIOLENCE THREAT SCENARIO, WITH WHICH ALL OF THESE SLEAZEBAGS (INCLUDING YOUR Apparatchik moment here!!!) HAVE SINCE BEEN RUNNING!!!!!!

CBS New York ran a title that was a little more nuanced, but insulting to Trump and gun owners nonetheless. It was titled, “Trump: Maybe ‘Second Amendment People’ Could Stop Clinton From Picking Judges.” CBS clearly missed the context of Trump’s statement. He was not talking about “Second Amendment people” stopping Clinton or harming Clinton. Rather, he was talking as James Madison did in Federalist 46, when Madison explained that the people are armed so they can defend themselves against an overreaching government. Such action is defensive, not offensive. And the context was that the government will be in full overreach mode if Clinton is elected and gets to fill the Supreme Court with liberals.
Initially, Breitbart News reported that Trump gave... (show quote)


Two things: first, like Breitbart, I heard the sentence end with "horrible day" and a new sentence begin with "If Hillary gets to put her judges . . ."

Second: I don't see how a "defensive" assassination is different from an "offensive" one, except that the assassin feels justified in what he or she is doing.

Oh, one more thing, I don't think Trump seriously wants to see Hillary or a liberal Supreme Court justice killed, anymore than he seriously believes Obama wasn't born in the US or that he seriously believes Ted Cruz's father was an accomplice in JFK's assassination. But it troubles me that he doesn't see anything wrong with bringing them up, apparently not realizing that there are people who will feel justified in acting on his words.

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