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Dec 18, 2013 21:07:29   #
Weyner
 
BigMike wrote:
Compromise or not, the Constitution and the fiduciary well-being of the US is under assault from people who want to change this nation from a Representative Republic to socialism, and in time to a world government. Anyone who would trade their personal sovereignty for goodies from the government does not deserve to be here, and they'll find out that what they thought was security will turn out to be slavery. We are going to fight the progressive movement. That's just all there is to it.


I agree with the idea of fighting this socialist bunch of scumbags, they are doing too much damage to our country and the American people,time to get rolling!!!

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Dec 18, 2013 21:42:11   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Art wrote:
Logical reasoning can seem almost like magic to the uninitiated, but really I don’t read minds. You should try it sometime. It’s not perfect, but it is a great bullsh*t detector.


you mean like if I think obozo is a bad president then I must be racist is a sample of your logical thinking?

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Dec 19, 2013 16:14:16   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Weyner wrote:
I agree with the idea of fighting this socialist bunch of scumbags, they are doing too much damage to our country and the American people,time to get rolling!!!


At this point, unless we are willing to lose a few elections, and toss a few of these weasels out on their cans, I doubt that the Republicans have the moral fiber or political stomach to do much more than go with the status quo. Oh, they'll make promises and talk a good talk at election time and then go right back to the same old shit. They'll stage mock battles with the Democrats to make the gullible think they're actually DIFFERENT. They'll talk about tax reform and tort reform. They'll help create phoney crises to divert attention from the things that really matter (Syria was such a diversion). They'll conduct "investigations" that are predetermined to find NOTHING. They bank on the people who vote automatically for the person with the R after their name. The socialistS have been setting the stage for an upstart like Obama for a long, long time. He's a puppet; nothing more. Rewriting history, getting their claws in the educational system, using government programs and the power of the Fed to get America hooked on government subsidies. We have been asleep at the wheel for way to long for this to be easy to change. Too busy living our lives I guess. Change will have to begin at the local and state levels, as Colorado and South Carolina have demonstrated. Taking anything up with Washington is like talking to the wall! Change WILL require civil disobedience and some of us will have to undergo some persecution. That's my take anyway.

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Dec 19, 2013 20:12:19   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
BigMike wrote:
At this point, unless we are willing to lose a few elections, and toss a few of these weasels out on their cans, I doubt that the Republicans have the moral fiber or political stomach to do much more than go with the status quo. Oh, they'll make promises and talk a good talk at election time and then go right back to the same old shit. They'll stage mock battles with the Democrats to make the gullible think they're actually DIFFERENT. They'll talk about tax reform and tort reform. They'll help create phoney crises to divert attention from the things that really matter (Syria was such a diversion). They'll conduct "investigations" that are predetermined to find NOTHING. They bank on the people who vote automatically for the person with the R after their name. The socialistS have been setting the stage for an upstart like Obama for a long, long time. He's a puppet; nothing more. Rewriting history, getting their claws in the educational system, using government programs and the power of the Fed to get America hooked on government subsidies. We have been asleep at the wheel for way to long for this to be easy to change. Too busy living our lives I guess. Change will have to begin at the local and state levels, as Colorado and South Carolina have demonstrated. Taking anything up with Washington is like talking to the wall! Change WILL require civil disobedience and some of us will have to undergo some persecution. That's my take anyway.
At this point, unless we are willing to lose a few... (show quote)

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What we need is a clean slate. New people all around. New politicians and new bureaucrats. No lawyers. No judges. Only real people with real lives and real problems to solve. That and ONLY that will do the job. But vigilance is the word that should be on the tip of every voter's mind!

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Dec 19, 2013 20:49:04   #
Liberty Tree
 
BigMike wrote:
At this point, unless we are willing to lose a few elections, and toss a few of these weasels out on their cans, I doubt that the Republicans have the moral fiber or political stomach to do much more than go with the status quo. Oh, they'll make promises and talk a good talk at election time and then go right back to the same old shit. They'll stage mock battles with the Democrats to make the gullible think they're actually DIFFERENT. They'll talk about tax reform and tort reform. They'll help create phoney crises to divert attention from the things that really matter (Syria was such a diversion). They'll conduct "investigations" that are predetermined to find NOTHING. They bank on the people who vote automatically for the person with the R after their name. The socialistS have been setting the stage for an upstart like Obama for a long, long time. He's a puppet; nothing more. Rewriting history, getting their claws in the educational system, using government programs and the power of the Fed to get America hooked on government subsidies. We have been asleep at the wheel for way to long for this to be easy to change. Too busy living our lives I guess. Change will have to begin at the local and state levels, as Colorado and South Carolina have demonstrated. Taking anything up with Washington is like talking to the wall! Change WILL require civil disobedience and some of us will have to undergo some persecution. That's my take anyway.
At this point, unless we are willing to lose a few... (show quote)


If the current GOP Congresspeople are going to cave into the Dems all the time it will not do any good to vote for a GOP majority in the Senate unless McConnell goes as the GOP leader and unless the is a new leader with a backbone. Boehner needs to go as Speaker of the House.

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Dec 19, 2013 21:06:29   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
If the current GOP Congresspeople are going to cave into the Dems all the time it will not do any good to vote for a GOP majority in the Senate unless McConnell goes as the GOP leader and unless the is a new leader with a backbone. Boehner needs to go as Speaker of the House.

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We need a fresh start - no one left in Congress who has been there over 8 years!

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Dec 19, 2013 21:25:32   #
Weyner
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
If the current GOP Congresspeople are going to cave into the Dems all the time it will not do any good to vote for a GOP majority in the Senate unless McConnell goes as the GOP leader and unless the is a new leader with a backbone. Boehner needs to go as Speaker of the House.


I have said before we have to clean the house from top to bottom,take out all the trash in the garage and fumigate the
place for Rats and Cockroaches,then get new people to live in our HOUSE for One Term Only! They have to live by our CONSTITUTION!
of AMERICA no other way!

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Dec 20, 2013 07:05:15   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Weyner wrote:
I have said before we have to clean the house from top to bottom,take out all the trash in the garage and fumigate the
place for Rats and Cockroaches,then get new people to live in our HOUSE for One Term Only! They have to live by our CONSTITUTION!
of AMERICA no other way!

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I wholeheartedly agree that is needed. What poses the biggest impediment is that approximately half the voters don't know what Congress does or is supposed to do, don't know anything about how government works, don't know anything about who they are voting for - or why. Self-imposed ignorance is a huge snake in the grass...and almost impossible to overcome - and we need change NOW, not 20 years from now.

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Dec 20, 2013 14:49:54   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
If the current GOP Congresspeople are going to cave into the Dems all the time it will not do any good to vote for a GOP majority in the Senate unless McConnell goes as the GOP leader and unless the is a new leader with a backbone. Boehner needs to go as Speaker of the House.


Sadly true. :cry:

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Dec 20, 2013 14:51:28   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Tasine wrote:
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I wholeheartedly agree that is needed. What poses the biggest impediment is that approximately half the voters don't know what Congress does or is supposed to do, don't know anything about how government works, don't know anything about who they are voting for - or why. Self-imposed ignorance is a huge snake in the grass...and almost impossible to overcome - and we need change NOW, not 20 years from now.


Change NOW will only be accomplished with bloodshed. I don't think we've quite come to that.

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Dec 20, 2013 20:58:23   #
Weyner
 
BigMike wrote:
Change NOW will only be accomplished with bloodshed. I don't think we've quite come to that.


We are very close and it maybe the only way!!

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Dec 20, 2013 23:43:04   #
Blue Flu Loc: HHI
 
Tasine wrote:
Some of us have been wondering that for quite some time now, have written about the possibility. Amazingly it seems that now 1-2 people in Congress are wondering the same thing. Sharp people, Congress.

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"Specifically, Rep. Trey Gowdy from South Carolina has now publicly raised fears that Obama could go ahead and suspend election laws in order to maintain control of the presidency. Gowdy says that since Obama has already decided to overturn the standing law on illegal immigrants, effectively declaring that the law no longer applies to them without any congressional backing, then what is to stop him from failing to enforce election laws?"

http://conservativebyte.com/2013/12/congress-fears-control-obama-suspend-election-laws/
Some of us have been wondering that for quite some... (show quote)


If Omaha's poll numbers were close to a 50% approval rating near the end of his present term I think he'd try to extend his reign. The good news is that his numbers are on the skids. There is at least one other possibility for him to try in order to stay in power but he needs a crisis. The economy is bound to crash soon and it ain't gonna be pretty. The unrest might make the riots of the late 60's (when cities where on fire across the Nation) look like a Sunday picnic.
Obama, like a true communist, has continuously sown the seeds of class warfare against the wealthy by pointing out the disparity between the haves and have nots. When chaos comes it will likely come with hunger. Hungry people
are capable of any number of unmentionable atrocities.
The rest is easy. Mr. Obama makes just 2 moves. First, he orders the military not to intervene. Second, he goes to the Congress and says that he alone can quell the unrest but he'll need powers that aren't remotely constitutional.
Sound too far fetched? Look at current events that might be laying the groundwork. The recent removal of 190 high ranking military officers.The press only identified about a dozen....draw your own conclusions about that. The idea that Obama will sign an executive order that will legalize 12-20 million illegals. Would he think of them as allies that
can be mobilized along with his power base? For instance, if I go down you'll be deported so fight for the freedom I have given you. One more thing. Obama will have single handedly doubled the national debt by the end of his present term. The Fed alone is keeping the economic engine running by pumping 85 billion dollars per month into the system. What has Obama done about solving this crisis? At present, he is planning yet another costly vacation that the Nation can ill afford. If he's deliberately trying to wreck what's left of our economy the crisis mentioned above will likely strike before his term is up.

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Dec 20, 2013 23:54:21   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Blue Flu wrote:
If Omaha's poll numbers were close to a 50% approval rating near the end of his present term I think he'd try to extend his reign. The good news is that his numbers are on the skids. There is at least one other possibility for him to try in order to stay in power but he needs a crisis. The economy is bound to crash soon and it ain't gonna be pretty. The unrest might make the riots of the late 60's (when cities where on fire across the Nation) look like a Sunday picnic.
Obama, like a true communist, has continuously sown the seeds of class warfare against the wealthy by pointing out the disparity between the haves and have nots. When chaos comes it will likely come with hunger. Hungry people
are capable of any number of unmentionable atrocities.
The rest is easy. Mr. Obama makes just 2 moves. First, he orders the military not to intervene. Second, he goes to the Congress and says that he alone can quell the unrest but he'll need powers that aren't remotely constitutional.
Sound too far fetched? Look at current events that might be laying the groundwork. The recent removal of 190 high ranking military officers.The press only identified about a dozen....draw your own conclusions about that. The idea that Obama will sign an executive order that will legalize 12-20 million illegals. Would he think of them as allies that
can be mobilized along with his power base? For instance, if I go down you'll be deported so fight for the freedom I have given you. One more thing. Obama will have single handedly doubled the national debt by the end of his present term. The Fed alone is keeping the economic engine running by pumping 85 billion dollars per month into the system. What has Obama done about solving this crisis? At present, he is planning yet another costly vacation that the Nation can ill afford. If he's deliberately trying to wreck what's left of our economy the crisis mentioned above will likely strike before his term is up.
If Omaha's poll numbers were close to a 50% approv... (show quote)


as soon as he gets ready to declare martial law he will tell the FED to stop propping up the market and it will collapse

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Dec 21, 2013 08:14:30   #
Liberty Tree
 
alex wrote:
as soon as he gets ready to declare martial law he will tell the FED to stop propping up the market and it will collapse


Alex, it is just like the secret truth that he wants Obamacare to fail and to drive private insurance companies out of the market so he can seize federal control of all of health care through a phony single payer system.

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Dec 21, 2013 08:43:25   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Alex, it is just like the secret truth that he wants Obamacare to fail and to drive private insurance companies out of the market so he can seize federal control of all of health care through a phony single payer system.

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Yep, EVERYTHING Obama does hints at total destruction of America. There is NO DOUBT in my mind that he hates us and that is attributable to his upbringing - he had NONE of the "America, MY country", "God Bless America".....remember his "pastor" of 20 years preached "God damn America". Remember all his mentors were terrorists, communists, rebellious slobs. And I think that is how he managed to become President - his views fit right in with George Soros, and Soros is really putting out the money for this Administration - hope it breaks him!

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