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Dec 19, 2013 01:12:58   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
The Obama administration is the most despicable, disgraceful government entity ever in American history. This administration's treatment of our military is unconscionable. Ignoring for the moment all the other abhorrent acts by this administration, in cutting the benefits for disabled veterans, all congressional democrats and a significant number of republicans have shown us their black hearts. And, this egregious conduct has not gone unnoticed. Not to mention the extremely low approval rating (9%), the overall approval of the federal government too is reaching historical lows. A long term and on-going Pew Research Study shows a rapid decline in favorability ratings of the Obama administration, including distrust, and threat to freedom.

In the jaundiced eyes of the black hearts in Washington DC, the men and women who sacrificed their legs, feet, arms, hands, eyes, faces, organs, and genitals; who were shot, blasted and burned, are just trash destined for the dumpster. And, that brings us to a precedent unlike any betrayal in our history.

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Left to Die in Benghazi
By Bill Schanefelt and Gary Crowder

The assault on the Temporary Diplomatic Mission Facility in Benghazi (Often still erroneously referred to as a "Consulate") and its associated Annex on 9/11/12 brought much reporting centered on the general lack of security prior to the event and on the failure of the military to respond after the assaults began.

Of late, those two issues have come into much sharper focus by new revelations in testimony during hearings at the House Intelligence Committee (Written about on these pages here and here.)

For example, in a report on those hearings, Fox News correspondent Catherine Herridge told Megyn Kelly that a notice was posted at the Annex to be on alert on 9/11/12 and that the agents were told a year before the event that, should the Annex be assaulted, the agents would be "on their own."

To our knowledge, and by all accounts that we have read, no element of the military was put on standby immediately prior to or on 9/11/12.

Revelations about the lack of adequate or any forceful reaction to the event are yet more stunning.

Thanks to Mr.Pinko at IOwnTheWorld, we can hear (At 1:45) Rep. Trey Gowdy, (R-SC) ask why no military response was ordered when "they didn't know when it was going to end."

This fact is of extreme importance, and we encourage readers to keep it in mind, for new reports are coming out daily.

Furthermore, as frequent AT contributor, Ed Timperlake, writes elsewhere:

At Benghazi, the U.S. lost the first set piece battle against Al-Qaeda. With no counter-attack, the enemy held its objective. This is a classic definition of a military defeat and one which will have dangerous consequences for the future.

Additionally, no one has been brought to account:

The refusal of the State Department to adequately defend American personnel in Benghazi was a shocking failure. The lies told after the attack by administration figures were appalling. So, too, is the unwillingness of Hillary Clinton to truly take responsibility for what happened. But the administration's seeming lack of interest in bringing those responsible to justice is a scandal of an altogether higher order.

One of the important critics of the lack of response is Committee Member Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) who told Fox News' Megyn Kelly earlier this month:

...the contractors' account raises questions as to why no one was sent to help the Benghazi compound that night when it was unclear whether the attack had ended. "What if they attack had gone on for another 24 hours?" he asked. "Would they have sent help then?"

Again, to our knowledge, and by all accounts that we have read, no element of the military was, in fact, launched in response to the assault.

Consider this: An officer on the bridge of a ship up-bound in a channel who observes a down-bound, right-of-way ship moving into the up-bound ship's side of the channel would immediately sound an alarm, order right-rudder, and shout "stand by for collision."

What, then, we ask, happened when Alec Henderson, the Regional Security Officer (RSO) in the Compound's Tactical Operations Center (TOC,) radioed that the Compound was under assault?

That is, we have always been informed that at 9:40 pm local time in Benghazi, no one, anywhere, knew that the Compound was about to be assaulted, but by 9:45 everyone, everywhere, knew everything there was to know at the time about the assault.

Our question is: What happened, everywhere, at 9:45?

We wrote recently on these pages that AFRICOM at one point ordered the Predator/Reaper remotely piloted aircraft (RPA) then flying over rebel camps near or in Derna at the very easternmost point in Libya, to divert to Benghazi.

But we do not know what alarm was sounded when the Duty Officer at AFRICOM first heard of the RSO's message from the TOC.

Nor do we know what order his Standard Operations Procedures (SOP) manual would require him to give.

Nor do we know what shout he gave out to various elements within AFRICOM.

Nor do we know what would have been the immediate reactions to such actions?

What would have been happening until someone ordered a halt?

We do not know what alarm was sounded when the Duty Officer at 352d Special Operations Group at RAF Mildenhall first heard of the RSO's broadcast from the TOC, nor do we know what order he might have given to the USAF aerial refueling tankers that are usually on alert there.

However, we know that those aerial assets could have been launched within minutes in response to an assault 3-4 hours away, and, if they could have been launched, what other assets could also have been launched?

C-130 Hercules transports are usually on alert at Ramstein AB in Germany, and all of the above questions apply to the Duty Officer at Ramstein and to the aircraft there. Those questions certainly apply to the Duty Officers at the various Combatant Command HQs, the Pentagon, Langley, Foggy Bottom, Aviano, Sigonella, Rota, and elsewhere.

Most importantly, those questions apply to the Duty Officer in the White House Situation Room.

What is key is that that dozens of Agency, governmental, and military personnel around the world would have been aware of the exact nature of the attack as it was occurring, yet, save for officers at the Annex and in Tripoli, they apparently did nothing!

Why?

Or, more importantly, were orders given and then rescinded? And (From sundance at Theconservativetreehouse.com,) if they were rescinded, by whom, when, and on whose authority were they rescinded:

Denis McDonough, Deputy National Security Advisor...update(d) the President and Vice President on the situation in the Middle East and North Africa....as National Security Advisor Tom Donilon and Chief of Staff Jack Lew watched....

Did someone, fearing a Blackhawk down situation, issue stand down orders? Doug Ross asks:

Perhaps House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa could subpoena Valerie Jarrett (et. al.) to determine what they knew about the night of September 11, 2012. That is, if it doesn't impact the 42 other investigations he's "working on".

We heartily agree with Mr. Ross!

We, of course, know that Mr. Obama's interest during that time was centered elsewhere.
b Left to Die in Benghazi /b br By Bill Schanefe... (show quote)

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Dec 19, 2013 01:40:25   #
Quizzal Loc: TN
 
If our government did not reduce vets benefits, how could they possibly pay for stupid/silly/public unwanted/not needed/rectless/not caring/without thought/unrightfulness/meaningless/childness/etc. items?
They do not care about the public at all.
It was announced today about giving 677 million to the airforce to purchase air planes that they do not want. So, the air force sends the air planes to a desert area to rot.
This was only one item that is listed among 100 other items our governement wastes money on.
But, think of our vets who fight for our right, the government has to reduce their benefits.
Someday (not the way they desire), they will pay for their mistakes. Things like what they are doing will not be forgotten. The government is currently worrying about their future jobs right now. They ought to for so much injustice that they are doing to the people today.

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Dec 19, 2013 05:42:28   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Benghazi Myth Annihilated on Fox and Friends (Video)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/12/benghazi-myth-annihilated-on-fox-and-friends-video/

Well done Fox News what a despicable way to honor fallen Americans!





Quizzal wrote:
If our government did not reduce vets benefits, how could they possibly pay for stupid/silly/public unwanted/not needed/rectless/not caring/without thought/unrightfulness/meaningless/childness/etc. items?
They do not care about the public at all.
It was announced today about giving 677 million to the airforce to purchase air planes that they do not want. So, the air force sends the air planes to a desert area to rot.
This was only one item that is listed among 100 other items our governement wastes money on.
But, think of our vets who fight for our right, the government has to reduce their benefits.
Someday (not the way they desire), they will pay for their mistakes. Things like what they are doing will not be forgotten. The government is currently worrying about their future jobs right now. They ought to for so much injustice that they are doing to the people today.
If our government did not reduce vets benefits, ho... (show quote)

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Dec 19, 2013 05:55:28   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Republicans Seek to Cut Benefits for Disabled Veterans

http://www.disabledveterans.org/2011/04/16/republicans-seek-to-cut-1-3-million-veterans/


Republican John Boehner and the House are looking to end VA health benefits for Disabled Veterans-that's for over 1.4 million veterans!



Blade_Runner wrote:
The Obama administration is the most despicable, disgraceful government entity ever in American history. This administration's treatment of our military is unconscionable. Ignoring for the moment all the other abhorrent acts by this administration, in cutting the benefits for disabled veterans, all congressional democrats and a significant number of republicans have shown us their black hearts. And, this egregious conduct has not gone unnoticed. Not to mention the extremely low approval rating (9%), the overall approval of the federal government too is reaching historical lows. A long term and on-going Pew Research Study shows a rapid decline in favorability ratings of the Obama administration, including distrust, and threat to freedom.

In the jaundiced eyes of the black hearts in Washington DC, the men and women who sacrificed their legs, feet, arms, hands, eyes, faces, organs, and genitals; who were shot, blasted and burned, are just trash destined for the dumpster. And, that brings us to a precedent unlike any betrayal in our history.
The Obama administration is the most despicable, d... (show quote)

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Dec 19, 2013 06:55:22   #
deb_bus Loc: fort worth and wichita falls tx, and houston
 
For the first time in my life, I fear for my freedom. I fear the goe government. I do not trust obama at all. He sends chills over me every time he speaks. His 'gift of gab' impresses me in no way but bad. He's a crook that is leading our nation into poverty. His motive is his gain. He sits in office doing whatever he wants. We the people need to get him out of office. I'm not sure how to do that, but there's got to be a way with all the crimes he has done. What can we do? How do we do it? I'm not politically minded enough to know the answer. But, I believe we are going to have to get tougher on him than we have so far. He's not even a u.s. citizen. Isn't that enough to get him out of office?

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Dec 19, 2013 07:58:02   #
Liberty Tree
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Obama administration is the most despicable, disgraceful government entity ever in American history. This administration's treatment of our military is unconscionable. Ignoring for the moment all the other abhorrent acts by this administration, in cutting the benefits for disabled veterans, all congressional democrats and a significant number of republicans have shown us their black hearts. And, this egregious conduct has not gone unnoticed. Not to mention the extremely low approval rating (9%), the overall approval of the federal government too is reaching historical lows. A long term and on-going Pew Research Study shows a rapid decline in favorability ratings of the Obama administration, including distrust, and threat to freedom.

In the jaundiced eyes of the black hearts in Washington DC, the men and women who sacrificed their legs, feet, arms, hands, eyes, faces, organs, and genitals; who were shot, blasted and burned, are just trash destined for the dumpster. And, that brings us to a precedent unlike any betrayal in our history.
The Obama administration is the most despicable, d... (show quote)


The lefists Democrats do not care about those who died in Benghazi. To them they are just sacrifices offered up to protect their lord god Obama.

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Dec 19, 2013 09:20:12   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Obama administration is the most despicable, disgraceful government entity ever in American history. This administration's treatment of our military is unconscionable. Ignoring for the moment all the other abhorrent acts by this administration, in cutting the benefits for disabled veterans, all congressional democrats and a significant number of republicans have shown us their black hearts. And, this egregious conduct has not gone unnoticed. Not to mention the extremely low approval rating (9%), the overall approval of the federal government too is reaching historical lows. A long term and on-going Pew Research Study shows a rapid decline in favorability ratings of the Obama administration, including distrust, and threat to freedom.

In the jaundiced eyes of the black hearts in Washington DC, the men and women who sacrificed their legs, feet, arms, hands, eyes, faces, organs, and genitals; who were shot, blasted and burned, are just trash destined for the dumpster. And, that brings us to a precedent unlike any betrayal in our history.
The Obama administration is the most despicable, d... (show quote)

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At the time of the Benghazi attack, the two American politicians who were involved and responsible for the action were Barack Obama, President, and Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State. Both of them despise the military and all that is good and wholesome. Because they despise the military, no value is placed on it by them, and their deaths lead to Hillary's "what difference does it make now?" comment. No doubt the families of the dead see the difference quite clearly, but , in my view, both Hillary and Barry are sociopaths and extremely self-centered without a moral bone in their bodies.

It is disgusting how little respect is shown to the only people who sacrifice their limbs, their very lives in the service of their country. Most real Americans have great respect for our military because real Americans have consciences. Hillary and Barry do NOT have consciences - if they DID, they couldn't carry on after the Benghazi affair. But they DO carry on, with loads of gall. Now the US Congress joins them, and places them beneath the need for huge bureaus and agencies who screw things up for Americans and businesses. They place them beneath the politicians' and bureaucrats' well-being. Congress is totally out of control, doesn't know what it is doing, needs help desperately and too proud to listen to good advice.

My best advice to Congress is this: [b]Stop the needless spending, take some pay cuts, downsize your staff, close all of the duplicate agencies and bureaus, stop paying the UN, stop paying other countries' expenses, stop handing out grants and loans to ANYONE, and TRY BEING A DECENT HUMAN BEING for a refreshing change.

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Dec 19, 2013 10:01:05   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
[quote=Tasine]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
At the time of the Benghazi attack, the two American politicians who were involved and responsible for the action were Barack Obama, President, and Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State. Both of them despise the military and all that is good and wholesome. Because they despise the military, no value is placed on it by them, and their deaths lead to Hillary's "what difference does it make now?" comment. No doubt the families of the dead see the difference quite clearly, but , in my view, both Hillary and Barry are sociopaths and extremely self-centered without a moral bone in their bodies.

It is disgusting how little respect is shown to the only people who sacrifice their limbs, their very lives in the service of their country. Most real Americans have great respect for our military because real Americans have consciences. Hillary and Barry do NOT have consciences - if they DID, they couldn't carry on after the Benghazi affair. But they DO carry on, with loads of gall. Now the US Congress joins them, and places them beneath the need for huge bureaus and agencies who screw things up for Americans and businesses. They place them beneath the politicians' and bureaucrats' well-being. Congress is totally out of control, doesn't know what it is doing, needs help desperately and too proud to listen to good advice.

My best advice to Congress is this: [b]Stop the needless spending, take some pay cuts, downsize your staff, close all of the duplicate agencies and bureaus, stop paying the UN, stop paying other countries' expenses, stop handing out grants and loans to ANYONE, and TRY BEING A DECENT HUMAN BEING for a refreshing change.[/quote]

To your last comment, I have suggested the same, over and over. Few want to hear it. For any of it to happen, both parties would have to come together and that is never going to happen. Witness the recent budget agreement, members of both parties claiming they've been sold out. As a consequence of trying to get SOMETHING done, the agreement is atrocious. Removing every single democrat and republican from office is the only way to "reset" our political process. Both sides can come up with good ideas but they will never agree to act on them.

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Dec 19, 2013 10:29:58   #
Mr Bill
 
It's not only that they cut our disabled/retired veterans pensions. Instead of cutting veterans pay, Sen. Jeff Sessions tried to close up a loophole in the tax-system that allows illegals to scam tax-payers out of 4.2 billion dollars a year! "Dirty Harry" Reid and the Democratic Senate shot it down though to protect what they think will be future Democratic voters, (illegals). It's a VERY sad day in America when elected officials care more for illegal-invaders than they do for the veterans that fought for us all!

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Dec 19, 2013 10:40:44   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Having trouble getting the brain working this morning? Web page dated Dec 12, think things might have changed a bit since that video appeared during the BASEBALL season.


Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Benghazi Myth Annihilated on Fox and Friends (Video)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/12/benghazi-myth-annihilated-on-fox-and-friends-video/

Well done Fox News what a despicable way to honor fallen Americans!

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Dec 19, 2013 11:34:05   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
The fact that there was a military response and Fox got trashed hasn't changed, moron!


bmac32 wrote:
Having trouble getting the brain working this morning? Web page dated Dec 12, think things might have changed a bit since that video appeared during the BASEBALL season.

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Dec 19, 2013 11:37:00   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I hear neither were trashed but think the liberal way.


Raylan Wolfe wrote:
The fact that there was a military response and Fox got trashed hasn't changed, moron!

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Dec 19, 2013 12:16:46   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Benghazi Myth Annihilated on Fox and Friends (Video)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/12/benghazi-myth-annihilated-on-fox-and-friends-video/

Well done Fox News what a despicable way to honor fallen Americans!
The article posted included at least a dozen links to sources (which in turn provide more links), and some of those links were to Fox. It is obvious, Wolfe, that you did not read the article, so all the extended information available was missed. Your only response is to find some outdated line in order to project. Sorry, but one link to one pissed off leftist's article doesn't cut it.

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Dec 19, 2013 12:19:32   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
No sense in being sorry, since your opinion is meaningless!


Blade_Runner wrote:
The article posted included at least a dozen links to sources (which in turn provide more links), and some of those links were to Fox. It is obvious, Wolfe, that you did not read the article, so all the extended information available was missed. Your only response is to find some outdated line in order to project. Sorry, but one link to Fox and Friends doesn't cut it.

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Dec 19, 2013 12:22:17   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
No sense in being sorry, since your opinion is meaningless!

Why, thank you, Wolfe, how arrogant of you.

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